haven't visited gag Ina while lot of activity it has grown incredibly .. I hate them because I donate to them and then they do another round of fundraising and another. Asked for money when the FBI took the site down for 2 days FUKC YOU its just a honeyopt like this place anyway we all live in a fuckign cage we think we have free speech but we can only talk here so how how fuckign free is that...
I think Gab has PR people here on Voat. When I point out that their new platform, Dissenter isn't as "first amendment free speech" as they promised - because there is a list of words that are censored from the browser extension such as "Jew" - there are a raft of people that chime in to argue about it. They say that "Gab doesn't censor that" - even though I was talking about the Dissenter browser extension. They also say that "you can say that on Dissenter.com" - even though I was talking about the Dissenter browser extension.
The browser extension - which is what fucking matters - censors some speech. And in the age where it is of high importance to call out the Jew, having such terms banned is a huge red flag.
Sure, they do it so they can have the extension on the Chrome web store - but that doesn't explain why they don't offer a "censorship free" extension on their own site.
In short, they lied. They said that "the First Amendment will be the only guideline regarding speech on our platform" - and then released an extension that has built in censorship regarding subjective "offensive racial epithets". That's bullshit.
Sure, they do it so they can have the extension on the Chrome web store - but that doesn't explain why they don't offer a "censorship free" extension on their own site.
They may. I have not tried it yet though. The source is available at https://dissenter.com/download and reportedly does not contain the filter. SInce i haven't tried it yet I won't vouch for it.
The issues I have with Gab are purely from a management standpoint. When Gab was in beta, they relied on volunteers to help new comers get accustomed to Gab and the community. Those volunteers had special privileges and access. Then one day, Torba decided they were ready to go live and stripped everything from the volunteers and didn't even give them a "thanks for your help." When the volunteers were wondering what was happening, they got radio silence from Torba, until a few days later, his wife chimed in and said they were no longer needed.
That's was the first interaction I saw with the management of Gab, and that attitude has persisted since. It's the attitude of "Fuck you, I'll do what I want. And I don't have to answer to you."
Also, Torba is his worst PR. He has a horrible time communicating to people. Pointing back to the attitude, when he banned Anglin, it took him days to say why he did it. And even when he did, it was "I did it. Deal with it." and even though many people were upset, he refused to listen. Whether he was justified or not is immaterial.
Torba says he's all for transparency but when he was forced to delete someones post, again, it took days for his reasoning to do so to become known. And it was only made public because the people demanded to know why.
I said it before, and I'll say it again, Torba is the worst when it comes to doing PR. He thinks he's capable of handling public relations, but he's not. Because of his actions and words, I can't help but think that Gab is either controlled opposition or has the worst businessman in the world as CEO. I would love to be proven wrong on this, but I can see how he treated his volunteers, how he tried to avoid addressing his post deletions, how he tries to do gymnastics with the rules to enforce them how he sees fit and selectively.
But, hey, some people like it. I guess it all depends on how you use the platform.
Both Voat and Gab are fighting for the same thing, and it's just dumb for people here to talk shit about Gab. When people on Gab discuss Voat, there are no claims about Putt being a Jew or having Jew ties, even though Putt is just as obscure as Torba.
Fair enough. I haven't actually used gab but have seen some ban stories. I only move on to a new place when I get shadowbanned or banned, and I'm not her, yet.
EpiPendemic ago
haven't visited gag Ina while lot of activity it has grown incredibly .. I hate them because I donate to them and then they do another round of fundraising and another. Asked for money when the FBI took the site down for 2 days FUKC YOU its just a honeyopt like this place anyway we all live in a fuckign cage we think we have free speech but we can only talk here so how how fuckign free is that...
jollux ago
This is why:
http://archive.fo/0Jfk7
http://archive.fo/3gMhL
UnknownAlias365 ago
Gab literally banned people for "antisemitism." That might be why...
DeltaBravoTango ago
I find them hippocritical for banning lolicon. If they don’t allow everything, they aren’t really a free speech platform, they’re just racist twitter.
SquarebobSpongebutt ago
Gab = racist twitter
Voat = Racist Reddit
Have we found the racist facebook yet?
sakuramboo ago
minds?
clamhurt_legbeard ago
Why do so many
peopleFBI agents on voat have a negative opinion of Gab?ZenAtheist ago
I think Gab has PR people here on Voat. When I point out that their new platform, Dissenter isn't as "first amendment free speech" as they promised - because there is a list of words that are censored from the browser extension such as "Jew" - there are a raft of people that chime in to argue about it. They say that "Gab doesn't censor that" - even though I was talking about the Dissenter browser extension. They also say that "you can say that on Dissenter.com" - even though I was talking about the Dissenter browser extension.
The browser extension - which is what fucking matters - censors some speech. And in the age where it is of high importance to call out the Jew, having such terms banned is a huge red flag.
Sure, they do it so they can have the extension on the Chrome web store - but that doesn't explain why they don't offer a "censorship free" extension on their own site.
In short, they lied. They said that "the First Amendment will be the only guideline regarding speech on our platform" - and then released an extension that has built in censorship regarding subjective "offensive racial epithets". That's bullshit.
SquarebobSpongebutt ago
They may. I have not tried it yet though. The source is available at https://dissenter.com/download and reportedly does not contain the filter. SInce i haven't tried it yet I won't vouch for it.
ZenAtheist ago
I tried it, and it does indeed contain the filter.
SquarebobSpongebutt ago
I was just able to use it on this post to comment checking if Jew is allowed and it took.
ZenAtheist ago
Well what'd'ya know... it did work. Maybe they unblocked "Jew" from the filter?
SquarebobSpongebutt ago
Could be. Or could be they updated the system to detect the Chrome Store vs Manual extension installs properly. I expect this is all done server side.
sinclair ago
if you could name the Jew, you're not really a Dissenter?
jetztisterhalthier ago
It does render the browser extension kind of useless. And since that will be what most people are going to use, it seems just a bit too convenient.
sakuramboo ago
The issues I have with Gab are purely from a management standpoint. When Gab was in beta, they relied on volunteers to help new comers get accustomed to Gab and the community. Those volunteers had special privileges and access. Then one day, Torba decided they were ready to go live and stripped everything from the volunteers and didn't even give them a "thanks for your help." When the volunteers were wondering what was happening, they got radio silence from Torba, until a few days later, his wife chimed in and said they were no longer needed.
That's was the first interaction I saw with the management of Gab, and that attitude has persisted since. It's the attitude of "Fuck you, I'll do what I want. And I don't have to answer to you."
Also, Torba is his worst PR. He has a horrible time communicating to people. Pointing back to the attitude, when he banned Anglin, it took him days to say why he did it. And even when he did, it was "I did it. Deal with it." and even though many people were upset, he refused to listen. Whether he was justified or not is immaterial.
Torba says he's all for transparency but when he was forced to delete someones post, again, it took days for his reasoning to do so to become known. And it was only made public because the people demanded to know why.
I said it before, and I'll say it again, Torba is the worst when it comes to doing PR. He thinks he's capable of handling public relations, but he's not. Because of his actions and words, I can't help but think that Gab is either controlled opposition or has the worst businessman in the world as CEO. I would love to be proven wrong on this, but I can see how he treated his volunteers, how he tried to avoid addressing his post deletions, how he tries to do gymnastics with the rules to enforce them how he sees fit and selectively.
But, hey, some people like it. I guess it all depends on how you use the platform.
ratsmack ago
Both Voat and Gab are fighting for the same thing, and it's just dumb for people here to talk shit about Gab. When people on Gab discuss Voat, there are no claims about Putt being a Jew or having Jew ties, even though Putt is just as obscure as Torba.
ZeroFuggzGiven ago
To be fair you get banned for the JQ on gab...
ratsmack ago
Wrong... more blatant bullshit.
ZeroFuggzGiven ago
Fair enough. I haven't actually used gab but have seen some ban stories. I only move on to a new place when I get shadowbanned or banned, and I'm not her, yet.
ratsmack ago
I've been using Gab every day for over two years and all the rumors are false.
VicariousJambi ago
There was a thread about this yesterday, someone looking for actual proof Gab is a Jew trick
https://voat.co/v/whatever/3067557