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Atko ago

Not okay, but at the same time, I never wanted it to be taken over by blatant trolls posing as racists, derailing a valuable channel for freedom of speech which could have been used to drive actual change.

I recently started https://20-things.com, do check it out, but beware: early alpha stage and with a set of rules to help keep it usable.

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SodaPopinski_ ago

The only one posing here is you with your bogus belief in free speech.

crazy_eyes ago

Hi Colin, hope you get to see this before this place goes black. I was on reddit about 6 years ago in the r/conspiracy sub and you showed up there and invited me to come check out the whoaverse, and i was fed up with the bs at that site and joined the whoaverse and been here ever since. I remember when this place was barely alive and I made up my mind I was not going back to the liars and decided to make this place what I wanted it to be and just made this website my home and posted the things I wanted to see and the things I wanted to have conversations about. It was really, really slow going at the beginning. As I am sure you remember. Then you changed the name, and it picked up a bit, then Amalek showed up, and at least the v/new was active. I still never looked back and knew this place had the potential to become the kind of place I wanted it to be. And after a year or so it did. This place blossomed into the most honest wonderful place on the whole internet. You should be proud of what you created here. The past 4 years or so, VOAT was really truly the best website there was for content and truth and none of the bullshit censorship. The best by far. There really was no close second. Nothing was off limits as far as discussion, and there is really nowhere else in the entire world that you can say that about these days. You probably didn't even hardly notice I was here at all, and that doesnt ever matter. I was, and thanks to what you started I felt a part of it. I just abhor liars and lies and at least here, i could call them out and others could see them. Thank you.

VoatsNewfag ago

I hope you didn't circumcize your son

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oldblo ago

Can you please work with @SearchVoat to preserve the subverses they dont have archived? I would be very grateful.

cyclops1771 ago

Funny how once Justin said "It's over", the genocidal racist posts stopped, and a community came back.

Thanks Atko for these past 6 years. Best of luck, sir!

IsraelisntReal ago

if that's all you think this site is,

then you aren't very good at reading.

TheBuddha ago

o/

I'll consider your site, but I really don't want to give up my real phone number and my 'fake' one doesn't seem to get your SMS. The fake one works, it just doesn't do your SMS codes seemingly.

Cockboy ago

Your dumbass new website is going to tank HARD dude. Why the fuck would anyone from reddit come there? It's literally got the exact same rules and reddit already exists. You're dumb as fuck.

ExpertShitposter ago

LoL, here we go again.....

RiverWind ago

Ooh! thank you for all your work on Voat, Atko.

I hope you try Aether now: https://getaether.net

MightyGroo ago

I beg you to help us now. Pass the batton like you once did but find three or more people that you can meet and vet in real life so that one person alone cant fuck it all up(no dis-respect to putt). You have to have people in real life or at least people you would consider from the site that would be worthy. There have to be hundreds of people here genuinley willing to take up the fight, me included. After these five years I realize how important to me and the world this site is whether they know it or not. Shutting it down and killing it with this short notice is insane and absurd. Please try to find a way to keep us together, it would be a shame if this great thing that was built just faded into oblivion.

mikenigger ago

I anticipate SearchVoat doing more to preserve this site than Atko tbh, esp. after seeing the rules for his site

tainted_kernel ago

blatant trolls posing as racists

This is a misunderstanding.

The world is in a twisted state and many people want to discuss particular events and facts, today. Creating a site for discussion today results in discussion of these events and facts because they are relevant today. 20 years ago, an open discussion forum would not necessarily have taken this direction, but today it does, because different things have become critically important to the general public, namely survival-related, and this tends to displace the desire for cat pictures and lit reactions in peoples minds.

If you deeply desire to provide a service to the community, I get it, it is fulfilling for a certain personality. I feel like we share this.

Realize that once you provide that forum, people will use it to discuss what is most important to them, and you don't control what is most important to them. You only control what gets posted to your forum.

So, despite feeling high on your altruism over wishing to provide a service, you want to control what is discussed on a general news discussion forum; this is an intrusion on the mind of the users. You have recreated Reddit.

You've recreated a shitty propaganda repeater, with the added twist of being a ghost town. You're outside the inner circle that Reddit and other major media is a member of, but you think that inner circle doesnt exist or doesn't matter. If you think you want to grow 20-things to become self-sustaining, your revenue source will demand that you act just like Reddit.

I'm at a loss at what you're actually trying to do. If you are doing this because you disapprove of Reddit, you might as well shut down 20-things.com, you have become it.

RevDrStrangelove ago

Wow. You still lurk here? Right on.

I have a couple of questions you might be able/willing to answer:

Is PuttItOut actually 'Ghostskin' and all those other alts?

Does PuttItOut have anything to do with poal?

DillHoleBagHands ago

Glad to see your username again. Hope you are well and I wish you the best.

BigFatDaddy ago

To be fair, I'm not a troll or posing. I really AM this racist. Anyway, thanks for making Voat. Good luck in the future.

qwop ago

I don't know Atko. I have been waking up people to this ongoing cultural subversion at an accelerating rate by referring them to Voat discussions. What kind of actual change did you have mind that is better than that? I think you may have gotten outplayed by a few trolls, while disregarding the silent majority of this site that are using it for something good.

AR47 ago

Sooooo you made raddit 2.0?

Atko i been with you.....since the start -adhdferret and I remember the beginning, but it was you that allowed fuzzy to start the help with code and such, which was your deal....we all helped you back then make this place, and guess what....some of that so called racism is indeed free speech.....unfortunately so was that pedo shit aged made with /young girls that you NEVER said shit about.

Notice you didn't mention it specifically like you did gender discrimination......why didn't you mention no pedos in the rules?

You made a statement back then with forbidme......then whoaverse where we had fun....reddit mods told you to go fuck yourself....remember that? Well they told coontown, they told FPH, they told all those other people the same thing....so they looked up to you.

I get shit got crazy....I really do.....however you started something and gave them a place to flourish and some of us made a difference in one just one persons life....I did that with someone because this site did that for me once.

I am not mad at you or put either....I am just disappointed.

You can say so the fuck what.....but I know you....I really do, and I know it means something.

Royalseq ago

I hope you realize the irony that you would ban MLK's I have a dream speech because at the time it was considered it would be deemed hate speech. If you want change you can't limit what people say.

Cucky_Sanders ago

No hate speech, harassment and bullying

Do not engage in any of the following:

Offensive, inappropriate, or unwanted comments related to gender, gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or age, or other protected categories under applicable law.

More crap, good luck with that site. The white/EU reality bubble will burst once they are out numbered by shit-skins

Royalseq ago

Nigger

mikenigger ago

This is the only valid answer.

LAMNOID ago

So the trolls come with the territory. Any website that says "free speech" cannot be allowed by the powers that be. The only way to damage it is with the signal to noise ratio. This place dug too deep on things like pizzagate so it had to be taken out. Sad days. I'll check out the new place - Good luck!

Cockboy ago

Rules of the new place:

No hate speech, harassment and bullying

Do not engage in any of the following:

Offensive, inappropriate, or unwanted comments related to gender, gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or age, or other protected categories under applicable law.

Ocelot ago

I respect you for starting this platform, but perhaps one day you will see that the "actual change" you desire is inherently bound to the "racism" you scorn. Free speech as a basic right is an almost holistically European concept. It means nothing if you don't fight for that which birthed it.

Thereunto ago

To be fair he did say trolls posing as racists. He might be voicing dislike for agents of abstract amusement as oppose to a specific dislike for "racists".

hagelangs ago

Nah, have a look at the comment by @LurkedForever below. Atko is SJW through and through. The best thing that ever happened to this site was him giving up the reins to it.

LurkedForever ago

Just copy-pasta'd from 20-things rules page.

hagelangs ago

He's a Bosnian Muslim with a Swedish passport. Currently lives in Switzerland. A rootless cosmopolitan in other words. He might as well wear a small hat.

redpilldessert ago

Where the hell did you hear he was muslim?

hagelangs ago

His name is Atif Colo. Atif is a Muslim name. Sorry to burst your bubble on this.

redpilldessert ago

Maybe he's ex-muslim then. Also, muslims in the Caucasus/Russia region are FAR better than in the Middle East, mainly because they're more white.

hagelangs ago

You're clutching at straws here. Being the best muslim is like being the tallest midget in the village. There's also the genetic component to consider. European muslims are for the most part Turkish in origin. They're never going to be truly European. Go read up on HBD.

redpilldessert ago

Look at him: https://i.imgur.com/11Z94Eg.png

That's Atko. That's pretty white to me.

hagelangs ago

Like I said the guy's a Turk. A worshipper of Baal. Mohammedan. Whatever. If you can't tell the difference between him and Europeans then I can't help you. Merry Christmas to you.

Sympozium ago

Bosnians and Turks are not the same thing

redpilldessert ago

Assuming he's Turkish, some Turks are much more White than other Turks, and therefore have much more European DNA.

Have a great Christmas too!

Ocelot ago

I knew he was Bosnian but never the Muslim part. Huh, the things you learn while the ship is sinking.

shitface9000 ago

Fun fact: Voat was a valuable channel for FoS contributing to actual change. A loyal userbase is the highest praise you can get for a website. Congratulations for that.

LurkedForever ago

Will do, thanks.

Ocelot ago

tfw Atko was a cuck all along

LurkedForever ago

I mean, I can get it. @Atko probably wanted to recreate Reddit-That-Was origionally. He probably wanted people to be able to say nigger, but not necessarily for that to be the only thing they said. As long as you have the big platforms banning certain groups, you'll get an over-representation ofthose groups. I started lurking on Voat because free-speech above all, not because I wanted to read about jews and nogs 8 hours per day (I'm guilty of posting too much about niggers).

It creates an echo chamber because you have to have a really thick skin if you don't buy the entire narrative.

Atko, I don't think that this particular set of rules will get you where you want to go, but I hope you find a set that will. Fostering a diversity of opinion, and politeness is a very laudable goal, good luck with it.

Atko ago

You’re correct. I have no desire to impose or enforce any content moderation on 20-things as long as the content is legal in the US, but content diversity is key. Yet another echo chamber is not the goal.

LurkedForever ago

Hey you replied! Wow, I'm surprised to the point of shock. Like I said, I hope it works out. Voat has been such a consolation after reddit abandoned it's free-speech ideals. And yes it became an echochamber as I fear Poal will too based on the number of refugees, already shitting up the place about jews, jews, jews, but what can you do.

Anyway, thank you again.

oldblo ago

"Unwanted Comments" In other words dont mention it ever because if you ever get enough people there will be someone who objects. Same can be said of all the other subjective and potentially all encompassing words in that.

oldblo ago

"Unwanted Comments" In other words dont mention it ever because if you ever get enough people there will be someone who objects. Same can be said of all the other subjective and potentially all encompassing words infesting that.

oldblo ago

"Unwanted Comments" In other words dont mention it ever because if you ever get enough people there will be someone who objects. Same can be said of all the other subjective and potentially all encompassing words in that.

LurkedForever ago

Yeah, seems that way. Very disappointing.

IsraelisntReal ago

unwanted sexual attention?

that is way too malleable.

LurkedForever ago

Yeah, it all looks straight out of a reddit style playbook. Some of them aren't bad like (Sustained disruption of talks or other events) but even that seems to be tricky and arbitrary.

IsraelisntReal ago

it's all about who gets to teacher first.

LurkedForever ago

yep yep

totallynotFBI ago

Holy simpers, Batman!

CognitiveDissident5 ago

Jeez...

chirogonemd ago

My God, this is awful. I came later to the party than a lot of people. I've been here around 3 years. It is still hard for me to imagine that this mind from which this place originated. It would have probably been an interesting thing to have seen the early days as this so-called take over was happening.

Rotteuxx ago

Me thinks @atko might not have appreciated the natural & inevitable outcome of true free speech. Obviously it'll attract everyone who's oppressed elsewhere & you'll get high concentrations of non-(n)pc opinions but, are those really cringe opinions or are they natural ideas that don't require indoctrination?

I'm curious Atko, what do you think would be the prevailing ideology worldwide if multiculturalism & PC culture weren't state mandated and supported by a global mediatic consortium? Do you think nations would have a tendency to adopt ethno-nationalist ideologies as opposed to open borders policies?

We can't fight nature but we can sure as hell cause a lot of needless chaos by trying to go against it.

chirogonemd ago

One thing that you could do would be to look at the behaviors of the most socially protected class, upon which no mandate could be enforced, but for the sake of whom all mandates are mandated.

How does Israel behave?

If we wanted to look at it a different way, as opposed to naturalistic behaviors, we might also just consider it a game. If the Jew has found a way to rig the game in his/her favor, then how are the 'winners' behaving?

Both present us a pretty clear answer.

The utopian one-mankind, one-world ideology has never been a legitimate moral end, it's always been an exploit of socially trustworthy sub-species of man whose morals can become weaknesses when he is not self-aware.

Rotteuxx ago

We need to work on a "World history for retards" book series, with lots of colored pictures inside of course!

I'm going to miss reading like minded comments like these :/

chirogonemd ago

I like this idea. We could all do a chapter and then try to sell it on the Amazon marketplace before it gets taken down. If we only got the people who are decent-to-good writers, we could actually make a decent product!

Come to Poal. I'm going by CHIRO there.

I know it has taken flak in the past two days, and it isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing. You've probably already tried Notabug I'm guessing? I can't get beyond Notabug's formatting enough to try and enjoy it.

Rotteuxx ago

Meh, I want to direct my energy elsewhere than towards online communities. I'll probably be lurking here and there but my online presence will diminish.

One thing I realized while on here, a lot of us are longing for connecting with other red pilled folks but we should be connecting with normies irl to spread what we know. That book idea I've had for a long time, it would probably be hell to publish though. I have so much material saved from the past 5 1/2 years on here it would be more editing & quoting than actual writing, lol

tanukihat ago

Holy shit hahaha

Fuuuuuuuuck that.

mikenigger ago

So it's basically reddit?

LurkedForever ago

Really dissapointing. I can understand wanting to keep the conversation more civil, but some of those words (hatespeech, offensive, "gender identity"-which doesn't exist) make me a bit too nervous.

mikenigger ago

Looks like it's under swiss jurisdiction, that would make it legally impossible to run something like voat, I don't even see a politics board there, it's a dud for me.

SharpSliceOfMango ago

taken over by blatant trolls posing as racists, derailing a valuable channel for freedom of speech

Freedom of speech comes without condition. If you don't allow every speech, even if its considered "hate speech" or "racist" from your point of view, then its not free speech. If the roles were reversed and we would live in an ultra nationalist and racist society and leftis/communist viewpoints would be considered "hate speech", would you then write the same statement?

antiracistMetal ago

Didn't you already make a website which does that, called Voat, faggot?