The #Pizzagate Wiki finds evidence of confirmed conspiracy: Osama bin Laden wasn't buried at sea (Conspiracy)

submitted ago by RebelSkum

Posted yesterday to Reddit: https://archive.is/KxaBU

All information can be found compiled with lists of associations on The #Pizzagate Wiki's Stratfor page, but their elite seemed to have insider knowledge of the event according to releases on Wikileaks: http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor

Here are the emails in question, the first being perhaps the most damning:

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Re:_OBL.27s_corpse

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_OBL

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_Body_bound_for_Dover.2C_DE_on_CIA_plane

Direct links to archive.is and original versions of the relevant Wikileaks emails:

https://archive.is/Az8Ii / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097638_re-obl-s-corpse-.html

https://archive.is/bZtjD / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/1752178_re-obl-s-corpse-.html

https://archive.is/SvoDU / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1094322_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/tUJff / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1092275_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/5j3QA / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097856_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/MO7fm / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/11/1102718_-alpha-body-bound-for-dover-de-on-cia-plane-.html

Updates:

All email screenshots on Imgur: http://imgur.com/a/fcSzR

From http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Personnel_and_relevant_emails_by_hierarchy :

George Friedman, founder and CEO

Fred Burton is Vice President for Intelligence, and sent most of the information on "OBL"

I made a timeframe of Fred Burton's communications for those who seem unsure of his confidence in the situation:

2011-05-02 05:26:15 Fred Burton: "Reportedly, we took the body with us. Thank goodness."

2011-05-02 05:33:15 Fred Burton: "We told the Pakis after we killed him. But, will praise GOP publicly. All spin and bullshit."

2011-05-02 05:47:25 Fred Burton: "Raymond Davis operation was related to the case. CIA unilateral source in Paki worked without the Pakis knowledge."

2011-05-02 05:51:12 Fred Burton: "Than onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda."

2011-05-02 13:36:41 Fred Burton: "Body is Dover bound, should be here by now. "

I should mention that Osama bin Laden was "officially" killed around 0100 PKT on May 2, which would have been 1400 on May 1 in Austin (where Stratfor is based). These timestamps suggest this chain of emails uses PKT (Pakistan Standard Time) or some nearby timezone, possibly hinting at where Stratfor was operating that day as the emails were sent from BlackBerry phones.

Bonus reading:

Raymond Allen Davis incident: http://pizzagate.wiki/CIA_(Central_Intelligence_Agency)#Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident

Two sister companies also involved in illegal, dishonest, and suspicious intelligence activity:

http://pizzagate.wiki/Deagel

http://pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp

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samhara ago

You guys believe whatever you want. I'm really not working on the f***ing old news.

But really, the emails confirm what everyone I know, already knew.

If you don't get it, I can not help you with that. Everyone finds out someday, I suppose.. Or then, sometimes they don't,

But in any case, I found the citation : Obama stonewalls SEAL Team 6 helicopter crash probe, watchdog says

SEAL team 6 was said to be the team which "carried it out."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/5/obama-stonewalls-seal-team-6-extortion-17-helicopt/

Apparently members of the team were killed, less than one year after the "event," in a crash. And then another helicopter crash killed the suppsed leader .. - http://www.today.com/id/44106253/ns/today-today_news/t/pentagon-names-americans-killed-downed-afghan-chopper/ -

Obama and them must be hobbled , having the brainwashed/ i.e. people who are being lied to, carrying out their orders? No wonder things go wrong

I remember this from 5 years ago and so I can't prove they changed the story .. But I remember that the news did change. It's first came out that they were all killed. Then it was air-brushed, for obvious reasons.

Konran ago

As far as I'm aware it is a myth that the squadron that killed 'OBL' or his look-a-likey was wiped out in a later CH47 helicopter shoot down. Seal Team 6 is organized into assault and support squadrons that are color coded. Neptune Spear (the 'OBL' assault) was executed by Red Squadron. The 22 operators who were killed in the CH47 incident were apparently assigned to Gold Squadron.

samhara ago

That was claimed after the fact . Add that to a slew of lies by the State News / State. Life is too short to list them all.

Often the news that comes out right around an event is more telling as to the real situation, than after it's gets tweeked by the spin doctors.

Everyone knows, in any case, that there was no "Obama" there.. So who really "killed him" or "captured him" is really a moot point. From "Veteran's Today" Auguest 6th 2011

Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

The chances of this story being true is almost nil. The chances of this being a staged coverup is over 80%. We believe these people were murdered to silence them. This is why.

We have solid information on two areas:

Osama bin Laden died in 2001 as an active CIA employee and his body was recovered in Afghanistan and taken to “the sand box.” We were told it was frozen. We have so much verification from this, CIA, ISI, US military and top officials. I have a direct confirmation from Bin Laden’s CIA handler who I grilled mercilessly on this. The Abbottabad operation involved numerous American deaths, witnessed, bodies all over, a helicopter crash. (suppressed translated TV interview below) These bodies were recovered by land vehicle from Islamabad and there was NO “successful” bin Laden operation of any kind. There was and has been a CIA safe house in Abbotabad where terror suspects were stored for years. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/06/breaking-news-bin-laden-troops-probably-murderered-to-keep-them-quiet/

Bush Knew Bin Laden Murdered in 2001 | Veterans Today http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/05/bush-knew-bin-laden-murdered-in-2001/ Bin Laden Bull, Save Us From Blowhards http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/09/bin-laden-bull-save-us-from-blowhards/

Let’s talk about the Abbottabad farce. We have a long dead and horrifically sick man, often treated in American hospitals, supposedly watching a small TV where he had been in a “safe house.”

You pick the story, he leaps up, grabs an AK, pulls a defenseless woman in front of him as a human shield, and dies in a hail of gunfire, just like Bonnie and Clyde.

Of course, we see scraps of a stealth helicopter all over and get reports of 6 American dead, in fact more Americans than the one helicopter could hold.

The original plan was to set up a forward operating base in Pakistan, drive up supplies and fuel. They flew in the short range stealth helicopter, landing it in Pakistan. When it hit a stone fence and caught fire, killing the crew and most occupants, they abandoned that plan. The real plan was to capture bin Laden, fly him to the refueling base and then off to Bagram Air Force Base.

As to who or what they planned for “show and tell” as bin Laden, we can only guess. The Israeli’s had been dealing with phony bin Laden’s for years. With no bin Laden, a cover story had to be invented, the magic flight across a continent in a “stealth” flying “garbage truck,” the CH53 Sea Stallion.

It gets better, the flight to a carrier in the Indian ocean. You see, the stealth helicopter was gone. There was no way to get from there to the Indian Ocean. The story gets better. Try to find out about Pakistan’s air defense systems. Go ahead. Pakistan supposedly wasn’t able to detect the stealth helicopter that flew in from Afghanistan. However, the multiple CH53’s that would have had to make the 1300 kilometer flight would have had a problem or two.

How does this relate to "Pizzagate" / The extent of the Propaganda is formidable. Anyone who studies Pizzagate need to understand the authorities lie.

You don't find that out until they lie about you and yours. There are people who keep tabs regardless.

Konran ago

My friend, in general I believe all what you quote/say, although I will always have my doubts about certain specific details. In this world of false narrative and disinformation I do not ever feel we understand what truly happens 100% of the time.

All secondhand information is basically hearsay. However, there are times when we must generally accept the expert opinion (physics, chemistry, surgery, geology, etc.), but in others we must always question more (politics, economics, psychology, climate, etc.).

[EDIT: Clarity]

samhara ago

The subject of 'proof" and 100% certainty is a philosophical and epistomological subject and discussion.

It's important to understand the tools used to separate truth from fiction. It's a science of knowlege, which is lost.

This knowledge is used by the designers of our present system to fool the average person. (the tools are inverted and used to disguise the truth rather than reveal it)

Most people are never taught the ancient subject field of separating truth from fiction.

They are taught instead to rely upon "experts" which is just one fatal error, but a central one.

In fact they are taught that truth / reality doesn't exist.. ie. "There is no truth but what you think" "Everyone has their own truth; they create their own truth" "Nothing is real" "False memories" And on from there.

All that New Age and "modern" philosophy is promoted for a very specific reason; to dominate those who are fooled.

It's a lot of work to get up to speed on this subject. I will try to add more citations.

Start with the "History of FM Radio" and Mind Control and Psychobiology of Music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1n5Hfy_dCg This whole issue is a vast subject, no doubt.

"Expert" opinion is bullshit.. Think for yourself. Most "experts' mind are conditioned; and so is the public, deliberately. http://www.gnosticmedia.com/how-darwin-huxley-and-the-esalen-institute-launched-the-2012-and-psychedelic-revolutions-and-began-one-of-the-largest-mind-control-operations-in-history/

There are scores of hours of research, backed up by citations and documentation, showing the efforts put into social engineering / cultural engineering.

That is called persuasion and mind control. How is that done? Through 'experts"

If people believed the "experts" they would say "Pizzagate" is fake news" since that's what the experts say.

"Experts" by reputaton are not valid sources; people must go to the primary material themselves. To understand what is going on it is necessary to think "outside the box"

It's a "fence" of perception, put all around us to keep us under control i.e. Propaganda; the notion that only the "experts" know for sure. And that we need to go along with what they tell us, keeps us fenced in a trap.

Those who intend to mis-lead are desperate to have us depend upon their "experts" . from "Snopes" on down [or up, as the case may be]

Here is a citation to a reference in regard to the corruption of information sources: "What I finally Understood" - http://mileswmathis.com/guru.pdf -

This is what I finally understood: all famous people are there to misdirect you. ALL OF THEM. They didn't accidentally get famous. They don't accidentally get on TV or in movies or in books or on CDs or on the internet. And they certainly don't earn their way into these positions, as is now clear. So how did they get there? Why do you have to see them and hear them all the time? Why do you know who they are? Because they were placed there. They were chosen to fill that position, and they were chosen in order to misdirect you from the truth. You will say, “C'mon, Miles, that can't be true. All of them? I mean, they disagree with eachother. How can they all be placed there?” Look at it this way: say you wanted to control everyone in the world. Well, people are at different levels. They have different interests and beliefs and levels of intelligence. So if you want to control everyone, you have to place your guys at all these levels, on all possible paths. If you are a football coach setting up a defense on the field, you don't put all your tacklers in the middle of the field, or all on one side. You spread them out. You want to block all possible paths to the goal. You have to defend against the run and the pass, the short ball and the long ball.

What you are promoting with the "expert" knowledge. is "idiot - ology":

"Any dead body of knowledge that passes as professional expertise; professional "wisdom" forced upon "outsiders" by the experts of fooldom, frequently taking the form or patronizing and even lethal advice and prescriptions. i.e. "advise"

Also "proof is in the pudding" - I am an "expert" in 9/11 having spent over 10 years and over 10K house studying it. I am such an "expert" that no one can understand what I'm saying most of the time since they don't have the framework / background.

At the root of much ignorance is assumptions and beliefs which are un-examined and are taken as true because the ""experts" couldn't all be wrong, could they?"

If there is an incorrect believe / assumption, which is strongly held, for the instance re: "Pizzagate" : "Rodham Clinton would never hurt a child" Well then, no matter how much evidence there is, it will not help "prove" that she is hurting a child.. That is already "off the table"

And they will make excuses "to the moon" - to deny it and to make you out as "crazy"

"It's an old story: What you drink is your own imagination"

If your imagination does not allow something, even if it is true, you will never see it.

EngelbertHumperdinck ago

I remember all of this too. Also, I remember all the videos taken at the scene in Abbottabad where the neighbors all say that they knew the inhabitants of that building and there was no way OBL was ever inside.

And don't forget the stealth helicopter that crashed on the scene during the raid. There were photos of that at the time as well.