Thimerosal and aluminum hydroxide are used as vaccine activators. Those activators provoke the immune system which then searches for the cause and hopefully focuses on the vaccine elements. But if other foreign elements like pollen are present the immune system may focus on them, and we get a nice pollen allergy. An allergy is an overreacting immune system.
Maybe we should not vaccinate our kids in times with high pollen concentrations. Your thoughts?
view the rest of the comments →
gazillions ago
Since this in conspiracy here's one for you. Why is it white people who think letting their kid die from disease is better than vaccinating them? Add to that the idea of euthanasia as a white thing. Few others are crying out for it. Abortions are mainly white and black unless it's sex selective abortion coming from one of the cultures that kills girls anyway.
ZenAtheist ago
Nobody dies of chicken pox, but the pharmaceutical industry doctors are pushing a vaccine for that now. We stopped vaccinating against small pox over here before it was eradicate worldwide, but we still vaccinate against polio even when the the only way you're going to get polio here is from a bad vaccine. If you think there isn't industry collusion with the government, then you're naive.
gazillions ago
Chicken pox and it's residual, shingles blinds or kills very few. Some, but few. Pregnant women can pass it to the fetus and brain damage and other mutations happen. Again few. It only matters if it's your fetus that gets it. Then those people become tragically alarmed.
lostnewbie ago
All the diseases we vaccinate for are rare in their most traumatic form. Vaccines are one of the most obvious places where the mind control manipulation of history is so evident. Polio was never, statistically speaking, the scourge that many vaccine advocates like to invoke. Neither was smallpox, unless you were a native north american in the 1600s and the best evidence I've seen is that the reason the people's of the western hemisphere were so susceptible to European diseases was because they didn't practice much animal agriculture (source of most human disease) but did live in a parasite rich environment which meant that their immune systems were geared to parasites and not diseases.
gazillions ago
No. Just no.
lostnewbie ago
you want to show any evidence or just more shill shit from you? here's some numbers from a pro vax website. At it's peak polio infected less than 60,000 americans at a time when there were approximately 153,000,000 americans. That is around 4 hundredths of a percent or about 4 cases per 10,000 people. The peak death rate was around the same time (early 50s) and killed fewer than 3500 hundred americans. So it killed something like 2 people per 100,000. I don't see how that is a serious threat to anyone?
gazillions ago
You really don't know what a shill is, so why would anyone stupidly believe you know anything else? Dying from polio is and was the least of a polio victims problems.
lostnewbie ago
getting polio is the least of most people's problems. At it's peak it was infecting 4 people per 10,000 and the vast majority of polio cases were not much more than inconvenient flu-like symptoms. But yeah, considering that only 5 people per 100,000 that got polio would die I suppose you could say dieing would be a small worry. That's exactly my point. And you're a shill because you propagate noisy fear monger nonsense with no evidence. Please direct me to anything at all that indicates that vaccines solve anything. I'm open to information, but all of my own investigating (fresh, i have a child that is almost a year old and live in california where not vaccinating will mean that i cannot send them to licensed child care or public school) has shown me that vaccines are not worth the risk when you are dealing with a healthy child
gazillions ago
You're out of your mind you know. You probably shouldn't be living around people at all.
lostnewbie ago
your inability to respond with any sort of argument rooted in any kind of logic is the most telling evidence I could provide. Please please please show me something at all that would even suggest that vaccinating a child is a good idea
gazillions ago
There's no getting through tosomeone like you. You know what herd immunity is and you do not care. Because of the civil breakdown, there's bern reoccurrences of polio in Syria. You do not care. It isn't your kid being infected yet so it simply doesn't exist enough in your reality to matter. You'll sit in your cat bird seat feeling all smug and smarter than all those stupid experts who are obviously trying to get one over on you. Until your kid catches something.
lostnewbie ago
total straw man arguments. Of course it's sad that people get diseases, that children get diseases, that people suffer at all. All I've asked from you is to provide some evidence that vaccination is a statistically meaningful mode of prevention. What do you think herd immunity means? The lowest vaccination rates on the west coast by county are in the high 80 percent range. Most communities have more than 90% immunization and yet we still see occasional outbreaks. I don't think these experts are trying to get one over I just think they are acting within the paradigm they exist in and I think there are some fundamental mistakes at the root of it.
Unless you have any actual evidence that vaccines are statistically meaningful preventions of these diseases then I just have to say good luck to you and hopefully all of our loved ones can avoid disease and live full happy lives