And that is the problem. Little, very little is known about 5G, so why the all mighty rush to put it in place? According to what little is available in the media, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia have ceased buying the technology from China either from security or health concerns. IDK either, thus more information is needed.
I had originally made the mistake of assuming 5g was the same frequency of 5g routers which is relativity safe at 5ghz
5g is much more powerful at 80+GHz supposedly. The issue is us tech guys understand EM wavelengths from a technical perspective but not how those wavelengths affect humans medically.
5G networks have been active in several major US cities for nearly a decade already.
The reason you think this is sudden, is because the technology has already been tested, and it is now (finally) mature, and ready to go mainstream. The corporate, and foreign interests that oppose US 5G technology are ramping up the anti-5G propaganda, because the tech has been tested, and is just now ready for action.
Thanks for that info Norm. It is exactly what we need. As one of the Five Eyes, Australia would be one of the early adopters and worried about security. Here is a link to GSMA, the shady group that is promoting 5G with the UN, Bill Gates and many others: https://www.gsma.com The site is a designed to make it unclear just who is behind this new, unnecessary tech and what it is for? Can you figure it out? My 4G works just fine, but I am very worried about the cell antenna that is across the street from me and at the level of my apartment. I'd move but this place is paid for. I have experience with microwave tech and know that it is not safe.
Because you mentioned you have experience with microwave tech, I'll include a bit more technical detail than normal, but feel free to ask questions (at least ones that can be answered).
The GSMA is an industry association. It organises the big global mobile industry conferences, Mobile World Congress, and also runs some coordination programs (e.g. for compatability purposes) for its mobile carrier members. If you are looking for the standards themselves, they are developed by 3GPP.
The demand for 5G capabilities is coming from the mobile operators, who want it for 3 main reasons:
Lower cost per bit - mainly by allowing greater total bandwidth per base station plus some encoding efficiency
Ability to connect the Internet of Things
Access to new (higher frequency) spectrum for more bandwidth (and hence back to lower cost)
If you are fine with the "risks" of 4G, then you should be happy for 5G. 5G will introduce targetted beam forming, so base stations don't waste power all over the place increasing the noise floor, but insead target it to the specific device (even if moving). So if you are not using a phone, then you will be less affected by base station transmissions with 5G compared to 4G.
Regarding the base station you mention you can see across the street. First remember that the inverse square law is your friend. Except for stupid technicians who stand directly in front of an active base station antenna for several hours, phone users receive more radiation from their own phone than the surrounding base stations. In fact, having a base station nearby is good for you personally if you are on the same network as the base station, as it means your phone will be able to transmit at minimal power.
This leads into another reason why 5G will generally be safer than 4G. Those new spectrum bands that become available to use are all in the high frequency range, and have very little propogation through walls etc., and a lower effective useful transmission range. So, to use these new spectrum bands, mobile operators will need to put up more micro (or pico) cells. This reduces the required transmission power on the phones of customers using 5G on those spectrum bands. The main reason the mobile operators will deploy in the new spectrum bands is to increase the capacity per square foot/metre and lower overall cost per bit (i.e. they will be used in high demand areas).
BTW, Those who worry about mobile network technology in general should go find a radio quiet zone to live in - but please don't bring all your EMF polluting gadgets with you.
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Rajadog20 ago
Christ where are people getting this shit? Do you have wifi? Same wave frequency
jervybingly ago
And that is the problem. Little, very little is known about 5G, so why the all mighty rush to put it in place? According to what little is available in the media, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia have ceased buying the technology from China either from security or health concerns. IDK either, thus more information is needed.
Rajadog20 ago
I had originally made the mistake of assuming 5g was the same frequency of 5g routers which is relativity safe at 5ghz
5g is much more powerful at 80+GHz supposedly. The issue is us tech guys understand EM wavelengths from a technical perspective but not how those wavelengths affect humans medically.
VOALTRON ago
5G networks have been active in several major US cities for nearly a decade already.
The reason you think this is sudden, is because the technology has already been tested, and it is now (finally) mature, and ready to go mainstream. The corporate, and foreign interests that oppose US 5G technology are ramping up the anti-5G propaganda, because the tech has been tested, and is just now ready for action.
jervybingly ago
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Norm85 ago
Australia will be one of the early adoptors of 5G. The ban on government controlled suppliers (aka Huawei) is purely a security concern.
jervybingly ago
Thanks for that info Norm. It is exactly what we need. As one of the Five Eyes, Australia would be one of the early adopters and worried about security. Here is a link to GSMA, the shady group that is promoting 5G with the UN, Bill Gates and many others: https://www.gsma.com The site is a designed to make it unclear just who is behind this new, unnecessary tech and what it is for? Can you figure it out? My 4G works just fine, but I am very worried about the cell antenna that is across the street from me and at the level of my apartment. I'd move but this place is paid for. I have experience with microwave tech and know that it is not safe.
Norm85 ago
Because you mentioned you have experience with microwave tech, I'll include a bit more technical detail than normal, but feel free to ask questions (at least ones that can be answered).
The GSMA is an industry association. It organises the big global mobile industry conferences, Mobile World Congress, and also runs some coordination programs (e.g. for compatability purposes) for its mobile carrier members. If you are looking for the standards themselves, they are developed by 3GPP.
The demand for 5G capabilities is coming from the mobile operators, who want it for 3 main reasons:
Lower cost per bit - mainly by allowing greater total bandwidth per base station plus some encoding efficiency
Ability to connect the Internet of Things
Access to new (higher frequency) spectrum for more bandwidth (and hence back to lower cost)
If you are fine with the "risks" of 4G, then you should be happy for 5G. 5G will introduce targetted beam forming, so base stations don't waste power all over the place increasing the noise floor, but insead target it to the specific device (even if moving). So if you are not using a phone, then you will be less affected by base station transmissions with 5G compared to 4G.
Regarding the base station you mention you can see across the street. First remember that the inverse square law is your friend. Except for stupid technicians who stand directly in front of an active base station antenna for several hours, phone users receive more radiation from their own phone than the surrounding base stations. In fact, having a base station nearby is good for you personally if you are on the same network as the base station, as it means your phone will be able to transmit at minimal power.
This leads into another reason why 5G will generally be safer than 4G. Those new spectrum bands that become available to use are all in the high frequency range, and have very little propogation through walls etc., and a lower effective useful transmission range. So, to use these new spectrum bands, mobile operators will need to put up more micro (or pico) cells. This reduces the required transmission power on the phones of customers using 5G on those spectrum bands. The main reason the mobile operators will deploy in the new spectrum bands is to increase the capacity per square foot/metre and lower overall cost per bit (i.e. they will be used in high demand areas).
BTW, Those who worry about mobile network technology in general should go find a radio quiet zone to live in - but please don't bring all your EMF polluting gadgets with you.