Ive always been for individual citizens being allowed to carry, but this is kinda the cluster fuck I imagine when there are multiple people carrying and one gun man, and add in cops, it would just be a bunch of people shooting each other in confusion.
That's what I'm thinking! How would we figure that number up? How do you get the police report?
What if the gunman holed up because of some fags with guns, And then the cops show up, and they start firing on the fags with the guns? What if 40+ people were shot by cops? What if ALL the deaths were because of cops?
You're joking right? First off, I my point was hypothetical. Also it would not be/should not be hard to determine who shot who. It would be simple, as I understand when an officer discharges his weapon he has to disclose it. The department would have all records of officer weapons fired, and would easily match ballistics tests on victims. A coverup would be the only way to avoid this, simply recording all gunshot wounds as belonging to the perpetrator weapons. If records are public, people just have to request them and check ballistics tests, but chances are a cover up would take place at the autopsy/ballistics test level and would not be detectable in official records. I really doubt that the victims had guns inside, as most night clubs and bars do not allow any weapons, and according to the report I remember, the shooter attacked bouncers/door people to gain initial access. My original point is that civilians carrying guns would be dangerous in a panic situation. This was bad, but if there were a bunch of civilians running around with guns it would be worse.
Every actual situation where civilians had guns the incident was over in less then a minute long before cops arrived. The gun man would have died just inside the doors if he was lucky.
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muricasnexttopautist ago
Ive always been for individual citizens being allowed to carry, but this is kinda the cluster fuck I imagine when there are multiple people carrying and one gun man, and add in cops, it would just be a bunch of people shooting each other in confusion.
DyingEurope ago
That's what I'm thinking! How would we figure that number up? How do you get the police report?
What if the gunman holed up because of some fags with guns, And then the cops show up, and they start firing on the fags with the guns? What if 40+ people were shot by cops? What if ALL the deaths were because of cops?
muricasnexttopautist ago
You're joking right? First off, I my point was hypothetical. Also it would not be/should not be hard to determine who shot who. It would be simple, as I understand when an officer discharges his weapon he has to disclose it. The department would have all records of officer weapons fired, and would easily match ballistics tests on victims. A coverup would be the only way to avoid this, simply recording all gunshot wounds as belonging to the perpetrator weapons. If records are public, people just have to request them and check ballistics tests, but chances are a cover up would take place at the autopsy/ballistics test level and would not be detectable in official records. I really doubt that the victims had guns inside, as most night clubs and bars do not allow any weapons, and according to the report I remember, the shooter attacked bouncers/door people to gain initial access. My original point is that civilians carrying guns would be dangerous in a panic situation. This was bad, but if there were a bunch of civilians running around with guns it would be worse.
drakesdoom ago
Every actual situation where civilians had guns the incident was over in less then a minute long before cops arrived. The gun man would have died just inside the doors if he was lucky.