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Rellik88 ago

WOW in the video at 50seconds. You see Mandaley Bay and here gun fire, yet NO FUCKING MUZZLE FLASH ANYWHERE! Also I can hear multple guns.

JoeMontana ago

Fishy as fuck huh. They choose concerts because they can play gunshots over the audio system.

altident ago

So are all the doctors and nurses at the nearby hospitals also in on the conspiracy? Wouldn't they go home and be like, "it's pretty weird that I didn't see a single gunshot victim today when there were hundreds right down the street"?

JoeMontana ago

You mean the hundreds who were ready and in place waiting for it to happen, so they can pretend there were bodies and injured people? Yes. Did you even watch the vid you faggot?

altident ago

Yes. All it showed was people falling down during a shooting and calling it weird, accusing someone of saying "active shooter" because "nobody talks like that" when literally every thread and every news article and every cop says "active shooter" every time something like this happens, and also completely discounts his story because it gives no regard for what it's like for someone to be in shock; then it goes on to say that it's somehow weird that a rich dude who literally makes a career out of going to big parties in vegas was at a big party in vegas, and then says that some mentally challenged African being willing to trade freedom for security is obvious proof of the new world order.

So legitimately, you think that people went to med school for 8 years so they could join in on government conspiracies about fake shootings?

JoeMontana ago

Amazing that you managed to miss the most meaningful and important things.

So legitimately, you think that people went to med school for 8 years so they could join in on government conspiracies about fake shootings?

Why are you questions you already know the answer to? Satanists have no souls. There's more of them around than you normies know

altident ago

100% of doctors are satanists? Because 100% of the doctors and hospital staff in vegas would have to be in on this for it to have happened as you're saying. Every doctor, every nurse, every receptionist, every janitor, every cafeteria worker, not one of them could be left at risk of saying "uh, hey guys, we never got hundreds of shooting victims here." Do you not realize how much you have to detach yourself from reality to maintain these ideas?

JoeMontana ago

Do you not realize how much you have to detach yourself from reality to maintain these ideas?

you are starting to sound like a satanic shill bud. May the Lord bless you by giving you everything you deserve in how long or short your life is going to be.

have you seen any proof injured people were helped at hospitals? Nope, yet you are sitting there like a faggot lecturing me about a lack of reality sense. If you want to be a retard, that's fine. Go do it somewhere else though.

altident ago

Show me one hospital employee saying that nobody came to the hospitals. There are hundreds saying that they did come. Obviously, you think those people are fakes, but then show me the real people who are calling bullshit. A tiny bit of logic would tell you that those people would be out there and easy to find.

Unless, like I said, you think that 100% of hospital employees everywhere are satanists just pretending every day until their chance finally comes to help with a false flag event in their city. In which case I'd need to ask you where your proof of that ridiculous idea is.

JoeMontana ago

You're the one believing something without proof. Based on some vids of crisis actors acting poorly. I already told you. I am not interested in talking to faggot shills today. You'll have to go find someone else to annoy.

altident ago

So just clearly, for the record, can you state that you think that every hospital employee in the country is actually a government plant on standby waiting for orders to pretend that there was a mass shooting whenever the satanists want?

I've asked three times, and it's just a yes or no question, but you seem to be afraid to answer it.

JoeMontana ago

If I were president, faggots like you would be getting shot.

altident ago

See? Your theory literally cannot be true unless every hospital employee in the area is in on it, and that idea is so ridiculous that you aren't even willing to say it yourself, even though you necessarily have to believe it in order to believe everything else you're saying.

JoeMontana ago

I'm literally the guy who briefs people on how to deal with shills.

altident ago

You know what the amazing thing is? I'm not even saying this wasn't a planned attack from the government or from Soros or anything. It very well could have been. And it would likely be specifically to take our guns away.

I'm just pointing out how illogical it is to think that an entire city could just "pretend" that hundreds of people were wounded and that nobody would know.

It's completely devoid of logic, and you're just bitter that you put all that effort into that video just to realize that there's no way you could be right. So rather than correct your mistake, you double down on your stupidity and call everyone "shill."

JoeMontana ago

There's nothing amazing about you being a shill. All you have done is lie. It's the same lies as over on pol. You guys suck at shilling. Who's your boss? I should get you fired.

altident ago

Lol.

"I fucked up and there's no way my plan could have worked in real life. Should I admit it? No! Shill!"

I'll even say it. I think it probably was a false flag attack. There's just no way anyone except you is stupid enough to think that playing gunshots over some speakers is enough to convince an entire city that hundreds of people had been shot. It'd be 100x easier to actually shoot them. Unless you think the satanists have some moral qualm against murdering innocent people?

JoeMontana ago

You do know there are manuals about how shills argue right.

altident ago

Can you just explain why they would play gunshots on speakers instead of just actually having someone shoot everyone?

Makes zero sense. Evil murderers don't murder people when they want everyone to be afraid because people got murdered.

It's just stupid. I'm sorry you wasted your time on that video, but literally anyone with a tiny amount of logic knows that people would have to have been killed for any false flag to work. There are way too many people who would know that nothing happened.

JoeMontana ago

Can you just explain why they would play gunshots on speakers instead of just actually having someone shoot everyone?

To not shoot the crisis actors.

altident ago

Why would they need crisis actors? They'd be literally shooting people.

JoeMontana ago

Because they didn't want a massacre. They only wanted a hoax in order to get the guns away from burgers.

altident ago

Why wouldn't they want a massacre? According to you they're blood-thirsty satanists. Why would they have any objections to massacring people in order to achieve their agenda?

Why would they do the exact stupidest thing and involve as many people as possible on the hoax for no reason? Too many people to trust to keep secrets. You could just send in one guy with a gun and achieve the same goal with zero risk of people blabbing or catching on.

JoeMontana ago

Because if they caused a literal massacre the crowd would have started to fight back.

Why would they have any objections to massacring people in order to achieve their agenda?

They don't. Already told you they didn't want their crisis actors injured.

altident ago

If they were massacring people there would be no need for actors.

And really? Did you see anyone fighting back? Or do you think that the entire music festival was fake? How are the actions of people who think they're getting massacred different from the actions of people who are getting massacred? How the hell does an unarmed crowd of civilians fight back against someone 32 stories in the air with a machine gun, anyway?

JoeMontana ago

altident ago

I've literally watched it twice. After you said I missed the "most important" stuff, I watched it again because I did do some fast forwarding through the stupid slutty music video portion, so I thought maybe I had legitimately missed something.

But no, I literally described every scene in the video in my earlier comment. There is not a single thing compelling about that video except that the maker clearly has a loose grip on reality.

JoeMontana ago

Name me one conspiracy you believe in that most people don't.

altident ago

I don't really "believe" in any conspiracies, but I also don't automatically dismiss any of them. I definitely think there's a good chance that the government or some other form of power does things like this to manipulate perspective, and I think there's a good chance that this is another example.

Just like you, I think it's silly to just believe something one way or the other without proof. Things can look fishy, and that makes it fair to question them, but fishy isn't proof.

But when I see someone making a terrible case for their argument on either side, I say something about it. It would make a million times more sense to literally send a shooter to kill all these people than to try to orchestrate a fake massacre that nobody would know about.

JoeMontana ago

So you don't believe in any conspiracy. A good shill would have at least lied about this part. Again, you are horrible at your job.

altident ago

Lol. I believe in being skeptical, but you railed me for believing something without proof while you do the same thing as an obsession.

JoeMontana ago

There's tons of proof that satanists are doing these hoaxes by order of their jew masters.

I believe in being skeptical, but

I'm not a racist, but

You don't even know how to speak properly. Is it national faggot day on voat?

altident ago

Really? Go ahead and show me some physical evidence that the gunshots were played over speakers, and prove that that's not something you just made up. Some rich dude saying "active shooter" isn't proof of anything.

JoeMontana ago

You've already said you don't believe in conspiracies. If you want to learn, you have to go do your own research. I can't help you wake up.

altident ago

I've already said I don't believe in them because there's no proof. Fishy situations aren't proof, and warrant skepticism but not belief. Thanks for the confirmation by providing no proof.

JoeMontana ago

I'm going to make food.