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TheBuddha ago

Probably not, they don't believe in the scientific method.

GhostPantsMcGee ago

This should be rich, scientifically prove to me the earth is round or admit your only justification for your belief is leaning on borrowed authority.

I don't even believe the earth is really flat; I'm just tired of this disgusting secular religion masquerading as science, because I rather like science.

TheBuddha ago

First, the onus is on you to disprove the current understanding. But, I'll play your game.

If the Earth weren't flat, you couldn't circumnavigate it. If the Earth weren't flat, gravity would exert less force near the edges and things like satellites wouldn't work. Does your GPS work? If so, the planet is certainly not flat.

It's not round, either. It is an oblate spheroid.

punchingtrees ago

you're born with zero understanding, so the "onus" is on the person who is making the claim to back it up, just using the phrase "current understanding" doesn't make something true

TheBuddha ago

You never took a formal critical thinking course, did you? You might enjoy a debate club.

retprob ago

We're not...

GhostPantsMcGee ago

It is disturbing and sad that a phd in mathematics can't envision circumnavigation on a of a circle about it's midpoint, which would be a concentric circle. I'm just a retarded flat earther, so this is probably pretty embarrassing for you.

Your lack of imagination is also pretty disappointing; as a math whiz I'm sure you are familiar with infinite planes, removing the necessity for an "edge" (which literally zero people who argue flat earth suggest).

My gps works off triangulation, which is provided by cell towers. I'll also add there is a reason apps recommend enabling wifi to "improve the accuracy of gps".

You know what is really sad about this? You not only failed with whatever You were attempting to do here, but none of your attempted disproofs even vaguely represent a scientific approach, which was my entire reason for diving into this argument.

I'll repeat what I said earlier, since all those years getting a phd in mathematics didn't help your reading comprehension much:

scientifically prove to me the earth is round

I'm tired of this disgusting secular religion masquerading as science

Also noteworthy, was that you did indeed lean on borrowed authority for this with your inability to resist the urge to feel smart by pointing out earth is an oblate spheroid (something you were told, and have no means of determining yourself) because using the colloquial "round" is apparently beneath a man of your academic stature. I'm shocked you didn't mention it's pear-like leanings.

Anyways, thanks for playing "doc"

PS: I'm eleven years old and my dad works for Nintendo.

qwop ago

No. Ever heard of a sextant? I would start by looking at the mathematics behind navigation with a sextant. If you come back to me and tell me you know all the equations and understand the calculations, and you prove that you know them by showing me some examples, then we can talk.

Welcome to science.

GhostPantsMcGee ago

To clarify: your proof is that I should go prove it to myself before you would dain to talk to me.

Amazing.

qwop ago

No. Sextants work. They have been used for navigation for hundreds of years. Because they work, it is proof that the mathematics behind them is sound.

Therefore in order to prove the earth is flat, you first have to understand how sextants work, and THEN you have to disprove the mathematics, or alternatively if you wish; PROVE an alternate method of navigation that works in the flat earth model.

Just throwing words around in a discussion forum isn't worth jack shit. Flat earthers talk about science all the time, yet they never bother to personally do any of it. Are you any different?

I'm still waiting for the actual science to show up.

TheBuddha ago

Your GPS works down the road from my house, where there are now towers.

Secondly, infinity doesn't exist except as a mathematical concept. Nothing is infinite in reality, nothing.

Also, this is kind of fun. I can see the appeal. I should grab a laptop and bang out some serious replies.

Fibbideh ago

This sounds like fun. Have you personally circumnavigated the globe or have you just been told someone has? Even if you have how can you be positive that it wasn't just a wide circle?

TheBuddha ago

I've circumnavigated the globe multiple times and I can be sure because I actually know how maps work. However, I don't have to do that. My GPS works and I can see things like an eclipse. I can see tidal effects and measure the force of gravity to see that it is very, very much alike - no matter where I go.

I have complete confidence that the planet isn't flat.

heuristic ago

not saying I believe in flat earth, but eclipses are questionable. even for round earthers. I would say that a good point

11453216? ago

yup