The ear_th is fl_at (Conspiracy)

submitted ago by New_goat

They laugh about you when you tell them money is fake until they start researching the fed.

They laugh about you when you tell them 9/11 was an inside job until they start researching WTC7.

They laugh about you when you tell them the ear_th is fl_at until they start researching Er_ic Dub_ay or Wil_liam Ed_gell.

They laugh about you when you tell them the truth because they either didn't start research or are paid ki_ke sata_nic slaves.

Why do you laugh?

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FrozenFire74 ago

I've watched various videos on people trying to prove the Earth is flat, and none of the arguments hold up. Whats the best piece of evidence you have to refute the claim that the Earth is Round?

FrozenFire74 ago

The viewpoint claim can be argued against (not proven, unless you go up and see it all for yourself to know for a personal fact) when you factor in how far off the ground you are in proportion to the size of the planet. looking at this image here it can be argued that planes don't get far enough from the ground to have a discernible impact on the view of the horizon. Most planes have a cruising height around 35K to 40K feet, whereas the curvature of the planet supposedly becomes noticeably visible around 60K feet. If I ever get to that altitude and get to look down, I'll make sure to post a photo to prove if I'm right or wrong.

Do I know for a fact that the Earth isn't flat? No. I'm skeptical of just about everything I haven't seen with my own eyes. What I'm waiting for is irrefutable proof before I start claiming a planet wide conspiracy occurring.

jesus_is_lord ago

how do you know it's

around 60K ?

maybe it's around 120k?

FrozenFire74 ago

Look at page 4 on this paper which goes into the mathematical explanations of calculating the curvature of the horizon (Which would be the curve of an arc length). The curve that would occur on a spherical surface is calculable when multiple variables are factored in. If the measurements are accurate (that the radius is ≈ 3000 miles), then the curve of the Arc (in this paper, the symbol is S, or sagitta) is calculable by the equation S = R - (R^2-x^2)^(1/2). As for what is considered a discernible S amount is incredibly subjective (at what point do you see an Arc Curve on a circle? What is the Arc Length before you see a irrefutable curve in the line?).

It is also worth noting that the S value you get will be a non value of sorts, as it references to an Arc Length, which is derived from a degree and the radius. This also deals with Calculus and by proxy trigonometry, and I will openly state that proving Calculus to be accurate is above and beyond my levels of understanding in mathematics. I'd be happy to see a Professor in Mathematics step in at that point to discuss the concept.

jesus_is_lord ago

math and theories don't prove anything, show me something verifiable in the real world

FrozenFire74 ago

Then rent a shuttle and go up to space if you don't believe me. If the math can calculate the curve of a sphere, and if we act on the evidence that the Earth is a spherical object, then flying to a high enough altitude will support my claim.

jesus_is_lord ago

we already have photos that disprove your claims

FrozenFire74 ago

And I have photos from sattelites that disprove your claims.

jesus_is_lord ago

you dont have photos, you have cgis

FrozenFire74 ago

I have videos from rocket launches as well, and one from a guy dropping back down from the Stratosphere.

jesus_is_lord ago

which dont prove anything

FrozenFire74 ago

Neither does your image that claims there is no arc curve on the horizon. If images and mathematics can't be presented as evidence, then the only solution is to go up and see for ourselves, meaning this entire conversation is pointless.

jesus_is_lord ago

it proves something to me, so... you have provided zero proof of anything

FrozenFire74 ago

I provided plenty of proof, and you denied all of it. Math doesnt count, pictures don't count, videos don't count, Logic doesn't count. All this proves to me is that you want to believe the earth is flat, not that you want to believe the truth whatever it may be.

jesus_is_lord ago

it doesnt count because its either nonsense or cant be verified in the real world, you can believe what you want, its just not for me

FrozenFire74 ago

The irony of your username and that statement has made this whole thing worth it for me. Thank you for that.

jesus_is_lord ago

works for me,

God made the firmament