I have been in the realm of researching conspiracies for almost 10 years.
You might think that the most controversial conspiracies would involve UFOs, 9/11, the pope, the queen or the US president, that it would involve wars or secret societies like the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) or Freemasonry, but you would be wrong. These things are not really censored and you can research them easily. I guess TPTB don't mind the masses finding this information as it just make the reader seem like a crazy person. (It does not mean these things are not true)
Pizzagate is now exposing the fact that child trafficking amongst elite groups is a VERY sensitive subject, so much so that you are now witnessing a fully organised attack on alternative media. We will all agree that pizzagate is controversial, but in my experience, these are EVEN MORE controversial than pizzagate. Go figure. I wonder why though lol
- Alex Jones is Bill Hicks
- The earth is flat
- Switzerland was founded by knights templar who were descendants of pharaos
I am willing to discuss these subject with anyone who is open minded and willing to participate in an exchange of ideas and arguments in a constructive manners.
Do you have a conspiracy that is so controversial that is was censored as bad as pizzagate?
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1trizz ago
I think pizza gate is controversial because of the media bias against it, if it wasn't for that, I don't think it would be controversial for people to be doing independent research into a possible pedophile ring that involves government insiders. I do think the idea of a hollow earth inhabited by giants, dislocated Nazis, mammoths and other extinct animals with the exit/entrances at the north and south pole (areas that are blacked out on google earth and that are illegal to fly over) is more controversial than the idea of a flat earth that can be debunked by simply looking at the moon and reasoning that most heavenly bodies are generally spherical in shape.
wizlord ago
About that reasoning: Let me ask you an honest question: If you would wake up naked and attached on the mast of some kind of ship or something, at sea, and you would see 3 destroyers floating in front of you, would you assume you are attached on the mast of a destroyer?
1trizz ago
hmm, I don't know? I don't think it would be unreasonable to think I was on a 'destroyer?' but I definitely would think that whatever I was floating on was 'boat' shaped because that's what gives marine vessels the ability to float on water.
wizlord ago
It is definitely not unreasonable, but then again in no way is it a guaranteed guess. What I'm saying here is that we cannot say the earth is a globe only because we see circular/spherical shapes in the sky. Now lets discuss the other points. The moon. You mean that moon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CCJxF7nIcM
1trizz ago
ive done some youtube research on the moon before and heard evidence that the moon is an artificial object placed there for the benefit of earth. evidence like the moons surface being metal and that the moon rang like a bell for an hour when the lunar lander piece crashed back to the surface. and in the math (sorry I cant remember the specifics) of the distance from the earth to the moon, the sun to the earth being equally devisable. I think the idea is compelling along with the idea that we didn't even go to the moon or maybe we did but the footage that we got to see was staged. that being said, in regards to this video, in the absence of another video showing the same phenomena and speaking as someone who is into photography as a hobby, the artifact looks like camera shake from a camera on a tripod. cant speculate on the possible 'ufo' in the beginning of the video though
wizlord ago
Also you mentionned the moon as being beneficial to the earth. I've read about the opposite too. The moon could be an artifact left there to fuck up the garden of Eden by distorting the "pure" waves of potential coming from saturn and turning them into SIN waves thus leeaving us born into sin. There is this possibility that the moon is the light that we see at the end of our life and that it is some kind of machine that can put your soul back into a new body so that the machine can keep working.
wizlord ago
Right. Forget the UFO, the idea here is that this video IS historic like the guy claims and has NEVER been refuted or debunked by anyone with credible authority in photographs. Also, it has been replicated 3 times he talks about it on his channel. 3 other people in different states have come forward. There is a video where you can see all the anomalies I will try to find it. Anyway to you have ANY reason AT ALL to believe that you live on a ball that spins and flies in the universe at extreme speeds and that the atmosphere is somehow glued to this ball because you know ... gravity ... even though it it flying around in a vacuum... yes a vacuum that should be sucking the atmosphere away, but nooooooo, you know, gravity. right. MSM says so.
1trizz ago
if you find other videos showing the same phenomena, I would be very interested. the problem about the moon being a hologram (assuming we are not living in the matrix) is tht a hologram is essentially a projection. where is the projection coming from? cant be coming from earth because its spinning (idk if you believe this or not) , cant becoming from the area of the moon because it needs to be far enough away to project the entirety of the moon. we can observe asteroids and meteors, if something like that flew in between the projector and the projection it would be easily observable and the closer to the projector the bigger the shadow would be. also a hologram needs to be projected onto something, imagine going to a laser light show with no fog machine, it wouldn't look that impressive. do you have a counter theory in terms of the earth being flat and the atmosphere thinning the further you go out. ive seen video of a guy going up in a balloon really high to where the atmosphere is thin and jumps/parachutes out. ive seen this same video used to argue for the flat earth because you cant see the earths curvature
wizlord ago
Thank you for engaging me in an honest discussion about this. Flat earth is THE MOST sensitive subject, even more than pizzagate. Pizzagate involves kings eating babies, but flat earth means you were dumb enough to believe this shit and so were all your ancestors...its just too much for most people. Cognitive dissonance you know. The first thing we learn is 1+1=2 then we learn that the earth is a globe. These are the 2 certitudes on which our whole world view is constructed. Then you remember these times where you would look at the globe in your classroom and just think of how small you were compared to the world, how much there is to discover, how great your predecessor were to discover and map all this globe. Ahh yes great times. Anyone who dares to question this is IMMEDIATELY ridiculed into oblivion. Makes you wonder no?
Yes so back to the subject at hand, the moon.
Here is the clip where we see 10 occurences of this weird phenomenon. Not all are filmed with the same cam and same cameraman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUGxysKSGEM
Now where the projector could be: Some have dared to answer that Saturn or Venus could be a projector. We are entering the realm of VERY WILD theories but I like it.
Did you see my edit on my other reply? OCS101? illuminatimatrix? Mandela effect?
1trizz ago
I will say that its compelling to see all of this video evidence,but digital cameras can be weird. do you know anything about the moire camera effect. I only really know about it because ive been looking at buying a Fujifilm camera that uses a special x-trans sensor to combat it. the most interesting evidence ,to me anyway, was the curvature in the wave. that would imply that the moons image is projected onto a curved surface. ive know of the mandela effect and when it was re-popularized with the bearenstein bears debate. illuminatimatrix is one of those philosophical debates similar to "is any thing real", "is my whole life a dream/a lie" "is the whole universe and everyone and everything I interact with created for me. its kind of a dues ex machine, its a fun debate, but with no possible way to get evidence for it, I usually leav it alone. I couldn't find a whole lot of info about ocs101 just now, could you tell me more
wizlord ago
By the way, yes I am familiar with the Moire effect. I have a bachelor degree in software engineering and have worked for companies like Boeing, le Cirque du Soleil, Canadiens de Montreal, CAE...
wizlord ago
I have more about the moon that was just to get things started. If you are really willing to discover the wonders of flat earth I can point you in the right direction. Know that there is a lot of disinfo on this subject as it is THE MOST controversial of all. You might not find the right info on your own.
Mandella effect is cool because I like philosophy, but I wounder where this is going plus MSM is talking about it so Im thinking it must be some kind of satanic shit theyre putting on us.
By the way, illuminatimatrix is the name of a site handled by Brian Kemila, not what you are referring to. His work is AMAZING to say the least, but I am warning anyone who dare to delve into this shit: You have to have an extremely open mind to get into this stuff and be willing to throw everything you know out the window. You are in for one hell of a ride. It's like Alice goes down the rabbit hole and finds a warp hole to god. You have to start at page 1 and read that page like 3 times before moving to the next one. There is 100 pages on his site.
https://illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com/its-all-in-our-mind-the-light-bringers-eliminating-the-illuminators-2/
OCS101 was a pionneer in the Saturn research. RIP. He is very missed on youtube. He started his own site...things are pretty hard to find. His stuff is hard to understand if you are new. If you really want to know more, and you don't mond the intense cussing and talking to his birds, go on his site, look at some stuff, do something else, come back, do that for a week. You will not believe it. His stuff is the best around.
http://theocs101ark.com/
1trizz ago
if you got more on the moon, ill take it. I think the mandella effect might be used in the msm to promote their 'fake news'. in the absence of a real mendalla effect (remembering a different timeline or a different dimensions timeline) it can be used to gaslight people into remembering history the wrong way. why are so many people sympathetic to castro dying( not accounting for the rise in communisms popularity due to Bernie sanders). he who controls the past, controls the future. I'm into that occult Saturn/satan research, thanks for the links, illuminatimatrix seems like a lot of info to dig thru but on the surface it looks like its worth it. am I navigating the ocs101ark site correctly? it looks like only a handful of stuff is on there with the earliest being from the 7th, only a few days ago. I don't have time to dig through all this gold right now but I'm excited to get to all the new stuff. I have to let you go, I don't know where your at but its 3am for me and I only have a couple hours to finish up the work that ive been slacking on all night, and I want to get home on time and hopefully before the sun comes up. thank you, it was good having this conversation with someone who can talk about fringe theories and be rational too. if you want to keep it going, ill check back tomorrow evening after I wake up
wizlord ago
Bill OCS101 often deletes all his videos. If you want to learn, look at some of his vids, say 2-3 video, then go do something else. Come back 3 days later and do it again. Just listen, absorb the material even if it doesn't make sense. Do that for a month and come back to me. I guarantee you will question your own sanity.
wizlord ago
I'm always willing to discuss this stuff it was nice having this discussion. I might seem a bit stuburn sometimes but trust me, the thing that makes me the happier is when I learn that I was wrong on something.