You just made the irrational conclusion that one must be high to believe the earth is flat. We are at the 10% threshold of people who believe the earth is flat and it's climbing in the USA rapidly. It's not all drug users. You dismiss the truth because you prefer your illusion. Live a lie at your peril. If you can refute anything I've said try. Just try. You are to afraid. Your ego can't fucking handle the risk of radical restructuring. There is to much at risk.
You dismiss the truth because you prefer your illusion. Live a lie at your peril. If you can refute anything I've said try. Just try. You are to afraid. Your ego can't fucking handle the risk of radical restructuring. There is to much at risk.
That as it may be... the road to becoming a flat earther is arguing with a flat earther. I once was as you are. Then I sought to resolve the issue with some idiot altogether because I use to work on guidance systems for rockets so I though I would be able to destroy some flat earth idiots. Then I was won over and all that was in my past that I ignored as it didn't fit my preconceived ideas came clear into view and I felt like an idiot and laughing my head off and not caring all at the same time. It's really quite a kick when you put it all together.
How come I was able to see stars and constellations from the Philippines that I couldn't see from the Canadian border? I'll believe my own eyes and ears over a YouTube video any day.
Your observation doesn't counter the argument that the earth is flat. It was out of range and disappeared into the vanishing point. You eye cannot detect things but so small and cannot separate out detail like that.
Nope. Not foreshortening. A vanishing point is an infinitely small point on a plane. The depth to witch you discern detail is determined by the mechanical nature of your eye, and the capacity of your neurology to interpret. This is pretty standard in humans from one to another.
A vanishing point is an infinitely small point on a plane.
Yes, and as it approaches that vanishing point the view distorts like when you're way off in the shitty seats in the movie theater. I also can't believe someone so dense expects me to believe he worked with guidance systems.
yea fair enough. But you attack me and not the argument. I'm just telling you what made me dig in. I find most people to be dismissive of the flat earth argument. You don't have a shot at knowing one way or the other when you are dismissive. You keep looking for easy outs. Yea so you say there is distortion like when you're in the shitty seats. Yeah there is. True. Not disagreeing, but what are you saying you would have seen that you didn't again? what was crystal clear that you claim I say would be a distortion? Stars? Like these things?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbLu9fcQI4w&t=69s
Can't explain that with Newtonian science can you. They are just lights in the firmament.
The angular seperation between stars stays constant, no matter if they're near the horizon or straight overhead. Not so with cloud layers, which look quite different at the horizon vs. overhead. I'm going to stop now because it's obvious you're trolling or demented.
Right.... look at a painting with a vanishing point. Painters don't factor in the supposed curvature of the earth in their painting. They just use straight lines. Look at their vanishing points and see that if you travel a little towards it the sky would be offset overhead just as the ground would be under your feet and the vanishing point still just as far off, but down the way a little further allowing you to see different sights coming out of the horizon and into clearer view than when you were further back. That's what painters paint. That's a flat earth model. Looks the same as in real life. Thing is you are at an impasse with the vanishing point but you won't let go, suspend judgment, and move on. You want to say that just doesn't make sense when it clearly does, and you are just arguing without an argument. Out of your inability to handle the loss you resort to name calling etc. There is so much more than just referencing the vanishing point to make sense of things for you if your willing to hear another point that you can wrestle with.
I knew perfectly well what a vanishing point was before you were born and I also know it has nothing to do with which stars are visible at particular latitudes. Your understanding is laughably weak.
right because you believe the earth is a ball without evidence thereof. I state that what you say is obvious is not things going over the curve but going into the vanishing point. You are not refuting this with evidence. You could be rational as am I and agree that what you purport as evidence isn't evidence as all in this case and what I claim isn't proof alone of a flat earth but either way could be true if we consider only this aspect. Effectively these arguments neutralize. But you lose out as you don't reason. If you would concede that which is obvious at this point then further discussion with you could be fruitful. I already know the earth is flat and that enriches my life. You have to live with me a menace to your society running loose teaching all the children. You could attempt to stop me. You could do it for the children.
you believe the earth is a ball without evidence thereof.
I have repeatedly given you idiots numerous ways to determine for yourself that the earth is round but neither one of your brain cells is smart enough to understand. All you can do is point to some poorly edited video. That and youre all too lazy to leave your moms basement.
Ok... I'm not THE guy who supports flat earth. I'm a guy who supports flat earth. You haven't given ME anything other than to describe the same thing that we both see that isn't evidence of a ball, but claim it's a ball. Having looked over tons of the science myself I think it would be crazy to say it's one way or the other base on that alone unless you are some kind of super genius. Even then a super genius would have the sense to relate it back to everyone else by showing how their understanding holds up and plays out in all relevant things where it is easily observed.
So your not a science guy then. A science guy would be able to say I know because of such and such evidence explicitly laid out here for you to see. Your just good goi who puts their trust in jewish fables.
You don't have to be a "science guy" to see right through your retarded bullshit. Go back over my rebuttles and think real hard now, or just admit you're a shareblue shill trying to make voat look like a pack of idiots with Dunning Kruger syndrome.
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The_Duke_of_Dabs ago
Fucking retarded.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
says the hash addict? Refute one claim in the video. Just one. http://weedmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/little-dab-do-you-marijuanameems.jpg
The_Duke_of_Dabs ago
I get high, but ive never gotten high enough to believe the bullshit you spout.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
You just made the irrational conclusion that one must be high to believe the earth is flat. We are at the 10% threshold of people who believe the earth is flat and it's climbing in the USA rapidly. It's not all drug users. You dismiss the truth because you prefer your illusion. Live a lie at your peril. If you can refute anything I've said try. Just try. You are to afraid. Your ego can't fucking handle the risk of radical restructuring. There is to much at risk.
chuckletrousers ago
That's exactly what we think of you.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
That as it may be... the road to becoming a flat earther is arguing with a flat earther. I once was as you are. Then I sought to resolve the issue with some idiot altogether because I use to work on guidance systems for rockets so I though I would be able to destroy some flat earth idiots. Then I was won over and all that was in my past that I ignored as it didn't fit my preconceived ideas came clear into view and I felt like an idiot and laughing my head off and not caring all at the same time. It's really quite a kick when you put it all together.
chuckletrousers ago
Not an argument.
How come I was able to see stars and constellations from the Philippines that I couldn't see from the Canadian border? I'll believe my own eyes and ears over a YouTube video any day.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Your observation doesn't counter the argument that the earth is flat. It was out of range and disappeared into the vanishing point. You eye cannot detect things but so small and cannot separate out detail like that.
chuckletrousers ago
The foreshortening would have been obvious.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Nope. Not foreshortening. A vanishing point is an infinitely small point on a plane. The depth to witch you discern detail is determined by the mechanical nature of your eye, and the capacity of your neurology to interpret. This is pretty standard in humans from one to another.
chuckletrousers ago
Yes, and as it approaches that vanishing point the view distorts like when you're way off in the shitty seats in the movie theater. I also can't believe someone so dense expects me to believe he worked with guidance systems.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
yea fair enough. But you attack me and not the argument. I'm just telling you what made me dig in. I find most people to be dismissive of the flat earth argument. You don't have a shot at knowing one way or the other when you are dismissive. You keep looking for easy outs. Yea so you say there is distortion like when you're in the shitty seats. Yeah there is. True. Not disagreeing, but what are you saying you would have seen that you didn't again? what was crystal clear that you claim I say would be a distortion? Stars? Like these things? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbLu9fcQI4w&t=69s Can't explain that with Newtonian science can you. They are just lights in the firmament.
chuckletrousers ago
The angular seperation between stars stays constant, no matter if they're near the horizon or straight overhead. Not so with cloud layers, which look quite different at the horizon vs. overhead. I'm going to stop now because it's obvious you're trolling or demented.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Right.... look at a painting with a vanishing point. Painters don't factor in the supposed curvature of the earth in their painting. They just use straight lines. Look at their vanishing points and see that if you travel a little towards it the sky would be offset overhead just as the ground would be under your feet and the vanishing point still just as far off, but down the way a little further allowing you to see different sights coming out of the horizon and into clearer view than when you were further back. That's what painters paint. That's a flat earth model. Looks the same as in real life. Thing is you are at an impasse with the vanishing point but you won't let go, suspend judgment, and move on. You want to say that just doesn't make sense when it clearly does, and you are just arguing without an argument. Out of your inability to handle the loss you resort to name calling etc. There is so much more than just referencing the vanishing point to make sense of things for you if your willing to hear another point that you can wrestle with.
chuckletrousers ago
I knew perfectly well what a vanishing point was before you were born and I also know it has nothing to do with which stars are visible at particular latitudes. Your understanding is laughably weak.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
right because you believe the earth is a ball without evidence thereof. I state that what you say is obvious is not things going over the curve but going into the vanishing point. You are not refuting this with evidence. You could be rational as am I and agree that what you purport as evidence isn't evidence as all in this case and what I claim isn't proof alone of a flat earth but either way could be true if we consider only this aspect. Effectively these arguments neutralize. But you lose out as you don't reason. If you would concede that which is obvious at this point then further discussion with you could be fruitful. I already know the earth is flat and that enriches my life. You have to live with me a menace to your society running loose teaching all the children. You could attempt to stop me. You could do it for the children.
chuckletrousers ago
I have repeatedly given you idiots numerous ways to determine for yourself that the earth is round but neither one of your brain cells is smart enough to understand. All you can do is point to some poorly edited video. That and youre all too lazy to leave your moms basement.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Ok... I'm not THE guy who supports flat earth. I'm a guy who supports flat earth. You haven't given ME anything other than to describe the same thing that we both see that isn't evidence of a ball, but claim it's a ball. Having looked over tons of the science myself I think it would be crazy to say it's one way or the other base on that alone unless you are some kind of super genius. Even then a super genius would have the sense to relate it back to everyone else by showing how their understanding holds up and plays out in all relevant things where it is easily observed.
chuckletrousers ago
I know you have to lie and distort the proofs I've seen with my own eyes, that's more than enough to satisfy me.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
So your not a science guy then. A science guy would be able to say I know because of such and such evidence explicitly laid out here for you to see. Your just good goi who puts their trust in jewish fables.
chuckletrousers ago
You don't have to be a "science guy" to see right through your retarded bullshit. Go back over my rebuttles and think real hard now, or just admit you're a shareblue shill trying to make voat look like a pack of idiots with Dunning Kruger syndrome.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
oh Fuck you. Your not gonna run me in circles you just have shit for brains. Faggot.