The news that voat has a new "partner" has me nervous. I'm making contingency plans in the event that the partner turns out to insist on some sort of "curation," or if it seems like they're here to use voat as some sort of honeypot. If that happens I would like to remove every trace of everything I've ever posted to voat, but before writing my own script I wanted to check and see if this is work that has already been done.
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PuttItOut ago
Just delete your account.
We wipe all your data, including content replacement, when a user deletes their account (make sure you pay attention to the options as you can leave content or anonymize it too).
It makes me nervous that you are a janitor on a system sub and are posting submissions like this.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
FYI (and I'm sure you know), a good 40% of janitors and mods shouldn't be janitors and mods. That 40% accounts for a solid 25% of the issues with the Voat ecosystem right now. The other 75% of course being financing and essentially everything else you detailed in your most recent global sticky.
Voat is still growing and the poor moderators/janitors who help run the website are hindering it's growth, albeit by a fraction but enough to notice.
PuttItOut ago
@Cynabuns says the same thing. She should be the mod manager.
I'm curious though what you'd do to fix the mod problems. I think we agree it's an issue, but what is a solution?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
@Cynabuns certainly has brought up and continues to bring up great points in regards to the voat community.
The best solution to the problem right now would be to employ long standing community members to these positions, as these are the people who know Voat the best. Voat is in a critical stage right now of evolution and it's important to have these people effectively run the forums, just for the time being as the evolution takes place. This of course, would be a temporary action to ensure the voat ecosystem survival as voat begins to take more traction within the online community world.
Unfortunately, options are limited and I have put a lot of thought into how to remedy the issue, but of all the options available, employing the "old goats" is the safest security option for now. A successful way of employing this is to create a subverse where people can submit a "resume". Require all accounts applying to be older then 1 year of age, to be non-spamming accounts (i.e users who are not focused on only submitting links), to be active within the voat community and to prove they have moderation experience. Proving moderation experience is easy, especially if they have proof of doing so via evidence of where they moderate. There are countless forums online and I am sure many people from other forums, whether it be a forum related to cars, fitness or whatever. Once again, a temporary solution while voat evolves through this critical period.
Look at what happened to v/theunexplained - one of the larger subverses with over 13,000 subscribers, nuked and virtually inactive caused by a rouge moderator with hundreds of alt accounts. An account that which the voat community has identified as problematic and troublesome, and even documented it all on /v/ProtectVoat.
Lets just use me for this example.
I was a moderator on Reddit years ago for a handful of subreddits including but not limited to r/pizzagate, r/dankmemes, r/uncensorednews, r/dank_memes and others, all of which held over 100,000 excluding r/pizzagate which was unfortunately nunked by the anti-free speech Reddit admins. I have proof of having run these communities with the experience to back them. I was eventually removed from them due to my strong support of free speech and open forums while at the same time not tolerating shills and forum sliding. Things the Reddit community loves.
That's just one example and I am 100% sure there are others like myself on Voat who held similar position on Reddit and other forums as well. The subverse can simply be named v/ModApplications wherein a user, if accepted, can be given a janitorial or moderator role. The users would be "interviewed' by criteria such as their voat history, comment history and link submission history to ensure, as I mentioned before, they are not spammers, CCP farmers or the like.
A easy, temporary solution to protect voat and of course, those who are already effective janitors and mods would stay as they are most certainly needed.
argosciv ago
Yes, you were: https://archive.is/A4RtD
Added on Friday November 18, 2016 at 3:21:42 AM UTC.
You created your Voat account on July 7th, 2015 UTC.
Your first 2 submissions ever to Voat, the first being approximately 1 year, 2 months and 16 days(approx 444 days) after you created your account:
You became a moderator at r/pizzagate, 44 days, 22 hours, 55 minutes and 49 seconds after your second ever submission to Voat.
1 year, 11 months, 24 days, 9 hours, 22 minutes and 21 seconds later, you post your third submission ever to Voat:
When was r/pizzagate banned from Reddit?
r/pizzagate was banned from Reddit on approximately November 23, 2016, UTC: https://archive.fo/eiAUR
When was the Q/'~Awakening' Reddit exodus?
The banning of Q-related '~Awakening' subreddits from Reddit, began on approximately September 12-13, 2018, UTC: https://archive.is/oDpHB
Prior to this writing:
Here, it is claimed/implied that the explanation for the gap between your 2nd and 3rd submissions to Voat, was due to an inability to access the internet while serving in the
NavyCoast Guard:1: When @gabara mentions that you were active on Reddit, you completely ignore this and jump to talking about your uniform only/ribbons/medals only.
2: You finally respond to gabara on the subject of your being active on Reddit. Without mentioning Reddit you claim that,
To which @Caveman_in_a_suit responds with a screenshot of a navy.mil article contradicting your claim.
Here is the article that Caveman_in_a_suit shared a screenshot of: https://archive.is/OfOqG
3: When @Hydrocephalus and Caveman_in_a_suit begin poking holes in your story, especially the change from "Navy" to "Coast Guard", you threaten violence against Caveman_in_a_suit if they let you know the next time they're in Jersey.
Forgive me, but I find all of this to be very strange and it not only calls into question your ability to moderate with a stable mind, but also calls into question your motives and involvement(or lack thereof) with regards to r/pizzagate, r/GreatAwakening, v/pizzagate and v/GreatAwakening.
Especially considering that you were a moderator at r/pizzagate for only approximately 5 days before the subreddit was banned.
Perhaps you can explain this away and lessen my concerns?
Hydrocephalus ago
He also claims to have served 4 years in the coast guard, and is in his 4 years of inactive reserves, yet doesn't have a dd214 which you get after your active service time is up, and is arguabky the most important document you get from the military as it allows you to apply for benefits.
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2935847/15775605
In the comment after he claims that his "contract" (where he says a "contract is 4 years active 4 years inactive reserves) is up in 2020 if that were true he would have had to separate in 2016.