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stealthboy ago

In my humble opinion, "moderating" is becoming too much of a thing that is seen as important in itself. This is what caused the downfall on that other site. Mods are seeing their "job" as something with power and import. Does it really matter? There is an upvoat and downvoat button. That's what it's for - to let the user base decide what they want to see. Is something posted that is offensive, stupid, or off topic? Hit that down button and be on your way. If something that is inappropriate has many upvoats then obviously the community wants to see it. The mods need to stay out of the way.

This is all just my opinion on the matter. I appreciate that you're trying to do something, but I just don't thing that something needs to be done. Mods need to be unseen.

Mumberthrax ago

Alright, so we could have a completely anarchic subverse - just let the votes do what they do.

As someone with an interest in conspiracy theories and related things, I want to go someplace where conspiracy theories are discussed in an intelligent way, where my contributions (and others' quality contributions) are seen and not buried under mountains of junk from sorcha faal or alex jones fearmongering (not to say jones is always fearmongering, but it happens a lot). I don't think anyone would deny that there is a LOT of garbage that gets spread around - misinformation and disinformation, not to mention astroturfing and hasbara fucking up votes and the conversations with flaming and attacks.

To be clear, as a user I want to see three things in a conspiracy theory discussion community:

  1. Quality information organization. I want to see the dots connected in a rational and well-sourced way, or at least articulately argued, and i don't want this information to slide out of sight with the next wave of posts.

  2. High resilience against disruptive elements. Astroturfing, flaming/trolling in the comments, disinformation, black propaganda, spam; all of these are problems that /r/conspiracy suffers from. It's my contention that the moderators there are not interested in remedying them, or are uncertain how to do so, or are afraid to try anything to limit it.

  3. An active, engaged community. I want to see people who stick around and talk with each other, who are involved in running their own projects to help sort information and educate each other.

So how can I find these things? This subverse was pretty good before the influx of people from reddit since the FPH/AMAGeddon incidents. How will we prevent it from becoming /r/conspiracy?

nokilli ago

Admins need to give you the option of making upvoats cost a CCP to tackle that, and they're not going to do that because they're already thinking about...

4) Profit!

Mumberthrax ago

I don't understand. Could you elaborate on the connection between that feature and a motivation for profit?

nokilli ago

Well if what they're saying about reddit's machinations is correct then it's all about appeasing advertisers.

Will advertisers be as interested in voat if the site better allows its users the opportunity to moderate? That means more "speaking truth to power" stuff and less fluff.