I didn't know which subvoat to post this in. Even though you guys all believe the moon landings. Israel has launched their moon faring rover and the first thing it will do after it arrives on the moon in two months is plant an Israeli flag there. If it's not true that America landed man on the moon, the only flag up there will be Israel.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/israel/2019/february/the-israeli-flag-will-soon-fly-on-the-moon-israel-to-send-first-spacecraft-to-the-moon
All telemetry data recordings from all Apollo missions leaving low Earth orbit Apollo 8-17 are erased. That means there is no contemporary evidence we ever went there. There's no data to study. All we have are videos and pictures. The lunar orbiter takes photos so low resolution the landing sites look like pixels.
No telescope is currently powerful enough to photograph any lunar landing site. No rover was left on the moon from any Apollo mission, in fact none of the missions did anything. They brought back rocks, planted seismometers, and installed a thing that reflects lasers despite bouncing lasers off the moon being something they were doing before Apollo.
NASA finished the heat shield they need only two years ago. NASA is still building the rocket that is powerful enough to lift it. It is possible the moon landings were faked. If they were faked then Israel's will be the only flag up there. Because hubris took over the minds of Americans for 50 years, while we sent all of our money abroad.
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Native ago
It's fake, nobody can go to the moon. So don't worry. China didn't go there, Russia can't go there and Israel can't go there.
As for all those 'moon rocks' the majority have been lost and the ones that have been tested turned to either be trees or rocks originating from Earth.
oligarchsalamander ago
I'd suggest rovers and other unmanned delivery systems are real.
Native ago
Here's a question, I'd ask you, let's say before you got married you heard a rumor that your best friend banged your fiance and when you asked him if he did he answered
No worries, you trust him. Then on your wedding night you discover a video of him dogging your wife on her phone and now there is clear evidence he lied to you.
NASA clearly lied about the Moonlandings, the question you have to ask is why would you ever believe anything they have to say ever again? Why is NASA any different than your hypothetical best friend in my example?
oligarchsalamander ago
Because the reason for lying was to prevent a cold war from escalating into a hot war, and the people involved are all retired or dead now. The problem I have with the lie is it hasn't been untold yet and is hurting progress.
Native ago
You hit the nail on the head and that's exactly actually how I got into Flat Earth. If the Moon hoax was a psy-op for the Cold War all the astronoauts should be given medals because they did a great job keeping up moral. Here's the issue and the reason WHY the lie hasn't been revealed.
Russia has always maintained technological supremacy in space. Even to this day they have a monopoly in space. This isn't debatable. So WHY after 60 years have the Russians who have the best space technology in the world not gone to the moon?
As a small aside the American space shuttle and rocket launch is based off Soviet Union technology and rocketry.
The evidence, if you start looking into it, is because Russia simply CAN'T go to the moon. Why?
Operation Highjump is presented as the next curiosity. Why was the mission so secret and why was a massive military sent to Antarctica? Then why is the Antarctica treaty THE ONLY international treaty that regardless of the Cold War or political hostilities is always maintained? Why is nobody allowed to go there without military permission? Why have there never been any flights over the South Pole?
Operation Fishbowl is the next natural rabbit hole. Think logically, how insane is it that the Government of the US was blasting NUCLEAR bombs into our atmosphere, why?
All these little rabbit holes on themselves don't look like that big of a deal, however you add in other things like, why is there no picture of earth from space that isn't CGI? Which could easily shut up the Flat Earthers and you start realizing that perhaps the reason why Russia is silent and never called out America on it's Moon landings is because after WW2 the Governments finally had the technology to properly explore this earth and they realized that
We live in a fishbowl covered by a dome
We can't escape because there's a massive ice wall that surrounds us
And that we in fact live on a flat earth
UKD ago
If the earth is flat, shouldn't you be able to see the sun at all times? Why does the light only reach a small radius under the sun.
Native ago
The gif shows the flat earth model, the sun and moon are much much smaller and only 3k miles up Hence why as the rotation shows only part of the earth is lit up at a time. The yin/yam just shows part of the earth at sunset and sunrise
UKD ago
If a light is shining on a flat surface like a spotlight would, shouldn't it create a circle of light? Why does the light create that ying yang shape, and bend around the moon all the way to the other side of the earth? https://imgoat.com/uploads/57b505cfd3/200478.gif
Native ago
You mean like this?
As for the gif, there’s a bunch of them out there, most don’t have the yin/yang like that, I posted it cause I thought it was neat obviously the light probably doesn’t bend like that.
Depends on where the sun and moon are in the cycles, in the summer the Sun circles closer to the North Pole and that’s why you have 24/7 day light sometimes you see the moon in the day light and sometimes you don’t. The reason the sun “sets” is due to perspective not due to it going over any curve