You remember that scene from The Princess Bride with the iocane powder?
There is something similar to that in real life. This idea is many centuries old.
You can make a teapot that has poison in half of it, if you hold the pot in a certain way it will pour out the poison for your enemy. Then you pour your own cup and hold the pot in another way, and it will pour the normal tea, and you won't die.
I just bought the wife an aerator that attaches to the top of wine bottles. It dispenses with the push of a button while aerating the wine.
It says it can be used with whiskey. There is a hose that extends into the bottle. You could just cut the hose at 25% of the bottle depth. This is the easiest way to accomplish what you want
Jesus crist man! That is the best answer ive seen so far! Briliant. I could glue the fucking thing on or attach it permanetly so i couldnt get to more. Thanks man glad i posted here.
A Soxhlet extractor from chemistry would do that for you. You would have to put the inlet at the 75% mark. A chemistry glass blower could easily make it for you.
Google ‘Soxhlet Extrector Principle’ for examples.
Pm me. I can either try to find one around here to buy or i could buy one from you? Take my idea and run with it i think there would be a market if you did it right.. i think it needs to be tough though.. not sure how strong the things you are talking about are?
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Place an insert in the cup above the 75% level, and put a hole near the edge of the circle that is furthest from the spout. As you pour from the cup, the insert will block the liquid from coming out since the hole will remain higher than the liquid within. It's not a perfect system, but after tinkering with it for a bit, you'll find the spot you need.
I want to keep 75 percent of the liquid in at all times? So you can only pour 25 percent out then u have to add more to the mix to be able to drink more?
You could make a piston type valve that can only go 25% out of the bottle before the diameter of the piston... axle is too wide for the bottle opening, so plugging the bottle. So decanting only 25% of the bottle.
Secondly, you could get one of those pouring measurers they use for mixing cocktails but make the volume measured 1/4 of the bottle. I think it's 2 valves similar to a cistern in a toilet with the leaver being either gravity or a cup being pushed up to the release valve.
Thirdly you could try and construct something using fluid pressures, head height and gravity. Where you have two cylinders, one cylinder is a quarter the diameter of the bottle cylinder, both bottles sitting at the same height side by side. The two bottles are connected in such a way that the head height will be equal not in use. A 2 action valve, again, on the bottom of the 1/4 measure bottle would release from your source bottle into your 1/4 bottle and then plug it when the fluid is released from the 1/4 bottle. I would draw a diagram but my current computer isn't too good with graphics...
Search for "metered pour spouts" or "measured pour spouts". They are type of speed pour bottle nozzle that uses a special check valve to meter out a specific amount of liquor in each pour. You could get a 1oz metered pour and knowing the bottle capacity pour out only the amount you designate while leaving a known amount behind. This should work well for your infinity bottle in both drinking it and adding to it. You can get them in lots of portion volumes and they are priced very reasonably. You may want to invest in some all stainless steel ones to keep your whiskey untainted though.
Put a deflated balloon inside the bottle, but leave the opening outside of the bottle so you can fill the balloon. Fill it with the 75% volume of the bottle, then tie off the balloon and push the tied end into the bottle. Then add the remaining 25% of the liquid to the bottle.
I see. Why not just get a set of smaller bottles that are exactly 25% of the volume of the larg bottle, then fill each of the small ones as you create new mixes over time? This would allow you to label and compare results in chronological order, and in theory you could recreate an especially good blend thereby.
Hmm ya not bad. Im trying to make it impossible to get at the 75 percent. Because you know 1 drink means 25 drinks sometimes? Dont want the temptation to drink the entire thing. Maybe a bottlenthat you tip and it pours into another attached bottle but at a certain angle it closes off and only 25 percent getd out?
Lol! Kiss theory in action. Like i said hey lets just have one drink 10 drinks later what the fuck happend! We drank all the eternity scotch! Lol but i do agree self control would be the easiest plan
Sounds like you are designing a liquid based explosive, particularly the ones that got liquids banned on flights. A 25% top that let's you drink, 75% bottom that is a base for an explosive.
Easy to do. Buy a glass downstem from a hemp shop. Melt it and the bottle together. You could even use a glass stopper due to the tapered fittings. Classy! @Doglegwarrior
Hmmm i am not sure exactly what this is but im not a retard despite what the trolls on here claim. I think you described it enough i can figure it out. The melting part is what is giving me pause.
Looking back through my comments I just realized there is a glaring flaw in this design. You would be unable to fill it by pouring in past 25%. That neck (downstem) that goes down 75% of the bottle would have to be removable. Otherwise the air or liquid trapped inside would seal it at 25%.
The fix isn't any more difficult than what was discussed earlier. Only change is that intsead of melting a downstem into the top of the bottle, you would cut off the very top of the bottle where the cap would go and replace it with a tapered ground glass fitting for the downstem to go into. It's exactly like making a bong.
Go to any hemp shop worth their salt and they will know exactly what I'm talking about. They should be able to provide you with the parts you need.
Or just tell them what you want and they can make it if they blow their own glass.
Thanks for the follow up i need to look for a good glass blower. I have a 43 year old bottle of scotch im saving for dick chenneys death that would be a good one to start my infinity bottle with.
Another thought: the stem is going to need an interference angle with the bottle. Otherwise the sugar from the alcohol is going to get it stuck. Maybe the glass blowers have a grinding stone capable of this. If not you could carefully chuck the downstem in a drill and create the angle with a sanding block or sharpening stone. After that lap it for a perfect seal. You don't need to buy anything special for this, some simple rubbing or polishing compound will work fine. It won't take much lapping at all, don't overdo it.
I'm thinking about this so much because now I want to make one! Haha
Get a MAP gas torch with a wide spread tip and a heat gun, keep the glass evenly heated and the bottle as warm as possible even though it's only the neck you're actually working on. The idea is to avoid sharp temperature changes because that's how glass shatters.
Then when you have it how you like, take it to a pottery class near you (community college) and ask them to temper the glass. Basically just keep it at a medium heat for a while so the stressed cracks don't get frozen into place and make the glass super brittle.
Also don't forget that different kinds of glass have different coefficients of thermal expansion - make sure the glass rod you're using is the same glass as the bottle. You may need to buy an overpriced bottle from the head shop to ensure this is the case.
Use a hardware store blowtorch (simple and cheep).
Make sure to try to heat everything as evenly as you can even though you are going to want to heat part of the bottle more. Otherwise you may end up with thermal stress and the glass could break.
Also, as said by DishingShitLikeA, make sure to let it cool slowly (you can set it on a CLEAN shop rag or something, just dont subject it to cold air or water).
This. You want something with the opening 25% down so when you drink, 75% will be below the opening. There would be some kind of straw so it wouldn't so be awkward to drink.
Probably as simple as a 750ml bottle with a floating plug shaped to block the neck once approximately 187.5ml of displacement. Turn bottle upside down and let gravity perform the "engineering".
Simple, 75% of the vessel has a check valve on one side, the remaining portion of the vessel is 25% of the volume. When 25% is emptied turn to the other side to pour the other 75.
auto_turret ago
Klein bottle.. keep 75% of the liquid in the body, and 25% in the stem. I guess..
Doglegwarrior ago
Looks cool but dont think it would bebvery good for pouring? Maybe have cork stopper with a dispenser ?
ThisNameAlreadyTaken ago
You remember that scene from The Princess Bride with the iocane powder?
There is something similar to that in real life. This idea is many centuries old.
You can make a teapot that has poison in half of it, if you hold the pot in a certain way it will pour out the poison for your enemy. Then you pour your own cup and hold the pot in another way, and it will pour the normal tea, and you won't die.
This is called "The Assasin's Teapot" if you want to do more research. There is a brief video showing its use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkrgUT70Mbo
HomerChimpson ago
I just bought the wife an aerator that attaches to the top of wine bottles. It dispenses with the push of a button while aerating the wine.
It says it can be used with whiskey. There is a hose that extends into the bottle. You could just cut the hose at 25% of the bottle depth. This is the easiest way to accomplish what you want
Doglegwarrior ago
Jesus crist man! That is the best answer ive seen so far! Briliant. I could glue the fucking thing on or attach it permanetly so i couldnt get to more. Thanks man glad i posted here.
ChaoticNeutral ago
A Soxhlet extractor from chemistry would do that for you. You would have to put the inlet at the 75% mark. A chemistry glass blower could easily make it for you.
Google ‘Soxhlet Extrector Principle’ for examples.
Doglegwarrior ago
Jesus christ i googled that and a lot of confusing stuff came up.
DeliciousOnions ago
Dude my first search pulled up the Wikipedia page, which has an animation of it working. Use DuckDuckGo, it's less pozzed than Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soxhlet_extractor
ChaoticNeutral ago
lol I’ll try to find you a gif one one in action. I’m taking the principal and modifying it for what you want.
Doglegwarrior ago
Got u the damn diagrams that first popped up were really far out there.
Doglegwarrior ago
Pm me. I can either try to find one around here to buy or i could buy one from you? Take my idea and run with it i think there would be a market if you did it right.. i think it needs to be tough though.. not sure how strong the things you are talking about are?
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Computergeek01 ago
something like an automatic shot pourer?
WhiteRonin ago
Buy a bottle that’s 25% of the column of your target bottle.
So you are saying 25% or each pour so that’s a calculus limit question. So you want 25% of 1ml too?
FrozenFire74 ago
Place an insert in the cup above the 75% level, and put a hole near the edge of the circle that is furthest from the spout. As you pour from the cup, the insert will block the liquid from coming out since the hole will remain higher than the liquid within. It's not a perfect system, but after tinkering with it for a bit, you'll find the spot you need.
ShineShooter ago
A glass stem. Pass it through the cork, reaching down near the bottom of the bottle. Adjust the height to keep more/less liquid inside when pouring.
Plant_Boy ago
75% of the bottle or 75% of the contents?
In both cases, invariably yes.
Doglegwarrior ago
I want to keep 75 percent of the liquid in at all times? So you can only pour 25 percent out then u have to add more to the mix to be able to drink more?
Plant_Boy ago
You could make a piston type valve that can only go 25% out of the bottle before the diameter of the piston... axle is too wide for the bottle opening, so plugging the bottle. So decanting only 25% of the bottle.
Secondly, you could get one of those pouring measurers they use for mixing cocktails but make the volume measured 1/4 of the bottle. I think it's 2 valves similar to a cistern in a toilet with the leaver being either gravity or a cup being pushed up to the release valve.
Thirdly you could try and construct something using fluid pressures, head height and gravity. Where you have two cylinders, one cylinder is a quarter the diameter of the bottle cylinder, both bottles sitting at the same height side by side. The two bottles are connected in such a way that the head height will be equal not in use. A 2 action valve, again, on the bottom of the 1/4 measure bottle would release from your source bottle into your 1/4 bottle and then plug it when the fluid is released from the 1/4 bottle. I would draw a diagram but my current computer isn't too good with graphics...
Doglegwarrior ago
Going to say this with out feeling bad for my self i think you are smarter then me and i have to do some real home work on this subject.
Plant_Boy ago
Just spit-balling ideas...
Morbo ago
Search for "metered pour spouts" or "measured pour spouts". They are type of speed pour bottle nozzle that uses a special check valve to meter out a specific amount of liquor in each pour. You could get a 1oz metered pour and knowing the bottle capacity pour out only the amount you designate while leaving a known amount behind. This should work well for your infinity bottle in both drinking it and adding to it. You can get them in lots of portion volumes and they are priced very reasonably. You may want to invest in some all stainless steel ones to keep your whiskey untainted though.
Caveman_in_a_suit ago
Put a deflated balloon inside the bottle, but leave the opening outside of the bottle so you can fill the balloon. Fill it with the 75% volume of the bottle, then tie off the balloon and push the tied end into the bottle. Then add the remaining 25% of the liquid to the bottle.
Doglegwarrior ago
Well that would work but i want to add new liqued that mixes but only want to be able to pour 25 percent out? Its for an infinity bottle.
https://www.oldliquorsmagazine.com/whiskey-forever-building-the-infinity-bottle/
Caveman_in_a_suit ago
I see. Why not just get a set of smaller bottles that are exactly 25% of the volume of the larg bottle, then fill each of the small ones as you create new mixes over time? This would allow you to label and compare results in chronological order, and in theory you could recreate an especially good blend thereby.
Doglegwarrior ago
Hmm ya not bad. Im trying to make it impossible to get at the 75 percent. Because you know 1 drink means 25 drinks sometimes? Dont want the temptation to drink the entire thing. Maybe a bottlenthat you tip and it pours into another attached bottle but at a certain angle it closes off and only 25 percent getd out?
Caveman_in_a_suit ago
So, kind of like a toilet tank flapper
noxiousnick ago
Just get some self control.
Doglegwarrior ago
Lol! Kiss theory in action. Like i said hey lets just have one drink 10 drinks later what the fuck happend! We drank all the eternity scotch! Lol but i do agree self control would be the easiest plan
PewterKey ago
Sounds like you are designing a liquid based explosive, particularly the ones that got liquids banned on flights. A 25% top that let's you drink, 75% bottom that is a base for an explosive.
Leonidas4Q ago
Paranoid to think he is looking to design a bomb to be used on airplanes, but probably accurate.
TheCompanionCube ago
Is that you Clippy?
Doglegwarrior ago
Lol! No man but that is interesting. Im thinking of this
https://www.oldliquorsmagazine.com/whiskey-forever-building-the-infinity-bottle/
BanCircumcision ago
Tales from the Crypt - Demon Knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6XT6Xj7Whs
Doglegwarrior ago
No clue why u linked that
RedditSureDoesSuck ago
He's an intactivist freak.
15728986? ago
pee trap bottle would do the trick, with the head going down %75 of the bottle
DishingShitLikeA ago
Easy to do. Buy a glass downstem from a hemp shop. Melt it and the bottle together. You could even use a glass stopper due to the tapered fittings. Classy! @Doglegwarrior
Doglegwarrior ago
Hmmm i am not sure exactly what this is but im not a retard despite what the trolls on here claim. I think you described it enough i can figure it out. The melting part is what is giving me pause.
DishingShitLikeA ago
Looking back through my comments I just realized there is a glaring flaw in this design. You would be unable to fill it by pouring in past 25%. That neck (downstem) that goes down 75% of the bottle would have to be removable. Otherwise the air or liquid trapped inside would seal it at 25%.
The fix isn't any more difficult than what was discussed earlier. Only change is that intsead of melting a downstem into the top of the bottle, you would cut off the very top of the bottle where the cap would go and replace it with a tapered ground glass fitting for the downstem to go into. It's exactly like making a bong.
Go to any hemp shop worth their salt and they will know exactly what I'm talking about. They should be able to provide you with the parts you need.
Or just tell them what you want and they can make it if they blow their own glass.
Doglegwarrior ago
Thanks for the follow up i need to look for a good glass blower. I have a 43 year old bottle of scotch im saving for dick chenneys death that would be a good one to start my infinity bottle with.
DishingShitLikeA ago
It would be a little pricey but if you have them start from scratch the bottle could be super fancy looking and unique.
Doglegwarrior ago
Worth it to mw if it works
DishingShitLikeA ago
Another thought: the stem is going to need an interference angle with the bottle. Otherwise the sugar from the alcohol is going to get it stuck. Maybe the glass blowers have a grinding stone capable of this. If not you could carefully chuck the downstem in a drill and create the angle with a sanding block or sharpening stone. After that lap it for a perfect seal. You don't need to buy anything special for this, some simple rubbing or polishing compound will work fine. It won't take much lapping at all, don't overdo it.
I'm thinking about this so much because now I want to make one! Haha
Doglegwarrior ago
Make 2 so i can buy one. 2 liters would be a good amount
DishingShitLikeA ago
Haha I'll let you know. In the meantime don't abandon your own project.
DeliciousOnions ago
Get a MAP gas torch with a wide spread tip and a heat gun, keep the glass evenly heated and the bottle as warm as possible even though it's only the neck you're actually working on. The idea is to avoid sharp temperature changes because that's how glass shatters.
Then when you have it how you like, take it to a pottery class near you (community college) and ask them to temper the glass. Basically just keep it at a medium heat for a while so the stressed cracks don't get frozen into place and make the glass super brittle.
Also don't forget that different kinds of glass have different coefficients of thermal expansion - make sure the glass rod you're using is the same glass as the bottle. You may need to buy an overpriced bottle from the head shop to ensure this is the case.
level_101 ago
Use a hardware store blowtorch (simple and cheep).
Make sure to try to heat everything as evenly as you can even though you are going to want to heat part of the bottle more. Otherwise you may end up with thermal stress and the glass could break.
Also, as said by DishingShitLikeA, make sure to let it cool slowly (you can set it on a CLEAN shop rag or something, just dont subject it to cold air or water).
DishingShitLikeA ago
Super easy and inexpensive. Whatever you do just let it cool slowly.
DishingShitLikeA ago
Just buy some naphtha gas from your hardware store. It will get the glass hot enough to smoosh together. Think propane but hotter.
Rajadog20 ago
This. You want something with the opening 25% down so when you drink, 75% will be below the opening. There would be some kind of straw so it wouldn't so be awkward to drink.
QuickMafs ago
Are you drunk?
Doglegwarrior ago
https://www.oldliquorsmagazine.com/whiskey-forever-building-the-infinity-bottle/
This is why
QuiteEasilyAmused ago
So.. why not just pour in approximately 75% and sealing the bottle?
Without more context the purpose sounds pointless.
Doglegwarrior ago
https://www.oldliquorsmagazine.com/whiskey-forever-building-the-infinity-bottle/
QuiteEasilyAmused ago
Probably as simple as a 750ml bottle with a floating plug shaped to block the neck once approximately 187.5ml of displacement. Turn bottle upside down and let gravity perform the "engineering".
DishingShitLikeA ago
With this design it would have to sink. Not float.
Doglegwarrior ago
This sounds like the ticket. Will have to look into this.
Demonsweat2 ago
A check valve can do that.
YugeDick ago
Then how will the 25% get out?
Demonsweat2 ago
Simple, 75% of the vessel has a check valve on one side, the remaining portion of the vessel is 25% of the volume. When 25% is emptied turn to the other side to pour the other 75.
drakesdoom2 ago
You could put a lid on it.
DishingShitLikeA ago
So simple it hurts.
sakuramboo ago
Did you say "Put a Lid On It"?
blagjesus ago
i was hoping that this was the vid :)