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Sciency ago

This is where we really disagree. It's not that you shouldn't work to educate people or try and teach people it's just that you can't prevent what has to happen. Many people are going to have to die when the support structure they have been crutching on falls away from them. There is just no way around that. Never has been. Research human genetic bottlenecks. Our species has almost totally snuffed it a couple of times now.

I see your argument, and I can't dispute it. I've looked into genetic bottlenecks before, and while scary, I cant deny the theory seems airtight. I remember in the movie "wargames" from the 80's had a similar argument coming from the scientist towards the end. The only reason I mention that, is because I was certainly on your side of thinking in a vacuum, but having a family kind of changed that for me. I suppose one might blame human biology for that, and they probably wouldn't be wrong (hormonal changes and all).

I suppose it really comes down to the pessimist/optimist spectrum. I must say, it's a rare thing to meet someone that makes me look like the starry-eyed optimist in a conversation like this, and I mean that as a complement. You've honestly forced me to evaluate my morals vs my logic, which is a very rare thing for me. I can't say that I won't keep trying to avert metaphorical (and literal) Armageddon, but you've helped me identify why I do so in the first place, and I thank you for that.

As for gardening, It's one of my guilty pleasures. I'll be the first to admit I'm no master, but there is something amazing about the ability to facilitate life, even if you didn't create it. Most of all, I just like being able to eat ;) Are there any good farming/gardening subs on voat at the moment? Reddit had a few, but they were 95% questions and jokes.