Either we see several more, or we see none. With human nature, no one wants to be the first guys. You already have the "leader" to kick it all off. If we have a second mosque shooting in the near future, then we'll have our first follower. After that, more and more people will likely join in. Alternatively, just like the synagogue shooting back in October, it'll be forgotten by the right and lead to nothing.
The key difference between this guy and the synagogue shooter is this guy did it right. He had a manifesto to tell people exactly what the believed in, instead of "angry racist white dude kills people he hates." He also had the live stream which makes it more personable. He also had a much higher kill count. In my opinion, this guy has a good chance of having copy-cats, but if there's one copycat, there will be more.
Here's a quote from his manifesto:
No group ordered my attack, I make the decision myself. Though I did contact the reborn Knights Templar for a blessing in support of the attack, which was given.
Also...
I am not a direct member of any organization or group, though I have donated to many nationalist groups and have interacted with many more.
Thus, you have groups he interacted with and likely share common beliefs, and you have a group that directly knew about and agreed with his attack. This means that there are likely multiple groups that have a personal connection with him and are willing to make a follow up to his attack.
TL;DR, This guy has a high chance of having followup attacks by other people, whether copycats or groups he interacted with. But if there are no other attacks before this shooting is forgotten, then virtually nothing would have changed.
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It's fine I'm not going to stop. Was just commenting on how when you use the same copypasta it says you've said the same thing recently, try not to use same material blah blah blah.
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SIayfire122 ago
Either we see several more, or we see none. With human nature, no one wants to be the first guys. You already have the "leader" to kick it all off. If we have a second mosque shooting in the near future, then we'll have our first follower. After that, more and more people will likely join in. Alternatively, just like the synagogue shooting back in October, it'll be forgotten by the right and lead to nothing.
The key difference between this guy and the synagogue shooter is this guy did it right. He had a manifesto to tell people exactly what the believed in, instead of "angry racist white dude kills people he hates." He also had the live stream which makes it more personable. He also had a much higher kill count. In my opinion, this guy has a good chance of having copy-cats, but if there's one copycat, there will be more.
Here's a quote from his manifesto:
Also...
Thus, you have groups he interacted with and likely share common beliefs, and you have a group that directly knew about and agreed with his attack. This means that there are likely multiple groups that have a personal connection with him and are willing to make a follow up to his attack.
TL;DR, This guy has a high chance of having followup attacks by other people, whether copycats or groups he interacted with. But if there are no other attacks before this shooting is forgotten, then virtually nothing would have changed.
NiggerVirus ago
Thanks for the well thought out response. Do you know where I can find his manifesto?
SIayfire122 ago
Archive.org copy <<< Download it now because they'll probably remove it
Archive.is copy <<< This one has a better chance of staying up, but still download the above version.
Magnetic Torrent Link
Text version
Also, just in case you haven't seen it or don't have it saved, here copies of his video
https://seed07.bitchute.com/JWa8508PdoWK/Ik6VYAJGF7os.mp4
https://web.archive.org/web/20190316015756/https://seed07.bitchute.com/JWa8508PdoWK/Ik6VYAJGF7os.mp4
https://d.tube/#!/v/gabriel-ds/o0m4io5c
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ArcturianDeathTrap ago
Checked with two different browsers, the archive.is copy isnt showing anything beyond page 3
SIayfire122 ago
Weird. It seems like all the archive.is copies are like that. Whatever though. It seems like the archive.org version is staying up.
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SIayfire122 ago
Naw. I like seeing how it spreads.
King_Leopold_II ago
K. The voat anitspam thing is getting annoying though lol.
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You don't have to if it's getting annoying. It's just not annoying me.
King_Leopold_II ago
It's fine I'm not going to stop. Was just commenting on how when you use the same copypasta it says you've said the same thing recently, try not to use same material blah blah blah.
SIayfire122 ago
Here. Put random characters after the "?" in the url
https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/3097660/17393329?
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