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NoRoyalty ago

Your post confirms my own experience with a friend who is Mormon. She has a reverence for Jewish people and I have observed that her fellow church members seem to cherry-pick from the Old Testament, even referring to Sunday as the Sabbath.

70times7 ago

Saturday is the sabbath of Creation/4th commandment.

Sunday is the day of antichrist Rome.

analyticalalligator ago

Sunday is the day of the resurrection. Saturday was the day Christ was dead and descended into hell to free the dead.

I could go on, but I'll just leave it at, we're not Jews. We don't cut off pieces of our dick's and we don't go to Temple on Saturday.

We break bread and celebrate Christ's resurrection on Sunday like the Paul in acts 20:7.

We've been doing it that way for 2000 years. If you think that's demonic then something is wrong with you.

70times7 ago

The sabbath was hallowed on day 7 of creation. 2000 years before a jew existed.

Has nothing to do with jews. Or sin. Or Christs death and resurrection.

You need a new excuse to transgress Gods law.

analyticalalligator ago

God established a new creation through Christ. We are not of the old, we are of the new.

70times7 ago

Oh, was unaware you are living on an entirely "new" planet.

Must be nice.

Back in reality, those of us living on the planet God actually created, who accept His authority over us, we remember His 7th day sabbath as He commands us to.

The 7th day sabbath He hallowed before sin entered this world. The 7th day sabbath of His 4th commandment.

Revelation 14:12 - Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

See the word "and" in that verse?

analyticalalligator ago

2 Corinthians 5:17

Acts 15

Genesis 17:9

70times7 ago

Any of the other commandments God wrote himself on stone done away with? Or only the one that literally tells us to "Remember" it?

We can kill now? Steal? Adultery? Bow to statues?

Matthew 5:18 - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

All things have not been fulfilled. Satan and his angels are still here. Romes mark of authority has not yet been enforced. The last 7 plagues have not occurred. The earth has not been made new. The city of new jerusalem has not descended.

Why then are you teaching Gods law has been done away with? Jesus spoke of people that would do that.

Matthew 5:19 - Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Someone has taught you so, and now you are teaching others so.

Once again, the 7th day was hallowed during creation. It has nothing to do with sin. It has nothing to do with salvation. It has nothing to do with Jesus' death or resurrection.

It is a memorial of Gods creation that was created FOR MAN. 2000 years BEFORE a jew was ever born.

everlastingphelps ago

We aren't under the Law of Israel. The keeping of the Sabbath is strictly Law of Moses, which was Completed in Christ.

Other commandments that we can do away with? Absolutely. Not eating pork. Not eating shellfish. Not throwing women out of the house when they are on the rag. Not circumcising in the flesh. Not ritually washing in a mikvah.

You're playing a stupid game. God gave the 10 commandments first, but he didn't raise them above the rest of the Law. He expected the entire law to followed by the Hebrews. Those are the people Jesus was speaking to in the Beatitudes (Matthew 5) -- the unsaved. Jews. No JEW will make it to the kingdom of heaven without the Law. We aren't Jews.

70times7 ago

Trouble is, you are ignorant of the law and its meaning.

Gods moral law, His 10 commandments never saved a single soul.

"All" they do is tell us "what" sin is. Thats it. 1st John 3:4 says "sin is transgression of the law"

And paul said he would not know lust, except the law told him not to covet.

The law is a schoolmaster.

Now, "because" mankind did not keep the 10, God gave the salvation law. The law that "would" save people. The prophetic law foretelling Jesus Christ. Using the feast days, the temple services and the rest to illustrate the "type/antitype" of Christs mission.

That is why Christ said He came to "fulfill" the law. The prophetic law that was given "because" of sin.

He was not speaking of the 10 commandments. You can "fulfill" the 10 commandments, as much as you can "fulfill" the speed limit on a highway. You cant. There is nothing to fulfill. Only obey.

Christ obeyed the 10. Fulfilled the ceremonial.

The sabbath was hallowed during creation 2000 years before jacobs kids (jews) were around.

Has nothing to do with jews.

Adam and Eve were not jews. Neither was noah, job, abraham, methusalah, issac and thousands of others.

Yet the sabbath was hallowed on day 7. (after man was created)

It is a memorial of creation for all time.

And God wrote it in stone. For you.

everlastingphelps ago

You need to pray until you can get past your circumcised vs uncircumcised heresy. Exodus 20 is still required, because God put them on stone (the second time at least) but Exodus 21 is out? Sacrificing first fruits from Exodus 22? Why has God denied the earth a Temple if we are required to continue sacrifices under Exodus?

You sound like a Jew. "Oy vey, just because God said it, if he really meant it he would have put it on stone (and let it get smashed and then put it on stone again.)"

70times7 ago

The 10 tells us what "is" sin.

The others were added "because" of sin.

Bottom line.

After Christ ascended, the words were penned "ALL have sinned".

John says sin is "transgression of the law".

If all have sinned, then the law stands. Otherwise there is no sin. As sin is "transgression of the law".

The law that is our school master.

The law God Himself wrote.

I do wonder though, if as you say the law is gone, why do you need a savior?

everlastingphelps ago

Because if you cannot find the Kingdom of God through the Law, you can only find it through the Son.

70times7 ago

Is the kingdom of God righteousness?

Know that righteousness literally means "right doing".

Know what the Law God wrote with His own hand shows?

Right doing. Thats it.

Christ promised He would write the law in our hearts and minds.

The law of "right doing".

It would be so infinitely clearer if you truly, and i mean truly, understood the difference in the 2 laws.

Please listen for 30 seconds...

God wrote one law/covenant. On STONE. With His own hand. And had it placed "in" the ark.

Moses wrote the other. On paper/scrolls. With his hand. And placed it at the "side" of the ark.

God wanted to make a covenant with the hebrews. So He asked them (literally) if they would obey His commands. They agreed. But they were terrified of His voice. So they requested only Moses do the actual signing/receiving/agreeing to the covenant.

So Moses went up onto the mountain and God wrote Him out the 10 laws He wanted obeyed. 10 requirements, that if were transgressed, would nullify the covenant.

As Moses was on the mountain, the hebrews that agreed to the deal, broke the deal. With their golden calf sex majik orgy.

God told Moses what was happening, that they were breaking the covenant they agreed to, so Moses went down the mountain and saw with his own eyes. He saw them breaking the covenant with his own eyes. In his grief/despair/shock, he slammed the 10 laws of the covenant on the ground. Just as the hebrews symbolically had done themselves.

God recalled Moses up the mountain and told Moses He was going to destroy them. Moses pleaded for Him not to, and God agreed.

But the covenant had been broken. Within days. They all were damned.

But God gave another way out. He gave Moses a new law. A prophetic law. A law of ceremony, feasts and ritual that was symbolic of the salvation He would give for breaking the 1st covenant.

Symbolic of His Sons life/mission/death and resurrection to atone for the breaking of the original (10 commandments) covenant the hebrews entered into.

2 separate laws. Do you see how it was 2?

One law told the hebrews what "was" sin.

One law told the hebrews how God would "save" them from sin.

Christ obeyed the 10. Christ fulfilled the ceremonial.

You must surely see this difference between the two.