Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight were on a routine training mission 100 miles out into the Pacific when the radio in each of their F/A-18F Super Hornets crackled: An operations officer aboard the U.S.S. Princeton, a Navy cruiser, wanted to know if they were carrying weapons.
“Two CATM-9s,” Commander Fravor replied, referring to dummy missiles that could not be fired. He had not been expecting any hostile exchanges off the coast of San Diego that November afternoon in 2004.
Commander Fravor, in a recent interview with The New York Times, recalled what happened next. Some of it is captured in a video made public by officials with a Pentagon program that investigated U.F.O.s.
“Well, we’ve got a real-world vector for you,” the radio operator said, according to Commander Fravor. For two weeks, the operator said, the Princeton had been tracking mysterious aircraft. The objects appeared suddenly at 80,000 feet, and then hurtled toward the sea, eventually stopping at 20,000 feet and hovering. Then they either dropped out of radar range or shot straight back up.
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The radio operator instructed Commander Fravor and Commander Slaight, who has given a similar account, to investigate.
The two fighter planes headed toward the objects. The Princeton alerted them as they closed in, but when they arrived at “merge plot” with the object — naval aviation parlance for being so close that the Princeton could not tell which were the objects and which were the fighter jets — neither Commander Fravor nor Commander Slaight could see anything at first. There was nothing on their radars, either.
Then, Commander Fravor looked down to the sea. It was calm that day, but the waves were breaking over something that was just below the surface. Whatever it was, it was big enough to cause the sea to churn.
Hovering 50 feet above the churn was an aircraft of some kind — whitish — that was around 40 feet long and oval in shape. The craft was jumping around erratically, staying over the wave disturbance but not moving in any specific direction, Commander Fravor said. The disturbance looked like frothy waves and foam, as if the water were boiling.
Commander Fravor began a circular descent to get a closer look, but as he got nearer the object began ascending toward him. It was almost as if it were coming to meet him halfway, he said.
Commander Fravor abandoned his slow circular descent and headed straight for the object.
But then the object peeled away. “It accelerated like nothing I’ve ever seen,” he said in the interview. He was, he said, “pretty weirded out.”
They were en route and closing in when the Princeton radioed again. Radar had again picked up the strange aircraft.
“Sir, you won’t believe it,” the radio operator said, “but that thing is at your cap point.”
“We were at least 40 miles away, and in less than a minute this thing was already at our cap point,” Commander Fravor, who has since retired from the Navy, said in the interview.
By the time the two fighter jets arrived at the rendezvous point, the object had disappeared.
The fighter jets returned to the Nimitz, where everyone on the ship had learned of Commander Fravor’s encounter and was making fun of him.
Commander Fravor’s superiors did not investigate further and he went on with his career, deploying to the Persian Gulf to provide air support to ground troops during the Iraq war. But he does remember what he said that evening to a fellow pilot who asked him what he thought he had seen.
“I have no idea what I saw,” Commander Fravor replied to the pilot. “It had no plumes, wings or rotors and outran our F-18s.”
The video is from department of defense, nobody knows what that black spot is, pilots included, it's a UFO until you can prove it otherwise, case closed
Personally I don't think UFO's exist, nor aliens. This video doesn't prove anything and is not a smoking gun and youtubers with bootleg editing software could easily make a video like this.
Well you just proved you don't know what you're talking about
You don't think UFO exist ?
..
You basically ignore what UFO stands for then, because it's not a matter of belief, it's a factual statement, if you can't identify a flying object then it's ? An unidentified flying object, duh
And again the video is from the department of defense, now go away
All "UFO's" are terrestrial so somewhere they are identified, just not publicly.
You basically ignore what UFO stands for then, because it's not a matter of belief, it's a factual statement, if you can't identify a flying object then it's ? An unidentified flying object, duh
That doesn't mean it's a fuckin alien, just some govt project.
And again the video is from the department of defense, now go away
I'd like to see the original release. The one the govt put out.
Before that post you obviously ignored the very definition of a UFO, and now you're coming up with your made up definition on top of asking me to spoon feed you with DOD source, as indicated on the source footage https://imgoat.com/uploads/3f390d88e4/67529.png
Now maybe it's a giant conspiracy from new york times, businessinsider, abcnews, washingtonpost, you name it, to call it courtesy of department of defense while it's not, right, that must be that
This case was published in the press and pilots interviewed, and to this day it's a UFO
Now feel free to rule out possibilities because they don't fit your belief system in order to feel secure, I don't give a shit, as far as I'm concerned you actually fit the definition of a clueless bigot
Let me ask you a question, faggot, because I'm extremely into conspiracies and am open to any possibility: Why would the (((main stream media))) be promoting some obvious horse shit about UFO's and aliens?
Like I said I don't think UFO's are extra-terrestrial so obviously someone knows what it is, even if it isn't navy pilots. The media is promoting this anti-religious bullshit about UFO's to prepare the public for something similar to project bluebeam. If society is worried about aliens they wont realize that this Earth is all humanity will ever have so we need to learn to get along and take care of parasitic aspects of humanity. If ABC is picking it up, im going to assume it's misinformation to fuel the social retards like people who believe in aliens.
Oh yeah you're an expert mister "All "UFO's" are terrestrial so somewhere they are identified, just not publicly." except when it comes to space rocks entering our atmosphere, first reported as UFO, and then identified as space rocks
Sorry if I don't read any of your crap it's just garbage at that point
UFO, Unidentified Flying Object, there's nothing controversial about it
Can you identify that object in the vid ? Because nobody can obviously, therefore, it's a UFO, DUH
Oh yeah you're an expert mister "All "UFO's" are terrestrial so somewhere they are identified, just not publicly." except when it comes to space rocks entering our atmosphere, first reported as UFO, and then identified as space rocks
I believe it's fiction.
Sorry if I don't read any of your crap it's just garbage at that point
Ditto.
UFO, Unidentified Flying Object, there's nothing controversial about it
Unidentified except by those who built it, if they exist, and those were humans.
Can you identify that object in the vid ? Because nobody can obviously, therefore, it's a UFO, DUH
Completely irrelevant and lamest excuse ever, it's good enough for starters, it's the sanitized version, you have the names and a brief abstract of what it's about, now you want more details hundreds of sources available
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dbvapor ago
What video?
submitted ago
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=BxuSA9o1_vQ
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-that-thing-us-navy-jet-encounters-unknown-object.html
RageAgainstTheAmish ago
Man that shit is fake as fuck why the fuck would the government release that if it were real
submitted ago
how is it fake ?
freshmeat ago
How is it legit?
submitted ago
Simple
Until some1 is capable to identify the object seen in this video then it remains a UFO
Hence, this video is legit, because it shows just that, a UFO
...
Now I'll wait for your debunking of the said video, or any debunking related to it
freshmeat ago
Where is the video from, when did it come out. And where is the UFO, and is there any govt statements about it?
submitted ago
omg "where is the ufo"
Are you serious ? Right in the middle of the fucking HUD, the black spot
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.html
Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight were on a routine training mission 100 miles out into the Pacific when the radio in each of their F/A-18F Super Hornets crackled: An operations officer aboard the U.S.S. Princeton, a Navy cruiser, wanted to know if they were carrying weapons.
“Two CATM-9s,” Commander Fravor replied, referring to dummy missiles that could not be fired. He had not been expecting any hostile exchanges off the coast of San Diego that November afternoon in 2004.
Commander Fravor, in a recent interview with The New York Times, recalled what happened next. Some of it is captured in a video made public by officials with a Pentagon program that investigated U.F.O.s.
“Well, we’ve got a real-world vector for you,” the radio operator said, according to Commander Fravor. For two weeks, the operator said, the Princeton had been tracking mysterious aircraft. The objects appeared suddenly at 80,000 feet, and then hurtled toward the sea, eventually stopping at 20,000 feet and hovering. Then they either dropped out of radar range or shot straight back up.
Continue reading the main story RELATED COVERAGE
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program DEC. 16, 2017 The radio operator instructed Commander Fravor and Commander Slaight, who has given a similar account, to investigate.
The two fighter planes headed toward the objects. The Princeton alerted them as they closed in, but when they arrived at “merge plot” with the object — naval aviation parlance for being so close that the Princeton could not tell which were the objects and which were the fighter jets — neither Commander Fravor nor Commander Slaight could see anything at first. There was nothing on their radars, either.
Then, Commander Fravor looked down to the sea. It was calm that day, but the waves were breaking over something that was just below the surface. Whatever it was, it was big enough to cause the sea to churn.
Hovering 50 feet above the churn was an aircraft of some kind — whitish — that was around 40 feet long and oval in shape. The craft was jumping around erratically, staying over the wave disturbance but not moving in any specific direction, Commander Fravor said. The disturbance looked like frothy waves and foam, as if the water were boiling.
Commander Fravor began a circular descent to get a closer look, but as he got nearer the object began ascending toward him. It was almost as if it were coming to meet him halfway, he said.
Commander Fravor abandoned his slow circular descent and headed straight for the object.
But then the object peeled away. “It accelerated like nothing I’ve ever seen,” he said in the interview. He was, he said, “pretty weirded out.”
They were en route and closing in when the Princeton radioed again. Radar had again picked up the strange aircraft.
“Sir, you won’t believe it,” the radio operator said, “but that thing is at your cap point.”
“We were at least 40 miles away, and in less than a minute this thing was already at our cap point,” Commander Fravor, who has since retired from the Navy, said in the interview.
By the time the two fighter jets arrived at the rendezvous point, the object had disappeared.
The fighter jets returned to the Nimitz, where everyone on the ship had learned of Commander Fravor’s encounter and was making fun of him.
Commander Fravor’s superiors did not investigate further and he went on with his career, deploying to the Persian Gulf to provide air support to ground troops during the Iraq war. But he does remember what he said that evening to a fellow pilot who asked him what he thought he had seen.
“I have no idea what I saw,” Commander Fravor replied to the pilot. “It had no plumes, wings or rotors and outran our F-18s.”
But, he added, “I want to fly one.”
freshmeat ago
Yeah it;s a shitty video and the thing they are supposedly tracking doesn't move in the frame at all, it stays static. It looks fake.
Yeah I'll go ahead and file this under the category of "bulshit"
submitted ago
The video is from department of defense, nobody knows what that black spot is, pilots included, it's a UFO until you can prove it otherwise, case closed
freshmeat ago
Personally I don't think UFO's exist, nor aliens. This video doesn't prove anything and is not a smoking gun and youtubers with bootleg editing software could easily make a video like this.
submitted ago
Well you just proved you don't know what you're talking about
You don't think UFO exist ?
..
You basically ignore what UFO stands for then, because it's not a matter of belief, it's a factual statement, if you can't identify a flying object then it's ? An unidentified flying object, duh
And again the video is from the department of defense, now go away
freshmeat ago
All "UFO's" are terrestrial so somewhere they are identified, just not publicly.
That doesn't mean it's a fuckin alien, just some govt project.
I'd like to see the original release. The one the govt put out.
submitted ago
What a load of crap
Before that post you obviously ignored the very definition of a UFO, and now you're coming up with your made up definition on top of asking me to spoon feed you with DOD source, as indicated on the source footage https://imgoat.com/uploads/3f390d88e4/67529.png
Now maybe it's a giant conspiracy from new york times, businessinsider, abcnews, washingtonpost, you name it, to call it courtesy of department of defense while it's not, right, that must be that
http://www.businessinsider.fr/us/former-navy-pilot-said-he-saw-ufo-and-it-weirded-him-out-2017-12/
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-that-thing-us-navy-jet-encounters-unknown-object.html
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/secret-pentagon-ufo-program-revealed-51843322
https://hooktube.com/G-3vlbhqzGg?t=36s
This case was published in the press and pilots interviewed, and to this day it's a UFO
Now feel free to rule out possibilities because they don't fit your belief system in order to feel secure, I don't give a shit, as far as I'm concerned you actually fit the definition of a clueless bigot
freshmeat ago
Let me ask you a question, faggot, because I'm extremely into conspiracies and am open to any possibility: Why would the (((main stream media))) be promoting some obvious horse shit about UFO's and aliens?
Like I said I don't think UFO's are extra-terrestrial so obviously someone knows what it is, even if it isn't navy pilots. The media is promoting this anti-religious bullshit about UFO's to prepare the public for something similar to project bluebeam. If society is worried about aliens they wont realize that this Earth is all humanity will ever have so we need to learn to get along and take care of parasitic aspects of humanity. If ABC is picking it up, im going to assume it's misinformation to fuel the social retards like people who believe in aliens.
I think it's a hoax, and click bait.
submitted ago
Oh yeah you're an expert mister "All "UFO's" are terrestrial so somewhere they are identified, just not publicly." except when it comes to space rocks entering our atmosphere, first reported as UFO, and then identified as space rocks
Sorry if I don't read any of your crap it's just garbage at that point
UFO, Unidentified Flying Object, there's nothing controversial about it
Can you identify that object in the vid ? Because nobody can obviously, therefore, it's a UFO, DUH
freshmeat ago
I believe it's fiction.
Ditto.
Unidentified except by those who built it, if they exist, and those were humans.
hurr durr bigfoot is real because we took a picture of him
Sorry dude, not buying this bullshit as a smoking gun.
submitted ago
Asteroids are often reported and categorized as UFOs
Again your definition of UFO is retarded
freshmeat ago
what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
submitted ago
"All "UFO's" are terrestrial so somewhere they are identified, just not publicly."
DURH DURH DURH
Flash news not all UFOs are terrestrial
Again you're only spewing made up definition and opinions to fit your belief system, that's lame
freshmeat ago
So what the fuck, are you talking about aircraft or asteroids? I thought the video was about aircraft so what does asteroids have to do with anything?
submitted ago
I'm talking about your lame ass definition of a UFO
Don't bother to reply if it's just to pretend you don't understand, because you're doing just that since 10 posts, lame ass obstructionism
It's a UFO, the video is legit, get used to it case closed
freshmeat ago
you are playing semantics. It's a hoax. It's not a falling asteroid, it's a CGI.
submitted ago
It's a hoax it's CGI according to who ?
Prove it's forgery or btfo moron
freshmeat ago
hahaha, sure thing there Mulder
submitted ago
lol
You sound just like that pompous abc news fag in the vid above, congrats
freshmeat ago
stop being easily fooled.
submitted ago
You're the one folling yourself here
Your point was : this isn't a UFO
Reality : it is a UFO, by all standards
Your second point was : This video isn't legit
Reality : It is legit, courtesy of DOD
freshmeat ago
Semantics. Thought we were talking about aircraft, not falling debris.
Reality: it's regurgitated psy-ops from the 60's.
submitted ago
Except in the 60's they categorically denied any existence of it
Now they are basically admitting they don't control their airspace, just to scare us about the communists
makes sense
freshmeat ago
project bluebeam
submitted ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufology#COMETA_Report_(France,_1999)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek#Change_of_opinion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_flight_1628_incident#Observation
freshmeat ago
wikipedia is a terrible source.
submitted ago
Completely irrelevant and lamest excuse ever, it's good enough for starters, it's the sanitized version, you have the names and a brief abstract of what it's about, now you want more details hundreds of sources available
http://www.disclosureproject.org/docs/pdf/COMETA_part1.pdf
http://disclosureproject.org/docs/pdf/COMETA_part2.pdf