Absolutlely. All those ridiculous conspiracy theories like "flat earth", or how no one died in Sandy Hook or Pulse Orlando -- that it was all just actors hamming it up for the television cameras -- are intentional disinfo meant to paint anyone who speaks of any conspiracy appear to be mentally unstable and feeble minded.
I am getting tired of seeing people bashing the flat earth without looking into it. Do your own research, give equal chance to both sides and you will notice that NASA has been lying since the begining, we cannot go to space as there is a dome above us. The bible is more accurate than you think.
I have flown to the other side of the planet and experienced time zones. I also aim long range radios and after about 2 miles you have to start aiming them down because of the curvature that you can measure with a stick and a stopwatch. Funny enough the time zone thing and the curvature thing, in exact mathematical agreeance.
The only thing this guy has backing up his theory is that "NASA lied". When presented with practical, hard evidence (long-wave radio is a perfect example btw, thanks for sharing) he doesn't have a reply. I wonder how he explains the satellites in orbit that give him his GPS signal or allow him to watch evangelical TV.
I guess the satellites must spin around on the same mystery mobile that the sun and moon are spinning around on. The flat earth map is kinda hilarious.
The thing that's hard to understand is that the flat earthers are simply stupid. They cannot wrap their puny minds around light refraction and other concepts that utterly wreck the entire argument. Ignore them and recognize that any attempt to discuss the topic is introduced by someone who is either: A: A spook or B: An idiot.
I've been interested in FE theories, the more convincing things are being able to see objects far away that otherwise would be hidden by the curvature of the planet. Things like long canals that stretch many miles are 100% flat the whole length of them even though every mile is supposed to drop at 8 inches squared.
I don't fully buy into it but I do believe it's healthy to be properly skeptical of everything and to research everything with an open unbiased eye.
Idk man, still sounds like bullshit to me. If this planet was flat you wouldn't have companies like SpaceX blowing millions trying to make reusable rockets.
How do you explain the Stars, the movement of the Planets? Are they flat too? Or is it all made up by some mythical being?
I don't see any reason why planets can't be spherical, from what I understand in the FE model is the sky revolves above the earth which is why the north star is always in the same place despite it being claimed that the Earth is wobbling on a journey around the sun while hurling through space.
Just go on and step outside, does it honestly feel like you're spinning at 1,000 miles per hour?
Earth spins on its axis once in every 24-hour day. At Earth’s equator, the speed of Earth’s spin is about 1,000 miles per hour (1,600 kph). The day-night has carried you around in a grand circle under the stars every day of your life, and yet you don’t feel Earth spinning. Why not? It’s because you and everything else – including Earth’s oceans and atmosphere – are spinning along with the Earth at the same constant speed.
You really don't need NASA or satellite pictures to tell you anything. You can prove it yourself, in a number of different ways. I would direct your attention to the comment on Eratosthenes.
Even according to the globe model 35,000 feet would still not be high enough to see the curvature of the earth, I believe it's around 100,000 feet that you'd be able to see it. So no you can't see the curvature of a planet even from an airliner.
Devils advocate here. The air is pretty shitty these days. I wonder how far one could actually see though normal atmosphere, if you had a long enough stretch of atmosphere to test in.
Also, we only put telescopes in orbit so we don't have the atmosphere fuzzing up the picture, so the air is definitely a limiting factor at some level.
So diffraction is a real thing, and definitely causes distortion. Air pollution doesn't have large effect really, as air itself is large enough to cause plenty of diffraction (the sky being blue is a good example).
You're not wrong about telescopes being increasingly deployed into orbit, however the reasons are more related to light pollution, the magnetosphere and simply cloud-cover than anything else.
However, none of that is really related to this issue. Your naked eye ought to be able to see mount Everest, since it's the tallest thing on earth, if the earth is flat. Next time you're driving somewhere, take the time to notice how all the radio towers appear top first on the horizon, then you slowly see more as you approach.
But really, the problem isn't these individual little issues. It's not flat earth vs. round earth. It's flat earth vs. ALL SCIENCE.
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0ccidentalist ago
Absolutlely. All those ridiculous conspiracy theories like "flat earth", or how no one died in Sandy Hook or Pulse Orlando -- that it was all just actors hamming it up for the television cameras -- are intentional disinfo meant to paint anyone who speaks of any conspiracy appear to be mentally unstable and feeble minded.
darklouis3 ago
I am getting tired of seeing people bashing the flat earth without looking into it. Do your own research, give equal chance to both sides and you will notice that NASA has been lying since the begining, we cannot go to space as there is a dome above us. The bible is more accurate than you think.
Al_Rubyx ago
Downvote the obvious troll and/or literal crazy person please.
The_Cat ago
Then how would you explain a century of seismology clearly showing this in ever greater detail?
Gravspeed ago
I have flown to the other side of the planet and experienced time zones. I also aim long range radios and after about 2 miles you have to start aiming them down because of the curvature that you can measure with a stick and a stopwatch. Funny enough the time zone thing and the curvature thing, in exact mathematical agreeance.
Flat earth is complete bullshit.
frankenham ago
There's no real reason why time zones can work on a FE model as well.
Gravspeed ago
Then please also explain why I have to aim long range antennas down more the father apart they are.
OneTrueCube ago
The only thing this guy has backing up his theory is that "NASA lied". When presented with practical, hard evidence (long-wave radio is a perfect example btw, thanks for sharing) he doesn't have a reply. I wonder how he explains the satellites in orbit that give him his GPS signal or allow him to watch evangelical TV.
Gravspeed ago
I guess the satellites must spin around on the same mystery mobile that the sun and moon are spinning around on. The flat earth map is kinda hilarious.
Gravspeed ago
Lol, right. The amount of dissonance required is actually kind of staggering.
Hipsterrr ago
lol, nothing flat earthers have told me has done anything to convince me that this planet is flat.
All I see is a bunch of bullshit.
Empire_of_the_mind ago
The thing that's hard to understand is that the flat earthers are simply stupid. They cannot wrap their puny minds around light refraction and other concepts that utterly wreck the entire argument. Ignore them and recognize that any attempt to discuss the topic is introduced by someone who is either: A: A spook or B: An idiot.
frankenham ago
I've been interested in FE theories, the more convincing things are being able to see objects far away that otherwise would be hidden by the curvature of the planet. Things like long canals that stretch many miles are 100% flat the whole length of them even though every mile is supposed to drop at 8 inches squared.
I don't fully buy into it but I do believe it's healthy to be properly skeptical of everything and to research everything with an open unbiased eye.
Hipsterrr ago
You can't see the curvature of the Earth because your eyes can only see so far. Biology plays a part in this.
That and some physics shit I'm not aware of
frankenham ago
The Earth curves down 8 inches squared per mile so even over just a 10 mile stretch you'd be able to see it if it were there.
Hipsterrr ago
Idk man, still sounds like bullshit to me. If this planet was flat you wouldn't have companies like SpaceX blowing millions trying to make reusable rockets.
How do you explain the Stars, the movement of the Planets? Are they flat too? Or is it all made up by some mythical being?
frankenham ago
I don't see any reason why planets can't be spherical, from what I understand in the FE model is the sky revolves above the earth which is why the north star is always in the same place despite it being claimed that the Earth is wobbling on a journey around the sun while hurling through space.
Just go on and step outside, does it honestly feel like you're spinning at 1,000 miles per hour?
Hipsterrr ago
Did you not pay attention in high school physics?
frankenham ago
Of course, why do you ask?
Hipsterrr ago
SrSysEng ago
I'm not a physicist, but the only thing I could come up with was light refraction - gravity bends light too..?
MinorLeakage ago
You really don't need NASA or satellite pictures to tell you anything. You can prove it yourself, in a number of different ways. I would direct your attention to the comment on Eratosthenes.
tippyc ago
nasa is lying because they contacted aliens, not because the earth is flat.
OneTrueCube ago
So... have you never been in a plane before? You can clearly see the curvature of our planet.
darklouis3 ago
For sure if they use fish eye lenses style windows it can give that illusion
OneTrueCube ago
Care to explain why a fish-eye window on a plane makes the horizon curved but literally nothing else that you see thru the same window?
Jesus, some people.
darklouis3 ago
Did you take a picture? if no it's your opinion man
gosso920 ago
Well, actually...
frankenham ago
Even according to the globe model 35,000 feet would still not be high enough to see the curvature of the earth, I believe it's around 100,000 feet that you'd be able to see it. So no you can't see the curvature of a planet even from an airliner.
MinorLeakage ago
Or simply just looked in any old direction...
OneTrueCube ago
Well, it's hard to see if you are at sea level. High elevation just makes it obvious to the naked eye.
MinorLeakage ago
The horizon itself is literal proof. Otherwise a telescope would fix the problem, yet doesnt. Things disappear from the bottom first.
Sciency ago
Devils advocate here. The air is pretty shitty these days. I wonder how far one could actually see though normal atmosphere, if you had a long enough stretch of atmosphere to test in.
Also, we only put telescopes in orbit so we don't have the atmosphere fuzzing up the picture, so the air is definitely a limiting factor at some level.
MinorLeakage ago
So diffraction is a real thing, and definitely causes distortion. Air pollution doesn't have large effect really, as air itself is large enough to cause plenty of diffraction (the sky being blue is a good example).
You're not wrong about telescopes being increasingly deployed into orbit, however the reasons are more related to light pollution, the magnetosphere and simply cloud-cover than anything else.
However, none of that is really related to this issue. Your naked eye ought to be able to see mount Everest, since it's the tallest thing on earth, if the earth is flat. Next time you're driving somewhere, take the time to notice how all the radio towers appear top first on the horizon, then you slowly see more as you approach.
But really, the problem isn't these individual little issues. It's not flat earth vs. round earth. It's flat earth vs. ALL SCIENCE.
0ccidentalist ago
This was debunked by Eratosthenes in ancient Egypt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes
All those explorers like Magellan used the compass and sextet and an understanding that the earth is spherical.