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witchy_Woahman ago

Anyone can go to a Masonic lodge and join. There's no secret. Join one and you'll see for yourself

JesusRules ago

No Secret?

The obligation of a first degree Freemason (Entered Apprentice degree): “Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the rough sands of the sea at low-water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty four hours, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this my solemn oath and obligation as an Entered Apprentice Mason. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.” The obligation of a second degree Freemason (Fellowcraft degree): “Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my left breast torn open, my heart plucked out, and given as a prey to the wild beasts of the field and the fowls of the air as a prey.” The obligation of a third degree Freemason (Master Mason degree): “Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of heaven, so that no more trace or remembrance may be had of so vile and perjured a wretch as I, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this my solemn obligation as a Master Mason. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.”

witchy_Woahman ago

do you really believe that you consume the blood and flesh of Jesus at communion? it's a ritual. those words are symbolic.

JesusRules ago

From a high level Mason, Alister Crowley:

"The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. {95} For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape. "

https://raumfahrer.wordpress.com/manson/crowley-on-sacrifice/

witchy_Woahman ago

it's part of a ritual. you really think they adhere to those words today? even college fraternities have rituals that sound gruesome if some unenforced "code" is broken. freemasonry conspiracies are just creepypasta

JesusRules ago

Yes, fraternities like the Skull and Bones (Brotherhood of Death)

witchy_Woahman ago

even social fraternities, you can find their rituals online if you look for them. they all say stuff like under punishment of death, etc. for "revealing secrets". my uncle is a schizo and honestly, a lot of your talk resembles his paranoia.

go to a temple, talk to masons, even try joining. There is literally nothing holding you back from getting answers to the questions you have about freemasonry.

JesusRules ago

I am a Christian

"Albert Pike, 33-degree Freemason and author of Morals and Dogma

Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!iv

The devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry. For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythological and horned form of the God Pan; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend.v

The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is Yahweh (GOD) reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but a negation of God...the Kabala imagined Him to be a "most occult light."vi

That which we must say to a crowd is—We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees—The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay whose deeds prove his cruelty, perdify and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests, calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods: darkness being necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.vii"

Lucifer is the god of Freemasonry http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception-Freemason_Lucifer_Albert_Pike