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LostandFound ago

Ola I will drop back later to provide more detail but theres MANY more questions surrounding this event. All I have for now is crumbs, over on 8ch was the most concentrated collection of autists I could find. Please have a look at this http://archive.is/Rfrmc / https://8ch.net/pol/res/10779049.html there's 8 threads so probably over 6k posts just on this.

re: point 7 it has been confirmed that there were two police officers inside the building when the shooting started.

Why a whole hour before they enter / Why use explosive breach thats not visible on the photos from outside the room - door looks pretty intact / why say that there were 200 rounds emptied into the building when theres little to no evidence of this taking place. Think what your front door would look like with 200 rounds peppered through it + then blown of its hinges.

This also was supposed to contain raw security footage https://hooktube.com/watch?v=A0RGF-ZEolM but was insta scrubbed from YT - hook should have copied it over but also scrubbed ....

Cigarette5mokingman ago

i have the raw security footage video. i saved it before it went down. you can see it (or atleast a segment of it on one of the tucker carlson clips easily found on youtube. if not, ask me, i can upload it someonewhere in its entirety. its over an hr of unedited security footage. not exactly sure of the location. Somewhere off of Giles by the church as far as I can tell.

thoht ago

Where...?

Cigarette5mokingman ago

Where what?

thoht ago

Sorry: where would this raw security footage video you mention be accessible? Would you be so kind as to upload the video and post a link in this thread (perhaps in your original comment) so other's can access it? Thank you.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

https://mega.nz/#!szQTRDbA

!m2FxdLYK-aNsjBRHvn87JFwgzoowW1ZYd15a3gqmRMQ

thoht ago

Thanks!!!! ^_^

Cigarette5mokingman ago

For reference, I have pinpointed the specific location of the camera: here

new4now ago

We never did see opposite wall of the door

Cigarette5mokingman ago

There is no wall opposite the door. The door to 32-135 faces down a long hallway.

new4now ago

Really doesn't matter I guess

Hotel, Police,FBI, Media all BSing anyways

Cigarette5mokingman ago

your point is still valid, we still have yet to see A LOT of things. (like paddock checking in to the hotel at least.) but i did need to clarify, as im sure many people are still confused by what happened/layout/etc.

new4now ago

The fact none of that stuff being supplied says a lot

They sure are mum, and with so many people involved, well it's like a Pandora box

LostandFound ago

It should have been a shit show, whats the internals of a hotel made from plaster and chipboard vs. 200 rounds from auto rifles at a few meters range. And we are supposed to believe that this was what was left as a result after 200 & an explosive breach. Plus consider that we were also told at one stage that paddock was drilling holes in the door when compos arrived.

https://i.imgtc.com/FKukxM3.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/xT8uPaO.jpeg

Cigarette5mokingman ago

Definitely not 200 rounds, but the door was definitely explosively breached. The explosion can be heard in the police scanner audio.

"Breach breach breach" KABOOM

LostandFound ago

I appreciate that but there's no damage on the visible section of the door or door frame. Why only breach on one side? More questions than answers on that one.

cynicaloldfart ago

hook should have copied it over but also scrubbed

HT doesn't host (or save) any content. It simply pulls from YT's api. So if it gets scrubbed from YT, HT can't access it.

LostandFound ago

TIL that something I thought I knew was wrong. Thanks for clarifying that :)

Cc1914 ago

Wow that video is already gone! I went to show it to my husband and poof!

Cc1914 ago

Wow that video says it all!

thoht ago

How do we know this video is even "real", as opposed to engineered? The public in general would not be expected to even be able to tell whether this is even Las Vegas, and whether this is even the night of the shootings. A well done analysis demonstrating these things would help, but it still doesn't preclude the possibility that this video itself might have been digitally altered to show whatever the creator wants it to show.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

The video is real. Theres no question about it. There's also another video from the same camera, the day afterward, that captures Sean Hannity and crew preparing and conducting an interview with a victim from the shooting.

thoht ago

I am a bit puzzled that there could be "no questions about it". In seeking truth, it is useful to question everything, and systematically subject the object(s) of our questioning to tests that will shed light on the matter. That's the whole reason for this thread, to begin with: questioning of the "official" story the mainstream uniformitarian media is feeding us. I honestly barely understand what I'm looking at when I see the video referenced above, and what is being implied. There's a helicopter at night, presumably flying in a city that is implied to be Las Vegas, at night, presumably on the date of the recent massacre. However, 1) how does the viewer know this is actually Las Vegas, if you've never been there or if you're simply not familiar with the city from this view?. A comparison between known pictures and/or videos of Vegas as viewed from that angle with the footage in the video would help to establish that this is indeed Vegas. Then there's the issue of timing. 2) How would one be reassured that this video was taken the night of the massacre? 3) It does indeed seem like this helicopter is shooting gunfire, but we cannot see what it might be shooting at. How is it "clear" that it is shooting at the crowd? 4) Are there possible alternative explanations to what we're seeing in the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j35hVO6sPg

Cigarette5mokingman ago

not sure if we're speaking about the same video. i'm talking about the raw security footage facing the fuel takes. Its an hr and half of video from a motion sensor camera close to the route 91 venue. It was featured on Tucker Carlson (in segmented form). If you would like to see it in full, I linked you above a download option. Sorry for the confusion.

Cc1914 ago

How do " we" ? You've been a member for 12 hours and you say "how do we even know if it's Real ?" There are plenty more videos just like that out there . Kinda hard to engineer

thoht ago

I am unsure how the length of time I have been a member on Voat under this username is relevant at all. For all you know, I might have been a member with other usernames for much longer. Anyway, by "we", I mean "humanity", or, more generally "whoever watches the video". It would be very useful to reassure the viewer if these other videos were posted along with the one above. Multiple pieces of evidence from various sources would make the case for the video a lot stronger. I disagree that this would be hard to engineer. Consider the highly advanced state of our current technology, as in the following small example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yq67CjDqvw

Cc1914 ago

Ok fair.. What I'm saying is there are several homegrown videos showing the same helicopters . To me it seems hard to have people who randomly came up with similar stories of what happened . Who really knows .. this whole thing , and the Santa Rosa fires plus numerous other so-called natural happenings , it's just insane !

thoht ago

I was trying to post a speculative possibility, but I don't have enough CCP under this username to do so. Alas, I'm even limited to 10 comments per day -hence my delay in replying here U_Uu. I agree there's a lot of insanity in the world -but linking the Santa Rosa wild fires to the Las Vegas massacre is quite a leap. California experiences wild fires periodically (possibly at an increasing rate, given the changing climate).

Cc1914 ago

I'm not linking the fires to Vegas . Just was pointing out that it's all insane.