I hardly doubt those 20+ guys slaughtered on a beach was fake. Don't you people get it? Some douche 'debunks' and now guess what? ISIS can go on slaughtering anyone because the lobotomized masses think it's all fake. The 'fake video' crowd are morons.
to be honest, the recent high profile beheading videos are the ones that appear fake
i don't think anyone is arguing the authenticity of the recruitment videos
there are clear differences in the styles of the two types of videos we have seen
i don't claim to know why they would fake some and not others - just that there is a clear discrepancy in the beheading videos vs the recruitment videos
the recruitment videos are horrific and show full-on the violence against "normal people", but the beheading videos cut away, use questionable lighting, and have high profile victims
they have made other videos where they set the guy on fire or shoot the guy in the head with a shotgun - those have good production value, and are similar to the beheading videos in style, yet they show the violence...
the only reason i've heard as to why they would cut away is so that they could show the video on western media, yet they have never shown them - it's always the "reporter" describing the video because it's "too awful, so take my word for it"
personally, and i think many others agree, it looks like the high profile "beheadings" are staged, but the others are real
isis is a real group of real extremists, but the narrative being spun is a half-truth
why would the US media act as the biggest promoter of all these videos? what about this glossy ISIS magazine...does the USA/NSA really have no way to track down who produces that and stop it? or does the US government actually want it produced?
Same with the financial transactions and physical oil transactions supposedly used to fund ISIS. The US lets it happen and they obviously have the capability to stop it....to argue otherwise is to show ignorance of the surveillance state that has been set up.
if it was unclear, i actually do agree with you, for the most part
these people have a huge online presence - isn't that what nsa surveillance is supposedly using our taxpayer money to combat? how can they be the all-watching eye, yet somehow unable to track a terrorist organization with land and asset holdings the size of a country? this is similar to the snowden situation - whistleblowers are almost never given media coverage, yet every time snowden farts it's headline news...after all, a surveillance state does no good unless the people know they're being watched
as far as these videos go, some of them do seem legitimate, however these beheading videos look staged - almost like there is a real group of extremists making videos, but then the high profile beheadings are being staged in order to spin a particular narrative
oh ya... i realized we had a good bit of agreement. Hard to know exactly what is fake at all times with the ISIS promotion. There is no doubt that the promoters of US foreign policy need enemies and they are willing to promote a new enemy if they don't have enough obvious ones.
samtrovaum ago
I hardly doubt those 20+ guys slaughtered on a beach was fake. Don't you people get it? Some douche 'debunks' and now guess what? ISIS can go on slaughtering anyone because the lobotomized masses think it's all fake. The 'fake video' crowd are morons.
richard_m_lurkmoar ago
to be honest, the recent high profile beheading videos are the ones that appear fake
i don't think anyone is arguing the authenticity of the recruitment videos
there are clear differences in the styles of the two types of videos we have seen
i don't claim to know why they would fake some and not others - just that there is a clear discrepancy in the beheading videos vs the recruitment videos
the recruitment videos are horrific and show full-on the violence against "normal people", but the beheading videos cut away, use questionable lighting, and have high profile victims
they have made other videos where they set the guy on fire or shoot the guy in the head with a shotgun - those have good production value, and are similar to the beheading videos in style, yet they show the violence...
the only reason i've heard as to why they would cut away is so that they could show the video on western media, yet they have never shown them - it's always the "reporter" describing the video because it's "too awful, so take my word for it"
personally, and i think many others agree, it looks like the high profile "beheadings" are staged, but the others are real
isis is a real group of real extremists, but the narrative being spun is a half-truth
gabeh73 ago
why would the US media act as the biggest promoter of all these videos? what about this glossy ISIS magazine...does the USA/NSA really have no way to track down who produces that and stop it? or does the US government actually want it produced?
Same with the financial transactions and physical oil transactions supposedly used to fund ISIS. The US lets it happen and they obviously have the capability to stop it....to argue otherwise is to show ignorance of the surveillance state that has been set up.
richard_m_lurkmoar ago
if it was unclear, i actually do agree with you, for the most part
these people have a huge online presence - isn't that what nsa surveillance is supposedly using our taxpayer money to combat? how can they be the all-watching eye, yet somehow unable to track a terrorist organization with land and asset holdings the size of a country? this is similar to the snowden situation - whistleblowers are almost never given media coverage, yet every time snowden farts it's headline news...after all, a surveillance state does no good unless the people know they're being watched
as far as these videos go, some of them do seem legitimate, however these beheading videos look staged - almost like there is a real group of extremists making videos, but then the high profile beheadings are being staged in order to spin a particular narrative
gabeh73 ago
oh ya... i realized we had a good bit of agreement. Hard to know exactly what is fake at all times with the ISIS promotion. There is no doubt that the promoters of US foreign policy need enemies and they are willing to promote a new enemy if they don't have enough obvious ones.
gabeh73 ago
could have been real...still we know the US has funded the terrorist. The themes portrayed in the media and by our government are fake.
gabeh73 ago
people think this stuff is legit?
samtrovaum ago
The headless victims do.
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/isis-video-truckloads-men-lead-to-slaughter-execution/ [NSFL]
gabeh73 ago
Just because the illuminati is willing to kill people doesn't prove that ISIS isn't funded and supported by the illuminati.