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Sciency ago

I'd like to apologize for calling you heartless and brainless. I still don't think we quite see eye to eye with how we define certain words (like brainwashed), but I misjudged your intentions in saying what you initially commented. However advocating apathy (even unintentionally) is dangerous.

When you said:

It's more like they are the audience in the magic show who is amazed by the trick and they applaud. You on the other hand don't believe in magic and thus are looking for how the trick was accomplished. The people in the audience aren't brainwashed. They are simply entertained and satisfied.

I think you hit the nail on the head with this. You lost me again with:

We have plenty of free time to be entertained. We are mostly assured of our roofs and suppers.

On this, could not disagree more. Never in history has there been such a high quality of life, but at such great expense to the average person. One might argue this is a symptom of bureaucracy, others would argue it's a problem of leaders not doing their jobs well, and I think both those lines of thinking have merit. However, no mater the cause, the functional effect is present. I would simply like to be part of the first generation I've ever personally seen actually care (about these things).

I rather enjoyed you anecdote about the camping trip gone wrong. People certainly gain back perspective quickly when faced with adversity. This question is mostly rhetorical, but here's my main driving point: What if no one in your group knew how to survive? Well, in this example, you might have died. Without a baseline level of survival training, some people will no be able to revert away from their habits, and the will (metaphorically, and maybe literally) die. If I can help to prevent such an eventuality, shouldn't I work to do so? Or (in line with the metaphor) what if we taught everyone how to fish/forage (think critically) as young adults so there is no risk of death (brainwashing/disinfo) when they actually have to survive in the woods(world) without food (truth).