Climate damage is still real. Keep downvoating without responding. I'm from the great lakes region and it used to be in winter you could drive a truck across the ice all winter long. To ice fish, to get to the islands, whatever. You can't do any of that for even one month anymore.
You're just a bunch of children butt hurt over the details. Of course we were lied to about climate change, it's deliberate. Climate change is deliberate. They don't want us knowing the real causes. That's why we only ever talk about carbon when it isn't even the leading problematic element in the equation.
Stop being mad that you're all too poor and stupid to be given the truth and look around and find it yourself.
There is tall damage, but it is calculated and deliberate. Giving a fuck about what comes out of the mouths of puppets is still giving a fuck about something they want us to pay attention to.
Pay attention to real details, not the obviously fake ones that you can jerk off to for being smart enough to tell they're fake.
Does one need to see gravity to know it is there? If it was obvious we wouldn't be talking about nonsense.
One other big bad element in the equation is methane. Which no one discusses in length despite it being far more dense and prevalent in our industries.
I obviously don't have all the answers, but it doesn't take peer reviewed research to make a simple and obvious observation over your life time.
I have a theory that the heat up is deliberate to unlock the resources under the poles. Thus the half assed effort at preventing the third most problematic element from being too prevalent(carbon).
A great way to access new land, and simultaneously have a great excuse to 'accidentally' have a good chunk of the obsolete masses die off as the worlds oceans rise and change the livable landscape for humans.
You basically said nothing. Maybe make a point that doesn't require you to pick apart my statements individually.
Individually those sentences are weak. But the body of their meaning is avoided when you copy and paste like you're proud to have just graduated kindergarten.
I'm speaking from my experience in living next to the biggest bodies of fresh water in the world. So excuse me for simply putting my observations out there.
In living next to very large swamp, and great lakes regions, I grew up being bitten, by insects and frost, like my parents, and theirs before them. That has gone away. It doesn't get cold enough to drive a truck across the lakes anymore. There are less insects, and the ones that remain seem lethargic and slow in comparison to their ancestors.
Again, How many huge bodies of matter do I have to notice change in before you can get over the fact that climate change has been politicized. Something being a political tool does not make that something imaginary.
I can have a theory and it be wrong, it literally is just another opportunity to learn. But I'm sure you've looked under the glaciers and seen for yourself.
I have the proof that I have. My observations are one piece of a puzzle. You can ignore that, since it would be easier for your world view, or you can take it for what it is; my and my families experience living next to a once a very robust seasonal area, that is suddenly not very robust.
Get fucked, you worthless sack of shit. You have no argument.
Land “readings” are diverging from satellite data (which NASA itself says is accurate and should be the standard instead) because over 40% of land “readings” are estimates made for places without recording equipment.
To illustratively do something that the psychopaths love to do, I’ll cherrypick the last 20 years to show that there has been no warming there, despite CO2 continuing to rise. Even using just the satellite record, the world isn’t warming. If we refer back to one of the hottest years in recorded history, we see the difference.
“Waaaaa! What about the ice caps!”
They’re not melting. They go through cycles. 1974 had less ice than today. Oh, and don’t listen to what scientists say, whatever you do. Nowhere is melting out of turn, not even Greenland (where it has been growing for something like 30 years).
“But the sea level is rising!”
It has been rising for 13,000 years. In that time, it has never risen more slowly than right now. Were our ancestors belching out CO2 faster than we were? Maybe they were farting a lot more. Or maybe you just believe in complete bullshit. It’s rising more slowly than at any time in that history, and it’s also rising more slowly than any claim made public by any outlet. Here’s the source data for that chart. It’s an FTP link, so it should automatically download the raw file (which you don’t need to worry about; it’s a bunch of undifferentiated numbers). Turns out that NOAA marks the average as 0.63 mm per year. Not 3.3. Not 2.8. Certainly not a foot per year, which is needed for the most modern public “predictions” about this bullshit.
“Okay, not ice caps, but what about the glaciers?”
They’ve been melting since at least the 1780s when we started measuring them. I also have information for the Alps and other areas. Was our pre-industrial civilization responsible for “greenhouse gases” too?
“But but but but but but but but muh consensus! They agree! Because I say so! That makes what they say true!”
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Sameblamegame ago
Climate damage is still real. Keep downvoating without responding. I'm from the great lakes region and it used to be in winter you could drive a truck across the ice all winter long. To ice fish, to get to the islands, whatever. You can't do any of that for even one month anymore.
You're just a bunch of children butt hurt over the details. Of course we were lied to about climate change, it's deliberate. Climate change is deliberate. They don't want us knowing the real causes. That's why we only ever talk about carbon when it isn't even the leading problematic element in the equation.
Stop being mad that you're all too poor and stupid to be given the truth and look around and find it yourself.
There is tall damage, but it is calculated and deliberate. Giving a fuck about what comes out of the mouths of puppets is still giving a fuck about something they want us to pay attention to.
Pay attention to real details, not the obviously fake ones that you can jerk off to for being smart enough to tell they're fake.
EIMR ago
...Then what are the real causes?
Sameblamegame ago
Does one need to see gravity to know it is there? If it was obvious we wouldn't be talking about nonsense.
One other big bad element in the equation is methane. Which no one discusses in length despite it being far more dense and prevalent in our industries.
I obviously don't have all the answers, but it doesn't take peer reviewed research to make a simple and obvious observation over your life time.
I have a theory that the heat up is deliberate to unlock the resources under the poles. Thus the half assed effort at preventing the third most problematic element from being too prevalent(carbon).
A great way to access new land, and simultaneously have a great excuse to 'accidentally' have a good chunk of the obsolete masses die off as the worlds oceans rise and change the livable landscape for humans.
Tallest_Skil ago
Thanks for confirming you have absolutely no argument whatsoever.
Nonsense like AGW, right. Which isn’t happening.
Because they know it has nothing to do with the discussion.
You don’t have any of them.
Good, because peer review has been proven to be false.
Anecdotal evidence is not admissible. Thanks for confirming you know nothing.
It’s not heating up.
There is no land at the North Pole and the melted glaciers would get rid of land everywhere else.
Your theory, just like AGW, is utter shit.
Sameblamegame ago
You basically said nothing. Maybe make a point that doesn't require you to pick apart my statements individually.
Individually those sentences are weak. But the body of their meaning is avoided when you copy and paste like you're proud to have just graduated kindergarten.
I'm speaking from my experience in living next to the biggest bodies of fresh water in the world. So excuse me for simply putting my observations out there.
In living next to very large swamp, and great lakes regions, I grew up being bitten, by insects and frost, like my parents, and theirs before them. That has gone away. It doesn't get cold enough to drive a truck across the lakes anymore. There are less insects, and the ones that remain seem lethargic and slow in comparison to their ancestors.
Again, How many huge bodies of matter do I have to notice change in before you can get over the fact that climate change has been politicized. Something being a political tool does not make that something imaginary.
I can have a theory and it be wrong, it literally is just another opportunity to learn. But I'm sure you've looked under the glaciers and seen for yourself.
I have the proof that I have. My observations are one piece of a puzzle. You can ignore that, since it would be easier for your world view, or you can take it for what it is; my and my families experience living next to a once a very robust seasonal area, that is suddenly not very robust.
Jesus man. Grow up.
Tallest_Skil ago
Which is more than you did.
Maybe make a point that doesn’t have EVERY SINGLE THING YOU SAY be WRONG, then.
Directly addressed in every way, shape, and form. There is no AGW, regardless of your delusions.
Your anecdote is meaningless.
You’re excused. Anecdotes are not science.
Bullshit, as proven by the ice recordings every single winter.
None, because your anecdote is irrelevant to the fact that the politics don’t matter. AGW is not happening.
Good for you. At least you’re not blinded.
Can’t get under them; too much ice.
You don’t have any proof. Anecdotes are not admissible.
Fuck, man, LEARN HOW TO COUNT. It’s getting colder, not warmer.
Sameblamegame ago
Didn't even read that. I'm keep replying if making yourself feel smart helps you.
Tallest_Skil ago
Get fucked, you worthless sack of shit. You have no argument.
Land “readings” are diverging from satellite data (which NASA itself says is accurate and should be the standard instead) because over 40% of land “readings” are estimates made for places without recording equipment.
To illustratively do something that the psychopaths love to do, I’ll cherrypick the last 20 years to show that there has been no warming there, despite CO2 continuing to rise. Even using just the satellite record, the world isn’t warming. If we refer back to one of the hottest years in recorded history, we see the difference.
They’re not melting. They go through cycles. 1974 had less ice than today. Oh, and don’t listen to what scientists say, whatever you do. Nowhere is melting out of turn, not even Greenland (where it has been growing for something like 30 years).
It has been rising for 13,000 years. In that time, it has never risen more slowly than right now. Were our ancestors belching out CO2 faster than we were? Maybe they were farting a lot more. Or maybe you just believe in complete bullshit. It’s rising more slowly than at any time in that history, and it’s also rising more slowly than any claim made public by any outlet. Here’s the source data for that chart. It’s an FTP link, so it should automatically download the raw file (which you don’t need to worry about; it’s a bunch of undifferentiated numbers). Turns out that NOAA marks the average as 0.63 mm per year. Not 3.3. Not 2.8. Certainly not a foot per year, which is needed for the most modern public “predictions” about this bullshit.
Guess what? It’s also cyclical.
They’ve been melting since at least the 1780s when we started measuring them. I also have information for the Alps and other areas. Was our pre-industrial civilization responsible for “greenhouse gases” too?
Sorry, there never was any consensus.
Because they do (and because papers often aren’t published because the publishing groups are owned by AGW liars).