Ridiculous. So how is this prevented? And to ask those saying, does this surprise you? Of course it's happening. This must be a calculated response in order to diminish the effect of what the article is saying. I see it all to often and its always at the top of these controversial posts.
I wonder if I can get back pay. I've been voting that way for years.
Seriously though, does anyone legitimately think the pro-Israel lobby is the only one doing this? There's a lot to be gained from shaping perception.
Wasn't it shown that Obama had like a million sock puppets following him on Twitter? You gotta know that George Soros, the NSA, Monsanto, Google self-driving cars, and the cult of Bernie Panders have the same scheme going.
The big difference is that people who oppose Jewish Supremacism don't have the money that Jewish outfits like George Soros, the NSA, Monsanto, Google self-driving cars, and the cult of Bernie Panders have.
I am shocked and appalled that when I clicked on the link NOTHING was EXPOSED. NO COW BELL for you!
Really nothing there, Nada, Nix Zipppppppp. Will some one please re infiltrate the posted link and correct it so we can then reticule the posted information in a more informed way. Thanks.
Thanks but my concern was for VOAT, itself, as a news aggregator/message board.
If you left every site that gets manipulated by some special interest group or activist you would find yourself hanging out alone on some backwater blog site with zero foot traffic.
/r/worldnews has been hasbara central for several years now.
I would also keep an eye on /v/worldnews here on Voat, I have seen anti-Israel stories getting labelled with "misleading" even when the story clearly states what is mentioned in the title.
Not trying to make this sound unimportant, but I've gotta know:
Does it actually surprise any of you guys that this type of thing might be going on? Not on any specific topic, but forum spies exist. They are super cheap compared to real would ad campaigns, and they have a MASSIVE captive audience. Think about it, the internet is a marketer's wet dream!
The real question you need to ask when looking for a "clean" forum: "Does this outlet have enough eyeballs to justify funding ads here?" Because that is the only question a private interest asks before doing so. Read up on the basics of business economics and marketing, and this stuff gets real obvious. The tactics don't change just because the medium is digital instead of tangible.
It doesn't take a genius to be a forum spy, which is why they're so obvious.
If I were a major private interest (say, big pharm for example), I would hire a PR/advertizing firm. From there, the PR firm would send a few agents out into cyberspace to gather foot-solders. That is (in theory) what we are seeing here, middle men (these are usually the smart ones, I'd imagine) payed in lump sums to sway opinion for a set about of time.
So to answer your question, my guess is they could simply hire any major PR firm, and that firm would have an internet-advertizing division with contract agents like I described.
I posted it, and it was removed. I posted it to Reddit too, and was shadowbanned for exposing it. You can not say or do anything that Israel don't like on any social media any more. They control all of them. Including some subverses here.
You can sign up here; https://archive.is/SlKYc
(but it may be down, that said they would remove it after getting enough pro-Israel shills.)
klongtoey ago
the online propaganda industry will soon dwarf the call-centre industry.
COUSCOUS ago
I love how there are at this time, 7 downvotes for this article. what is that? 2-3 shills and their alts?
TREDDITFIRST ago
REDDIT = JEWIT
zn_zb ago
Ridiculous. So how is this prevented? And to ask those saying, does this surprise you? Of course it's happening. This must be a calculated response in order to diminish the effect of what the article is saying. I see it all to often and its always at the top of these controversial posts.
GizaDog ago
That is an /r/ and not an /v/. Are we will complaining about that old site?
A_Scanner_Darkly ago
This is /v/conspiracy not /v/conspiraciesonvoat
Say_What ago
I wonder if I can get back pay. I've been voting that way for years.
Seriously though, does anyone legitimately think the pro-Israel lobby is the only one doing this? There's a lot to be gained from shaping perception.
Wasn't it shown that Obama had like a million sock puppets following him on Twitter? You gotta know that George Soros, the NSA, Monsanto, Google self-driving cars, and the cult of Bernie Panders have the same scheme going.
Charlie_Prime ago
The big difference is that people who oppose Jewish Supremacism don't have the money that Jewish outfits like George Soros, the NSA, Monsanto, Google self-driving cars, and the cult of Bernie Panders have.
normal_dude ago
I highly doubt the majority of forum users know this.
Bfwilley ago
I am shocked and appalled that when I clicked on the link NOTHING was EXPOSED. NO COW BELL for you! Really nothing there, Nada, Nix Zipppppppp. Will some one please re infiltrate the posted link and correct it so we can then reticule the posted information in a more informed way. Thanks.
novictim ago
Not at all surprised. How do we combat brigading shit like this? Algos?
Charlie_Prime ago
I combat it by leaving, not participating in any online forum where obvious manipulation is occurring.
Donating any time or energy to a shill site helps that site continue.
novictim ago
Thanks but my concern was for VOAT, itself, as a news aggregator/message board.
If you left every site that gets manipulated by some special interest group or activist you would find yourself hanging out alone on some backwater blog site with zero foot traffic.
RedHawk ago
Is anyone surprised by this?
/r/worldnews has been hasbara central for several years now.
I would also keep an eye on /v/worldnews here on Voat, I have seen anti-Israel stories getting labelled with "misleading" even when the story clearly states what is mentioned in the title.
Sciency ago
Not trying to make this sound unimportant, but I've gotta know:
Does it actually surprise any of you guys that this type of thing might be going on? Not on any specific topic, but forum spies exist. They are super cheap compared to real would ad campaigns, and they have a MASSIVE captive audience. Think about it, the internet is a marketer's wet dream!
The real question you need to ask when looking for a "clean" forum: "Does this outlet have enough eyeballs to justify funding ads here?" Because that is the only question a private interest asks before doing so. Read up on the basics of business economics and marketing, and this stuff gets real obvious. The tactics don't change just because the medium is digital instead of tangible.
Calvin ago
I have always been curious how a company finds another company that advertises manipulating social media.
Sciency ago
It doesn't take a genius to be a forum spy, which is why they're so obvious.
If I were a major private interest (say, big pharm for example), I would hire a PR/advertizing firm. From there, the PR firm would send a few agents out into cyberspace to gather foot-solders. That is (in theory) what we are seeing here, middle men (these are usually the smart ones, I'd imagine) payed in lump sums to sway opinion for a set about of time.
So to answer your question, my guess is they could simply hire any major PR firm, and that firm would have an internet-advertizing division with contract agents like I described.
shmegegy ago
wasn't this already posted here? and where do I sign up? I do it for free already
sturle ago
I posted it, and it was removed. I posted it to Reddit too, and was shadowbanned for exposing it. You can not say or do anything that Israel don't like on any social media any more. They control all of them. Including some subverses here.
You can sign up here; https://archive.is/SlKYc (but it may be down, that said they would remove it after getting enough pro-Israel shills.)
shmegegy ago
I checked it out. it's only $10 per day and only for upvoting/downvoting brigades. JTRIG seems more fun and interactive to me.
shmegegy ago
you can never have enough pro israel shills. look how many the nazis have!
COUSCOUS ago
Haven't the jews now killed and / or arrested all the Nazi's?
toobaditworks ago
I went ahead and took a screenshot: https://slimgur.com/image/0Rk
Vorontsov ago
I don't doubt you, but could you post a picture atleast of your shadowbanned account?