If they can show me a population who has no vaccs and are better off ,healthier , stronger then their argument would
at least have some validity. But they can't. Because they are wrong. It is that simple.
Gee, I guess the eradication of smallpox is even not enough to convince you of the benefits of vaccines. Take a good read of what that disease did to people. I pity you and all you teach your nonsense too.
I like how you already have a narrative in your head and know exactly what my stances are on vaccines because I dare question them.
I don't have a problem with vaccines, I have a problem with how they're studied and how everyone says they are safe without actually proving it. If the health industry simply said "well this is the best we have, and yes there are side effects" anti vaxxers wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But when you cover up the side effects and not actually study the safety of vaccines, that raises lots of questions.
If people had real world info and stats on vaccines and their side effects, they could easier make the decision whether to vaccinate or not.
Those are not major, most of those are for HPV. Where are the placebo controlled studies for all the vaccines kids need to get injected with? There better be a placebo controlled study for each one, otherwise it's not science.
I have no doubt that vaccines work.
I also have no doubt that vaccines can have unintended side effects. This could be from any number of factors, whether by design, improper storage, administration, screw ups, etc.
I personally eat as close to Paleo as possible, which means I very closely monitor what goes into my body.
The question is, should I by law be told what to inject into my bloodstream? Or my kids for that matter?
If the government was so obsessed with keeping my kids healthy, consumption of Coke would be illegal and so would half the shit at the grocery store.
I strongly feel that the only reason this is such a big issue is the pharma lobbyists pushing an agenda. Not health concerns
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mirimar ago
If they can show me a population who has no vaccs and are better off ,healthier , stronger then their argument would at least have some validity. But they can't. Because they are wrong. It is that simple.
SomeoneOnTheInternet ago
You do know that no studies exist where they compare vaccinated vs. unvaccinated for any meaningful amounts of time. I wonder why that is...
mirimar ago
Gee, I guess the eradication of smallpox is even not enough to convince you of the benefits of vaccines. Take a good read of what that disease did to people. I pity you and all you teach your nonsense too.
SomeoneOnTheInternet ago
I like how you already have a narrative in your head and know exactly what my stances are on vaccines because I dare question them.
I don't have a problem with vaccines, I have a problem with how they're studied and how everyone says they are safe without actually proving it. If the health industry simply said "well this is the best we have, and yes there are side effects" anti vaxxers wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But when you cover up the side effects and not actually study the safety of vaccines, that raises lots of questions.
If people had real world info and stats on vaccines and their side effects, they could easier make the decision whether to vaccinate or not.
mirimar ago
And how ethical would a double blind study be (giving some a placebo ) be in a vaccination trial? I don't think anyone really wants to do that.
SomeoneOnTheInternet ago
That's such a bullshit garbage excuse.
What about all those trials where doctors test new drugs vs placebo and people die? what about new cancer treatments?
mirimar ago
Some major studies , global:
https://www.quora.com/Has-vaccine-safety-been-proven-in-placebo-controlled-clinical-trials-If-so-where-can-I-find-the-data
SomeoneOnTheInternet ago
Those are not major, most of those are for HPV. Where are the placebo controlled studies for all the vaccines kids need to get injected with? There better be a placebo controlled study for each one, otherwise it's not science.
fr33europe ago
I think it's a bit more complex.
I have no doubt that vaccines work. I also have no doubt that vaccines can have unintended side effects. This could be from any number of factors, whether by design, improper storage, administration, screw ups, etc.
I personally eat as close to Paleo as possible, which means I very closely monitor what goes into my body.
The question is, should I by law be told what to inject into my bloodstream? Or my kids for that matter?
If the government was so obsessed with keeping my kids healthy, consumption of Coke would be illegal and so would half the shit at the grocery store.
I strongly feel that the only reason this is such a big issue is the pharma lobbyists pushing an agenda. Not health concerns