Posted yesterday to Reddit: https://archive.is/KxaBU
All information can be found compiled with lists of associations on The #Pizzagate Wiki's Stratfor page, but their elite seemed to have insider knowledge of the event according to releases on Wikileaks: http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor
Here are the emails in question, the first being perhaps the most damning:
http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Re:_OBL.27s_corpse
http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_OBL
http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_Body_bound_for_Dover.2C_DE_on_CIA_plane
Direct links to archive.is and original versions of the relevant Wikileaks emails:
https://archive.is/Az8Ii / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097638_re-obl-s-corpse-.html
https://archive.is/bZtjD / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/1752178_re-obl-s-corpse-.html
https://archive.is/SvoDU / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1094322_-alpha-obl-.html
https://archive.is/tUJff / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1092275_-alpha-obl-.html
https://archive.is/5j3QA / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097856_-alpha-obl-.html
https://archive.is/MO7fm / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/11/1102718_-alpha-body-bound-for-dover-de-on-cia-plane-.html
Updates:
All email screenshots on Imgur: http://imgur.com/a/fcSzR
From http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Personnel_and_relevant_emails_by_hierarchy :
George Friedman, founder and CEO
Fred Burton is Vice President for Intelligence, and sent most of the information on "OBL"
I made a timeframe of Fred Burton's communications for those who seem unsure of his confidence in the situation:
2011-05-02 05:26:15 Fred Burton: "Reportedly, we took the body with us. Thank goodness."
2011-05-02 05:33:15 Fred Burton: "We told the Pakis after we killed him. But, will praise GOP publicly. All spin and bullshit."
2011-05-02 05:47:25 Fred Burton: "Raymond Davis operation was related to the case. CIA unilateral source in Paki worked without the Pakis knowledge."
2011-05-02 05:51:12 Fred Burton: "Than onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda."
2011-05-02 13:36:41 Fred Burton: "Body is Dover bound, should be here by now. "
I should mention that Osama bin Laden was "officially" killed around 0100 PKT on May 2, which would have been 1400 on May 1 in Austin (where Stratfor is based). These timestamps suggest this chain of emails uses PKT (Pakistan Standard Time) or some nearby timezone, possibly hinting at where Stratfor was operating that day as the emails were sent from BlackBerry phones.
Bonus reading:
Raymond Allen Davis incident: http://pizzagate.wiki/CIA_(Central_Intelligence_Agency)#Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident
Two sister companies also involved in illegal, dishonest, and suspicious intelligence activity:
http://pizzagate.wiki/Deagel
http://pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp
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EngelbertHumperdinck ago
He wasn't on the same ship. He has no more insight into this event than any of us. He's trying to use his military experience as some kind of evidence that his hunches are correct.
oedipusaurus_rex ago
The CIC of the ship I was on is the tactical center for the strike fleet. The Enterprise was the flagship of the carrier fleet, not to mention the flagship of the strike group. That means that the complete tactical situation for the fifth fleet was known in the CIC. I was two seats to the right of the TAO, working on the ships defense systems. That means that I had a very good seat for the show.
What I did see:
There was a military flight out of Pakistan that wasn't authorized by Pakistan. Under international law, this alone is an act of war. This flight rendezvoused with the Carl Vinson.
As soon as this flight was over, the call went out that we got Bin Laden.
Here's what I know not from the CIC:
The party line, that Bin Laden was assassinated in Abbottabad Pakistan in a raid that was illegal and an act of war under international law.
Pakistan didn't declare war, or even ask for reparations for our blatant act of war against them.
We had enough dirt on Pakistan that we were able to declare war on them, go into their country, crash a top secret helecopter, then blow it up using high explosives, shoot up a house and kill a bunch of people, then leave the country and accuse them of harboring terrorists that attacked the US and get away with it.
The only thing that I can imagine would allow us to get away with this (not just with Pakistan, but with the Hague) is the capture of Bin Laden in Abbottabad actually occurring.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
Keyword: imagine
oedipusaurus_rex ago
So you don't actually have anything to say then?
We're obviously on different pages. You're going to have to elucidate any points you are wanting to make. You can't just infer that you have a point and then not make it. Keep up.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
My point is that you are claiming to know something that you cannot prove. You assume that because of your position in the command center of some ship, that nobody could carry out a clandestine operation without your knowledge.
oedipusaurus_rex ago
Your point is wrong then.
What I said is that due to my vantage point during the operation the chain of events proposed in this thread is definitely what happened. Beyond that all I am saying is that the official story is much more likely than CIA agents mind controlling a carrier strike fleet in the Indian Ocean where it is within strike range of 3 or 4 countries that we're not allied with. It's also more likely than the US invading another country with an armed military force, killing civilians and then flying out and having nothing bad come from it in the UN.
Occam's Razor man. There is too much going on here that can be explained by simpler explanations. I disagree with @AllOutOfBubblegum on this, but his explanation is at least plausible. You need to think this through some more, and pay more attention to the details. I'm not necessarily saying that I'm correct, I'm just saying that you definitely aren't.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
Ok. How about this for Occam's Razor?
OBL was a bogeyman/scapegoat ever since 9/11. He was widely reported to have been on dialysis in the early 2000s. Mossad agent, Rita Katz and her SITE intelligence group released fake videos using a different actor playing OBL to keep the narrative going. It was reported several times over the years that he was killed in action. No actual video of him had been seen for many years prior to the Abbottabad raid. The white house released a photo of Obama and his staff in the 'situation room' allegedly watching the raid. The photo was proven fake when Leon Panetta said that there was no live feed during the raid. No footage of the alleged raid was ever released that could positively identify Bin Laden. The original official story was admittedly full of lies, and was officially revised weeks later. No body was ever produced and no photos of the body were ever released. In other similar cases, we were shown the body, Hussein and Gaddafi for example. Conclusion: FAKE.
I don't know where you got the scenario that 'CIA agents mind controlled a carrier strike fleet'. If it was between that nonsensical straw man and the official story, I could see why you would believe the latter.
oedipusaurus_rex ago
Let me get this straight. You're going to go with "there is no death photo of OBL ." You're not going to go with "the photo was faked."?
Is that correct?
Do me a favor.
Go to duckduckgo.com
in the search bar type in
"osama bin laden death photo"
Hit enter.
click on images.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't seen any of those images before. In the future, I will definitely say the photos are fake, rather than say they weren't released. But that minor detail doesn't really change my argument much.
By the way, is there one particular photo that you think is the real one? Because I see photos showing different wounds, apparent ages, and clothing.
oedipusaurus_rex ago
I figured as much.
There are a couple of photos, but given that you're just looking to call bullshit I'm not going to waste my time with it.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
No problem. Thanks for the chat.