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Sciency ago

Very true, Mr. puppet. VPNs are great for privacy from companies, as is TOR. If a VPN happens to be based pretty much anywhere besides the Netherlands, theres a good chance the NSA has the legal right to request any and all records they want.

So basically what I'm saying is the best you can hope for with government surveillance is to slow them down. There's really no stopping a motivated and talented network tech in this day and age, at least not at my skill level.