Yeah pretty much. They want to show high school students begging the nation to institute gun control for their safety.
Only they're not going to show any students who want to grow up with their rights intact. They're just gonna show the ones who have been coached to share their activist perspective.
Yes, the pattern appears to be to use a patsy, have a second or more shooter, tell everyone it's a drill, remain calm, don't panic, and don't run. They then murder with maximum carnage and point the blame on the patsy. Usually killing the patsy. They then send in their crisis actors to control and manipulate the outward presentation of the narrative.
I was calling that David Hoggs kid a patsy. It's more accurate than the term crisis actor, because that implies he's getting paid. He's being put up to this, most likely by his parents. Advocating gun bans is not an organic idea from the students like we're being led to believe.
All I've seen is strong evidence for a disingenuous FBI brat riding this event for publicity to promote a future in politics. Between the funding from hollywood, media support, and the support from DC politicians, I don't think anyone can deny that this kid is a pawn or an actor.
I'm open to seeing this evidence you speak of though.
Right, except actor implies he's receiving pay. I use the word patsy instead because he's probably not getting paid. A paid actor isn't loyal. He's being put up to this, probably by his parents based on their connections to CNN and FBI.
Do you have a source on that besides the one anitfa twitter account who claimed that? Was also the same account that tweeted the cruz shooter in a commie shirt that turned out fake.
I have not seen much evidence to prove it's a hoax. The students video that has a glancing view of a person with a puddle of blood around them is fairly hard to disprove. In my opinion the MSM is taking this tragedy and trying to work their agenda. If they are not reporting the how/why correctly then it is by definition a false flag.
If there was no real shooting, it was a hoax. I have seen the cell phone video you speak of -- per usual, vertical aspect, shitty quality, people screaming "oh god oh shit," no real injuries or impacts shown.
A person lying down and a puddle of "blood" shown rapidly and unclearly is not only fake-able, but easily faked. It is not "extraordinary evidence" to substantiate the extraordinary claim that a motiveless deadly mass shooting occurred, on which the burden of proof lies.
On the other hand, we do have evidence that it is a hoax. Multiple drills, the kid forgetting his lines on television, the usual piss-poor acting and lachrymose script..... there is certainly "evidence" that this is all a television show.
Here's how I see it. Well, I actually have seen enough of this shit to assume it's fake until I see reason to believe otherwise, but a simple way to go about it is this:
How do we even know a single shot was fired? All we have is the sound of gunshots in one video.
Is there any other evidence available that could not be easily faked?
These things simply fall apart under the weight of their own details. They lack the 3D appearance of reality, or the "ring of truth."
I'm pretty sure they didn't bury 17 empty caskets. It would take a massive cover up to fake 17 high school students deaths. The weird thing is the drill aspect. Scroll down and check the link out of the librarian that saved kids. Written by the independent. Article says, librarian: Many teachers thought it was fake because we were told a simulated incident would take place"... That sounds a whole lot like a live drill with simulated shooter etc. Also how come everyone of these shooters appears to be half catatonic. The aurora shooter, this guy, they almost do seem like they've went through a few hundred rounds of electric shock.
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anotherdream ago
Fucking A. That fucker was totally coached. So was that air headed girl with all the duper's delight showing. Parkland = Clowns false flag.
Its_over_9000 ago
My bet is the shooting's real, the deaths are real, and these kids are patsies who have no idea what they're a part of.
Just hiring opportunist actors who are out for money (and most likely mentally ill in some order) is sure to get you exposed.
AnarchicAlpaca ago
For what purpose, if the event was real, to interview terrible actors who can barely form sentences?
Chimaira92 ago
Good luck to them getting kids who were actually traumatised to come on television 1 day later (some even the same day) and push for Gun control....
I imagine alot of the kids would lean more towards feeling safer if their teachers were armed instead of stripping guns from everyone.
This is why they use them.
Its_over_9000 ago
Yeah pretty much. They want to show high school students begging the nation to institute gun control for their safety.
Only they're not going to show any students who want to grow up with their rights intact. They're just gonna show the ones who have been coached to share their activist perspective.
NoisyCricket ago
Yes, the pattern appears to be to use a patsy, have a second or more shooter, tell everyone it's a drill, remain calm, don't panic, and don't run. They then murder with maximum carnage and point the blame on the patsy. Usually killing the patsy. They then send in their crisis actors to control and manipulate the outward presentation of the narrative.
Its_over_9000 ago
I was calling that David Hoggs kid a patsy. It's more accurate than the term crisis actor, because that implies he's getting paid. He's being put up to this, most likely by his parents. Advocating gun bans is not an organic idea from the students like we're being led to believe.
NoisyCricket ago
Based on Sandy Hook, very likely there are large sums of money at play. Look at the Christmas home sales and other leads implying large sums of money.
Monteblanc ago
Does anyone know what grades these kids are in?
hels ago
Double post -- Someone posted a yearbook claiming to be Hogg's school. I have zero idea on the credibility so please take with a grain of salt:
https://twitter.com/_joey_wong/status/966181529885036549?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother%7Ctwcon%5E7100%7Ctwterm%5E2
hels ago
I believe Hogg is supposed to be grade 11.
tossyokeys ago
This is what I suspect. You can have crisis actors pushing an agenda after a real shooting just as easily as after a fake one.
My point being, I dont think theres enough evidence to call this a false flag or hoax, but im still pretty sure this kid is an actor.
AnarchicAlpaca ago
There's much more evidence to say it is theater over any real event.
tossyokeys ago
All I've seen is strong evidence for a disingenuous FBI brat riding this event for publicity to promote a future in politics. Between the funding from hollywood, media support, and the support from DC politicians, I don't think anyone can deny that this kid is a pawn or an actor.
I'm open to seeing this evidence you speak of though.
Its_over_9000 ago
Right, except actor implies he's receiving pay. I use the word patsy instead because he's probably not getting paid. A paid actor isn't loyal. He's being put up to this, probably by his parents based on their connections to CNN and FBI.
tossyokeys ago
Do we have a name for this kid yet? I want to put together some proof about his FBI ties for the normies while the story is still hot.
Its_over_9000 ago
David Hoggs
elitch2 ago
He also graduated from a commiefornia school in 2015. God bless /pol/.
Norseman ago
Do you have a source on that besides the one anitfa twitter account who claimed that? Was also the same account that tweeted the cruz shooter in a commie shirt that turned out fake.
elitch2 ago
Here he is in commiefornia in a suspiciously "viral" youtube video. https://hooktube.com/watch?v=76advGTYIpo
can't find the original video. jewtube is scrubbing again.
blackguard19 ago
I see your false flag and raise you to hoax.
hels ago
I have not seen much evidence to prove it's a hoax. The students video that has a glancing view of a person with a puddle of blood around them is fairly hard to disprove. In my opinion the MSM is taking this tragedy and trying to work their agenda. If they are not reporting the how/why correctly then it is by definition a false flag.
blackguard19 ago
If there was no real shooting, it was a hoax. I have seen the cell phone video you speak of -- per usual, vertical aspect, shitty quality, people screaming "oh god oh shit," no real injuries or impacts shown.
A person lying down and a puddle of "blood" shown rapidly and unclearly is not only fake-able, but easily faked. It is not "extraordinary evidence" to substantiate the extraordinary claim that a motiveless deadly mass shooting occurred, on which the burden of proof lies.
On the other hand, we do have evidence that it is a hoax. Multiple drills, the kid forgetting his lines on television, the usual piss-poor acting and lachrymose script..... there is certainly "evidence" that this is all a television show.
Sublimesati ago
The drills are suspect. We'll have to be on the lookout for autopsies etc.
blackguard19 ago
Here's how I see it. Well, I actually have seen enough of this shit to assume it's fake until I see reason to believe otherwise, but a simple way to go about it is this:
How do we even know a single shot was fired? All we have is the sound of gunshots in one video.
Is there any other evidence available that could not be easily faked?
These things simply fall apart under the weight of their own details. They lack the 3D appearance of reality, or the "ring of truth."
Sublimesati ago
I'm pretty sure they didn't bury 17 empty caskets. It would take a massive cover up to fake 17 high school students deaths. The weird thing is the drill aspect. Scroll down and check the link out of the librarian that saved kids. Written by the independent. Article says, librarian: Many teachers thought it was fake because we were told a simulated incident would take place"... That sounds a whole lot like a live drill with simulated shooter etc. Also how come everyone of these shooters appears to be half catatonic. The aurora shooter, this guy, they almost do seem like they've went through a few hundred rounds of electric shock.
blackguard19 ago
Did you see 17 caskets being buried, or any caskets at all being buried?
Sublimesati ago
Just pictures.
Zanbato ago
you are not very intelligent
blackguard19 ago
Please show me the reason you have been convinced that the claims of a real shooting happening no longer need to be questioned?
Zanbato ago
it would be far too difficult to fake such a largescale and public event.
blackguard19 ago
So you also think that 20 children were shot to death at Sandy Hook?
Zanbato ago
of course