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axolotl__peyotl ago

Welcome.

Mumberthrax ago

Thanks. : ]

I hope that you can understand why I made the subverse request instead of messaging you or the other mods directly prior. As voat picks up more activity, it seemed that the sub is at a critical stage where it could either become a clone of /r/conspiracy, become worse, or it could become its own thing and excel. I intend no disrespect to you or the other mods through this.

PrivateJoker ago

I really don't understand the backdoor route into modship. I also don't understand how someone could message Atko about this sub and just take over without any communication between the current mods. I've been here for almost a year, i visit on a daily basis. I would have liked to be involved in a conversation at the very least. I for one think it's shady, I personally have no idea who you are and don't agree with your reasoning behind sneaking into level 2 modship here.

/u/Atko

Mumberthrax ago

/v/subverserequest has been a thing for a while. You made a post on /v/conspiratard (link) even acknowledging that there is an application process to be given ownership of a subverse. Atko previously made a comment (on a post near the top of the front page of this sub) which i cited in my subverse request about how this subverse was eligible for request.

I think I explained the gist of my reasoning for this in my comment on that subverserequest post: https://voat.co/v/subverserequest/comments/88335/152638

It's true that it may have been the courteous thing to have messaged the current mods before making the subverse request. I suppose I had a personal bias in that I believed I would be a better person for the job, and a concern based on comments here and on reddit that some of the mods may not have the best interests of the community at heart - which is one of the big reasons so many of us left reddit for voat, due to corrupt mods.

I understand that there's no way that I can prove to you my sincerity or intentions through words, so the best that I can ask for is to be judged by my actions as moderator. If on the balance of things the community consistently wishes me to be gone, then I will step down. My actions should be visible via the moderation log, and through the log I have been and intend on updating with any notable actions I take as a mod here.

PrivateJoker ago

Well my thoughts:

1 - you don't request a subverse that is active. I don't care if the main guy is gone, it makes no sense to try to take it over. I know there's a process to do it, and I know I posted about it. Those are abandoned subverses with no other mods. Not one of the most active on this website with active mods already in place. If Atko or the active mods here had an issue, it should have been up to us to resolve it. I wouldn't have an issue if he just installed new level 1 mods. My issue is making a new user a level 2 while the mopes that have been here for a year don't even get notified.

2 - I've been here almost a year. A daily user for the most part. I was never a mod on reddit and I had the same concerns you did, which is why i'm here.

3 - Even after you took over, you never PMd anyone you just tossed a sticky up.

Trying to prove yourself is going to be hard now, just by the way you approached it. And I fault Atko just as much. I realize he's a busy guy but giving away subverses just because the creator is gone is not the way to do things. And this isn't the first time he's done it. I was a mod of /v/gaming for 7 months only to wake up one day to all mods stripped and one installed.

/u/Atko

Peglius ago

Private Joker is very on point here, its all a little shady, that being said, i haven't seen any real disruption to content, save this whole new overlord kurfuffle

PrivateJoker ago

I think it's funny that normally this type of thing would cause a riot with conspiracy users, yet everyone is ok with a stranger taking over the entire sub.