So.. when the FBI/CIA/NSA get subpoena'd by congress for classified documents and the FBI/CIA/NSA either stonewall for years or just provide the document 100% redacted without any punishment.. what will happen when Congress subpoenas Amazon? Will Amazon actually produce the document like the FBI/CIA/NSA is supposed to, unredacted? Or will they redact the document they provide and actually be punished for contempt of Congress?
Ok. Your point? If Congress subpoenas Amazon for AWS data, they are legally obligated to provide it regardless of if they are US Government servers or otherwise.
You're not understanding. Amazon Web Services is a cloud software suite that the government will be running on it's own servers. No data is being sent to Amazon or any of Amazon's servers. There would be no "AWS data" that Amazon would have.
No, I understand just fine. It appears we appear to disagree with the level of invasiveness in all modern OS backdoors. I don't think any major software company doesn't have a full telemetry enabled backdoor for all data built in, whether they know it or not.
I agree there's likely telemetry but classified networks don't have access to the internet. There's no way for any telemetry to get back to Amazon. Same with Windows - which we already use. I'm sitting at my government computer and have access to the SIPRnet (Secret). Everything on there is run on Windows OS and Windows Sharepoint Services. There's no real difference between WSS and AWS. That's why Microsoft protested the award.
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obvious_throwaway1 ago
So.. when the FBI/CIA/NSA get subpoena'd by congress for classified documents and the FBI/CIA/NSA either stonewall for years or just provide the document 100% redacted without any punishment.. what will happen when Congress subpoenas Amazon? Will Amazon actually produce the document like the FBI/CIA/NSA is supposed to, unredacted? Or will they redact the document they provide and actually be punished for contempt of Congress?
chmod ago
These are still US government servers on US government property. They are just running AWS.
obvious_throwaway1 ago
Ok. Your point? If Congress subpoenas Amazon for AWS data, they are legally obligated to provide it regardless of if they are US Government servers or otherwise.
chmod ago
You're not understanding. Amazon Web Services is a cloud software suite that the government will be running on it's own servers. No data is being sent to Amazon or any of Amazon's servers. There would be no "AWS data" that Amazon would have.
obvious_throwaway1 ago
No, I understand just fine. It appears we appear to disagree with the level of invasiveness in all modern OS backdoors. I don't think any major software company doesn't have a full telemetry enabled backdoor for all data built in, whether they know it or not.
chmod ago
I agree there's likely telemetry but classified networks don't have access to the internet. There's no way for any telemetry to get back to Amazon. Same with Windows - which we already use. I'm sitting at my government computer and have access to the SIPRnet (Secret). Everything on there is run on Windows OS and Windows Sharepoint Services. There's no real difference between WSS and AWS. That's why Microsoft protested the award.
obvious_throwaway1 ago
But there IS a difference - Windows wasn't the product of CIA funding through In-Q-Tel patents. AWS, and every other Bezos-owned project is.