It's a common shill tactic to "just ask questions". It's a form of concern trolling that leaves plausible deniability to those that aren't aware, or haven't seen it enough to recognize it.
Asking questions is not always an innocent thing, and when it's bumping a blackpill narrative, it's healthy to be skeptical.
I've been wrong, but I admit when I am. Take a look at the difference between how the users reacted to being called out.
People change and especially the ones who don't live on voat. I see mumbleberry pointing out a group of paid indian shills and pv doing jack all about it but this guys getting called a shill for wanting answers.
PV is a place to highlight bullshit. Each goat gets to view the arguments and respond as he so chooses. What I see there is some niche sub, by virtue of the fact that nobody really uses the word "automobile" anymore, that wants to act like numerous other niche subs.
The problem is quarantined to that user's subverse(s), and without Putt, there's really nothing we can do but shame bad mods.
What I do - what I've always done - is find patterns or inconsistencies or evidence that a user might be lying/subverting/acting in bad faith. If you don't agree, that's fine, but I'm not going to stop.
If you were paying attention, only people that don't belong here, or SaneGoat et al., but I repeat myself, ping Putt. The rest of us know better.
This narrative has been pushed multiple times daily now, and I find it hard to believe this many "lurkers" haven't seen it.
Since OP changed his posting style recently, and managed to accuse many here of being "SRS", it's really not that much of a stretch to find him suspicious of being a certain other kind of "user" here that pings Putt and calls people they don't like SRS.
Imagine having his username stats and feeling entitled enough to an answer from Putt that you ping him.
Sbbh spent an entire day making posts pinging putt and in the comments like three days ago. I don't know this user or see them around but I think it's fairnto be suspicious at this point. Sure it's rude as fuck to ping putt given all the shit he gets.
Sbbh spent an entire day making posts pinging putt and in the comments like three days ago.
Let me clarify:
Putt doesn't check his pings. He stopped because of SaneGoat pinging him 100s-1000s of times per day. If they're circle-jerking about it, they're not feeling entitled to a response from the solo owner of this website that has a full time job and a life outside of Voat.
This user was very clearly expecting a response.
I don't know this user or see them around but I think it's fairnto be suspicious at this point.
I comment when I find things that aren't quite right.
Sure it's rude as fuck to ping putt given all the shit he gets.
It is. I find it to be an egregious faux pas to do so and expect a response. Especially to a user with such low contribution/time stats. Dude is not important.
Not saying that's a requisite thing, but the entitlement suggests something is not quite right.
It does seem like a psyop against Voat, and with a sleeper account pinging putt, then calling me SRS, it really isn't too much of a stretch to figure out who is behind it.
not necessarily. but plenty of us consider it kind of suspicious, and it is. i personally tend to reserve judgement until flagrant shillery occurs, but i can see where the logic comes from.
it definitely doesnt take every minute of the day to not seem suspicious, though.
there is a real conspiracy (inasmuch as the usual shills that took over basically everywhere else on the internet are also operating here) goin on around here ya know! if ya wanna be suspicious, then people are gonna suspect you of stuff!
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Venturer ago
@PuttItOut ?
Crensch ago
"User" with 2.8 years and ~700scp and ccp pings Putt.
You are insignificant, and have zero reason to be pinging the owner of this website.
And also probably part of the shill blackpill brigade.
I_Would_Gas_You ago
He's not allowed to ask questions? You need to be a power user to want answers? Come on man are you a sjw now?
Crensch ago
It's a common shill tactic to "just ask questions". It's a form of concern trolling that leaves plausible deniability to those that aren't aware, or haven't seen it enough to recognize it.
Asking questions is not always an innocent thing, and when it's bumping a blackpill narrative, it's healthy to be skeptical.
I've been wrong, but I admit when I am. Take a look at the difference between how the users reacted to being called out.
Enjoy the read.
I_Would_Gas_You ago
People change and especially the ones who don't live on voat. I see mumbleberry pointing out a group of paid indian shills and pv doing jack all about it but this guys getting called a shill for wanting answers.
NoBS ago
People can be manufactured even easier.
Putt is dead and his owners are OK with that.
Crensch ago
PV is a place to highlight bullshit. Each goat gets to view the arguments and respond as he so chooses. What I see there is some niche sub, by virtue of the fact that nobody really uses the word "automobile" anymore, that wants to act like numerous other niche subs.
The problem is quarantined to that user's subverse(s), and without Putt, there's really nothing we can do but shame bad mods.
What I do - what I've always done - is find patterns or inconsistencies or evidence that a user might be lying/subverting/acting in bad faith. If you don't agree, that's fine, but I'm not going to stop.
Crensch ago
If you were paying attention, only people that don't belong here, or SaneGoat et al., but I repeat myself, ping Putt. The rest of us know better.
This narrative has been pushed multiple times daily now, and I find it hard to believe this many "lurkers" haven't seen it.
Since OP changed his posting style recently, and managed to accuse many here of being "SRS", it's really not that much of a stretch to find him suspicious of being a certain other kind of "user" here that pings Putt and calls people they don't like SRS.
Imagine having his username stats and feeling entitled enough to an answer from Putt that you ping him.
I_Would_Gas_You ago
Sbbh spent an entire day making posts pinging putt and in the comments like three days ago. I don't know this user or see them around but I think it's fairnto be suspicious at this point. Sure it's rude as fuck to ping putt given all the shit he gets.
Crensch ago
Let me clarify:
Putt doesn't check his pings. He stopped because of SaneGoat pinging him 100s-1000s of times per day. If they're circle-jerking about it, they're not feeling entitled to a response from the solo owner of this website that has a full time job and a life outside of Voat.
This user was very clearly expecting a response.
I comment when I find things that aren't quite right.
It is. I find it to be an egregious faux pas to do so and expect a response. Especially to a user with such low contribution/time stats. Dude is not important.
Not saying that's a requisite thing, but the entitlement suggests something is not quite right.
Bob_Ross_Hair ago
I knew I’d see this very post when I read the title. Hello Crensch.
Crensch ago
It does seem like a psyop against Voat, and with a sleeper account pinging putt, then calling me SRS, it really isn't too much of a stretch to figure out who is behind it.
albatrosv15 ago
So with this logic @maxcactus should be our admin or something?
Crensch ago
False dichotomy, but nice try, Moshe.
Le_Squish ago
You'll love this comment of OPs:
Crensch ago
That and these DOWNVOTES. LOOK at the shills coming out of the woodwork like sniffling little Jews.
Le_Squish ago
It's easy to tell when you've irritated them. They can't be content to just ignore you.
Venturer ago
Nice cherry picking ya got there.
I still stand by my statement.
People are retarded and will still support Israel no matter what.
It's the duty of evidence to show that Israel is wrong. Even know we all know it. It must be proven.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Also new SRS method of the week? Claim people are SRS, to divert attention from themselves?
Le_Squish ago
Did you buy this account on blackhatworld?
Venturer ago
Wait I can sell this account? What do I get in return 3 shekels?
Venturer ago
I must of missed the memo that the users of a platform are insignificant.
MinorLeakage ago
No, he said YOU are insignificant. There is no way 10 actual Voaters upvoated your shit response. Try harder next time faggots.
Le_Squish ago
You aren't a user though...you a shill.
Venturer ago
Evidence where? Fuck of SRS
xenoPsychologist ago
the evidence would be the low contribution values of a sleeper account. while not a perfect metric, its a red flag for sure.
NoBS ago
Your red flag has requires emotional dependence. Not too bad for a psychological operational agent provocateur. Hat tip.
xenoPsychologist ago
does it? and emotional dependence of whom, on what? please explain. it would be good to learn something interesting today.
NoBS ago
Before you demand others to manufacture wisdom, try getting off your lazy ass and earning knowledge the only way possible, work for it.
xenoPsychologist ago
so nothing, gotcha. didnt think your comment had any merit.
NoBS ago
Still trying to get others to do the heavy lifting? Lazy assed punk demanding merit now. Please child, earn it and be a (wo)man for once.
xenoPsychologist ago
you made a claim. you can either provide evidence or itll be justly disregarded.
none of what you had said made sense. theres nothing that anyone but you can do about that.
Venturer ago
So contributions consistently though not every minute of the day for the last 3 years = sleeper account?
xenoPsychologist ago
not necessarily. but plenty of us consider it kind of suspicious, and it is. i personally tend to reserve judgement until flagrant shillery occurs, but i can see where the logic comes from.
it definitely doesnt take every minute of the day to not seem suspicious, though.
there is a real conspiracy (inasmuch as the usual shills that took over basically everywhere else on the internet are also operating here) goin on around here ya know! if ya wanna be suspicious, then people are gonna suspect you of stuff!