Had a reddit account for over 8 years, not one comment deleted ever. Came to voat about 4 months ago after reading the How Reddit Was Destroyed (ver3.0) thread And this weekend I got my first ever notice of a comment deleted!
Much to my dismay I was curious, did I accidentally violate Swiss laws? Did I mistakenly dox someone? what little comment of mine could warrant such derision? Well low and behold my comment from this thread in fat people hate, where I point out the futility of shaming people in a forum they'll never see it, in the hopes of helping them loose weight.
Some FPH mods actually believe they are helping people
I've been in the FPH community for about 6 months, and considered it my reddit home. Anti-obesity it's something I feel very strongly about, not just from a FPH fat-shaming standpoint, but also from a "how do we solve the obesity problem" active standpoint.
and all I did was point out that logic is futile if they never see the content directed towards them.
Low and behold I make a thread on v/voat discussing my comment deletion
and who turns up?
FPH mod: @12_Years_A_Toucan openly states:
We don't allow people who are there to fight, argue, and comment dissenting opinions to the community and our community likes it that way
AAAAAAND another FPH MOD confirming censorship:
user @ https://voat.co/user/SportyStrawberry:
posted
DING DING DING!
YES we censor dissenting opinions from our subverse, as is our right. We have never claimed otherwise. Are you daft?
So there you have it folks see for yourself how this community thinks it's better than the down voat button. Think it can decide what you can and can't read. Feast your eyes on CENSORSHIP.
MUAHAHAHA
i had fun writing this time to play tf2 a bit and let some comments roll in. :)
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Mumberthrax ago
So I got mail indicating that this post had the appearance of being "brigaded". about 30 minutes old, only a few votes (2/2), but already 47 comments (this is definitely unusual) - most of them sounding a bit enraged at @mHtt. We don't have any rules about brigading on this subverse currently or any policy for handling it. This post does appear to have an unusual amount of FPH fans present - and that's fine! I want to encourage you all to please not attack someone just because you disagree with them. Refuting ideas is fine - and desired! Lots of pathos or vitriol is not really desired on our subverse.
@mHtt, the fatpeoplehate subverse is a quirky beast, and as far as I'm aware they have a policy about removing comments critical of their activities or culture. I think it's dumb as hell and harms our site, but it's just the way things are. I've had some bad encounters with some of them outside of their subverse, making pretty despicable personal attacks on me for being critical of them, but generally they have been keeping to their subverse. They have their safe space, and I guess that's a good thing.
I do think it's understandable that some of them would lash out at you for posting about it. Many people from that community/culture are kind of immature and very much driven by emotion and drama. So it is easy to see why they would follow you here to this post, or respond negatively to you on your /v/voat submission. I don't think it's right, but it's understandable.
I don't know how to resolve the issues relating to that community injecting itself into our overall Voat.co community. The best I can suggest is to just do your own thing outside of their subverse, let them do what they will in that space. I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience here on /v/conspiracy today, but hopefully it will be only a one-time thing.
mHtt ago
Hey thanks for writing the great reply. I appreciate your time and energy. I'm not upset, im entertained to say the least.
I think it's important to fight censorship in all it's forms and love having /v/conspiracy as a place to discuss these topics.
I just wish such an active topic could see more eyes so we could better grasp how the community as a whole feels.
seems kind of like more censorship when nobody can see a young debate this active ...
thanks again for your time. peace :)
Mumberthrax ago
You're right. I do think that a proper discussion about these issues should be had where more people can see them. It's unfortunate that this sort of downvoting to invisibility thing happens sometimes. Perhaps at some point we can do some sort of inter-subverse discussions, maybe an AMA or panel with mods from FPH to try and get a better handling on where everyone stands on these issues and what problems need attention.
mHtt ago
I am open and willing to participate in meaningful and constructive discussion.
I will give you my word to never troll in or with reference to /v/conspiracy
thanks for working with me on this. :)