When people say quran or bible I loosely interpret this to mean vaguely religious rules, laws. Islamic law is based on these accounts too, obviously you know that better than most. I don't think mistating corrected facts is enjoyable or enlightening in a conversation, but I also haven't brought up the origins of / missing scriptures / books for a long while in life because it's usually moot.
I do think arguing, say, "Islamic Law is a meddlesome farse" makes sense, and I'd honestly stick to just not banning anything so we can evolve and nurture critical thought. Muslims have a sordid history here.
But Hisham did basically get to Iraq then spilled the beans in old age. Yeah, so that guy, praise be upon him blah, fuckered kids. Real dirty.
There wasn't even denial of this then. He named names, like Aisha -- one of his 4 children. He fucked his own kids?
Now people arbitrarily or politically decide that was wishful thinking. Sure was an oddly enchanting story for a long time though. Porn usually is, but I've never been pissed if the wrong issue of Playboy is mentioned in relation to some specific exploits.
There wasn't even denial of this then. He named names, like Aisha -- one of his 4 children. He fucked his own kids?
What? Where did you get that from? You know that there is more than one person in the world named Aisha, right? I have never heard of any scripture that would imply Aisha was his own daughter, especially since it contradicts the ahadith saying that she lived with her parents after their initial betrothal.
Now people arbitrarily or politically decide that was wishful thinking. Sure was an oddly enchanting story for a long time though. Porn usually is, but I've never been pissed if the wrong issue of Playboy is mentioned in relation to some specific exploits.
It's like when people claim the bible talks about the fall/rebellion of satan or that the devil is lucifer according to the bible. None of those things are in the bible, they're part of some medieval christian fanfiction called "paradise lost". It's still part of the mainstream christian myth, but especially when someone says "we should ban book X because it says something", it's idiotic.
People can hate islam without read the koran or the ahadith, they have plenty of reason to do so. But when you attempt to make factual statements about the contents of those books without ever having read at least part of them, it just makes the person look like a drooling retard who has never actually read the things he criticizes.
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Saufsoldat ago
It's not. Boy, that was easy.
PapShamir ago
When people say quran or bible I loosely interpret this to mean vaguely religious rules, laws. Islamic law is based on these accounts too, obviously you know that better than most. I don't think mistating corrected facts is enjoyable or enlightening in a conversation, but I also haven't brought up the origins of / missing scriptures / books for a long while in life because it's usually moot.
I do think arguing, say, "Islamic Law is a meddlesome farse" makes sense, and I'd honestly stick to just not banning anything so we can evolve and nurture critical thought. Muslims have a sordid history here.
But Hisham did basically get to Iraq then spilled the beans in old age. Yeah, so that guy, praise be upon him blah, fuckered kids. Real dirty.
There wasn't even denial of this then. He named names, like Aisha -- one of his 4 children. He fucked his own kids?
Now people arbitrarily or politically decide that was wishful thinking. Sure was an oddly enchanting story for a long time though. Porn usually is, but I've never been pissed if the wrong issue of Playboy is mentioned in relation to some specific exploits.
Saufsoldat ago
What? Where did you get that from? You know that there is more than one person in the world named Aisha, right? I have never heard of any scripture that would imply Aisha was his own daughter, especially since it contradicts the ahadith saying that she lived with her parents after their initial betrothal.
It's like when people claim the bible talks about the fall/rebellion of satan or that the devil is lucifer according to the bible. None of those things are in the bible, they're part of some medieval christian fanfiction called "paradise lost". It's still part of the mainstream christian myth, but especially when someone says "we should ban book X because it says something", it's idiotic.
People can hate islam without read the koran or the ahadith, they have plenty of reason to do so. But when you attempt to make factual statements about the contents of those books without ever having read at least part of them, it just makes the person look like a drooling retard who has never actually read the things he criticizes.