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xeemee ago

never noticed this before...

ref: Evidence of Revision 5 of 5 - MK ULTRA and the Jonestown Massacre - YouTube

these two segments are from two different documentaries...

@1:04:50, Dwyer is "mistaken" for Ryan - they say that Ryan goes over to shake the pilots hand, but that's not Ryan, it's Dwyer - how does one make such a huge mistake? that's near impossible

@1:05:30 - this time the event is represented accurately - Dwyer talks to the pilot, not Ryan

Grifter42 ago

Keep puling the threads, man. You're on the right track.

xeemee ago

spill the beans - what do you know?

my theory at this point is that Jones may have started out exactly as the mainstream version says; a somewhat fucked-up dude who truly wanted to help people - but at some point the church was co-opted by the CIA in order to experiment with how to control a population

i think Leo was seen as an opportunity only after he decided to visit Jonestown - i.e. the CIA took advantage of a chance happening to eliminate a threat to the CIA

the killing of Leo led to the closure of the op because of the public attention his death drew which, actually, i might guess that the CIA got what they needed out of Jonestown before Leo arrived, so nothing was really lost

then again, i might be entirely fucking wrong

Grifter42 ago

You're pretty much exactly right.

xeemee ago

i had to wait 27 days for that?

Grifter42 ago

I was incredibly drunk when I wrote that.

Then again, I've been drunker.

xeemee ago

i will issue my decision as to whether to forgive you after you tell me what you were were drinking

Grifter42 ago

I forget what I was drinking. But about Jonestown, there's a lot of weird shit involving Dan Mitrione. That, and Doctor Laurence Laird Layton.