A moderator of /v/Pizzagate accused me of being a David Brock shill, yesterday. I feel like I have been able to provide plenty of evidence to the contrary. AMA.

A moderator of /v/Pizzagate accused me of being a David Brock shill, yesterday. I feel like I have been able to provide plenty of evidence to the contrary. AMA. (thewebofslime)

submitted 5.3 years ago by thewebofslime

But I can provide more.

Do you care to address the false accusation @Vindicator? Maybe explain your line of reasoning? If not, I would be willing to accept an apology for the insults and the false accusation.

I'm happy to have a conversation about it that would seek to alleviate anyone's concerns.

I operate completely transparent where my research is totally public and I post all rough drafts in many places so that everyone can see the logical evolution of my conclusions.

In fact, I even offered up a suggestion on how a small group of people could completely decimate David Brock's operation while driving up shill costs here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3106114

This is far from the first time I have published such ideas and materials, but they never get traction because I do not employ artificial impressions.

I have also been a staunch critic of David Brock since long before Pizzagate. Again, my posting history, going years back, speaks for itself.

I am the best example of an "anti-shill" that I am aware of. I would, of course, be curious in other examples, because I would like to learn more.

The best way to catch liars is to set honesty traps. The funny thing about honesty traps is that honest people don't fall for them. What say you @Vindicator, do you stand by your accusation?

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Vindicator 5.3 years ago

A moderator of /v/Pizzagate accused me of being a David Brock shill, yesterday.

Oh, really? Where did that happen?

I notice you don't provide any links. Nor any quotes. This isn't really surprising, since I never said it.

Now, why would you say I said something I never said? That doesn't seem like someone who just wants to help the investigation, WoS.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

You did.

Take a step back... because you did.

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Vindicator 5.3 years ago

No, I most certainly did not. If you are going to make a claim, you'd better be prepared to prove it.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

I'll get there.

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SandHog 5.3 years ago

Either he did or he didn't and I don't see any deleted posts in that v/pizzagate thread where he might have. Seems like an easy thing to prove if it what you claim is true. Everyone can see the mod logs here. No comments have been removed for the last two months.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

I included that information in my post, you can search the exact text for yourself.

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SandHog 5.3 years ago

Which post? there are like four of them.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

I edited the OP.

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SandHog 5.3 years ago

A moderator of /v/Pizzagate accused me of being a David Brock shill, yesterday.

I still don't see any evidence of that. Why don't you just link to the comment where he said it? Or was that just something you inferred based on your interpretation of a comment he made? I gotta say I'm entertaining the idea that you are over-reacting to a perceived slight here.

I'm trying to stay as neutral as I possibly can in all of this but you've made some serious accusations and I've not seen any real evidence that backs them up. There is evidence that you attracted someone's attention but that's to be expected when dealing with this subject. There are only 24 hours in a day and a lot of interested parties. I dunno man. From what I have seen thus far I think you are barking up the wrong tree and doing a disservice to yourself on account of it. Unless you have something more I'm really starting to question your logic here.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

"useless self aggrandizing baffle with bullshit like david brock shills do to send peopel down rabbit holes." but again... that isn't my primary concern. Just the timing of it.

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SandHog 5.3 years ago

I can see his point in that the behavior seems similar. I know Vindicator isn't a shill and I don't think you are either to be perfectly honest. So eh...

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

It would be a clever frame job, indeed. Before I got into this, I sent a message hoping to communicate that I wanted to have a polite conversation about it and that I would be on my best behavior. Hopefully, we can work around to that. I think I've successfully uncovered what is going on, but it took some serious help to figure it out. Serious help.

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SandHog 5.3 years ago

I am interested to see what you came up with. I'm assuming you are making a post about it somewhere?

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

Slowly. I am going to lose 99% of the people who follow me when I lay this out.

https://i.imgur.com/gG3YS35.png

Worth it.

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SandHog 5.3 years ago

Are you implying Q is a british intelligence op? Or am I missing something? I'm not up to speed on Tenet.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

I will walk this one out slowly, and not today.

It is going to be challenged ad nauseum, so I need to have my ducks in a row.

But go ahead and think about what you just read, because you are the one with the most level head, right now, of everyone who has been watching all this.

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srayzie 5.3 years ago

https://archive.fo/q1S7X

How have you been ThisIsTotallyNotMe?

@Vindicator @Shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Crensch

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

Talk about a false accusation. I don't even know who that is.

Because I disagree with something you believe in, I'm automatically this person? If that's what you want to believe okay.

I stated I was going to set an honesty trap, then I messaged Vindicator that I was going to be on my nest behavior while I did because I had help.

I was looking for shills.

Someone who was on my thread, went to my site, then started attacking.

They used a company device from CACI, which is a DIA contractor.

I couldn't tell if it was because I started talking about George Tenet, or not, so I was trying to rule out Vindicator, when I found THIS:

https://i.imgur.com/gG3YS35.png

So, CACI, attacked my site that has had like 200 visitors ever, is connected to a DIA intelligence group QinetiQ, who calls themselves Q and had for years.

It seems strange that Q would pick this name, if he was a high level insider and didn't want to be associated with George Tenet and the Mockingbird apparatus.

When you emotions settle down, consider looking at what I am telling you.

What I am showing you is factually a money trail between Allen & CO, who managed the merger between Fox & Disney and is slowly building a pyramidic monopoly on media, tech and politics, where people like Pelosi and Schumer are going to the "retreats."

The money trail is factual.

The social circles are factual.

The name "Q" is factual.

I am totally ready to entertain other theories, but then Vindicator happened to be the one who found the ignored Q post from years ago.

So, think for a second about my point of view, where I have my cousin, a professor of computer science, and his father, a lawyer, telling me that what I am looking at is real and to not say anything. I still feel an obligation to explain this because I have always been transparent in my research.

You, on the other hand, just jumped to a wild conclusion that I have an alt I've never heard of.

So, I hope you can get past the insults, which I have not been participating in, and think about what I am really telling you.

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srayzie 5.3 years ago

Qanon stands for Q clearance. Q access authorization is the Department of Energy (DOE) security clearance required to access Top Secret Restricted Data, Formerly Restricted Data, and National Security Information, as well as Secret Restricted Data

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

That is a perfectly valid way of looking at things. But, do you see where I am coming from? Don't you think it is unreasonable to accuse me of being someone else without any evidence? ISN'T THAT WHAT I AM BEING CRITICIZED FOR?

But I am literally asking you guys what is the best and most responsible way to present evidence for the benefit of the community, despite smart people telling me to say nothing.

So, I realize my posting has always made people emotional. But this is turning into a witch hunt against me, despite me holding the evidence of wrongdoing.

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srayzie 5.3 years ago

I’ve never had a problem with you until you went after @Vindicator and started looking into us pizzagate mods. Do you not see where we’re coming from? You don’t see how suspicious that looks? You are free to share your views on Q. I see it everyday. But I find your behavior suspicious. You’re focusing on us. We didn’t attack your fucking site. You’re making posts about us and trying to make us look guilty.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

I know YOU didn't. I absolutely know that.

But yeah... I'm no one to mess around with. I am a serious person who inflicts consequences. I don't live in a touchy feely world. I am after results and I am good at it. Yes, I am dangerous, but have I screwed anyone over, yet? Not any good people. I am asking for the best way to present evidence without doxing anyone.

And, to be fair, Vindicator went after me. I telegraphed the honesty trap, then sent a message to Vindicator stating that I was going to be on my best behavior because I brought in help and I didn't want to look like an ass to my family members.

Not only did Vindicator go after me, who has always been polite, previously, Crensch wanted to take a whack a while back, too. I'm after shills. People who attack me and are insulting and hostile are trying to shut down a conversation because they don't want to be forced to tell the truth. THAT is suspicious.

I don't see why my bheavior is suspicious. My posting history is 100% consistent over three years as Web of Slime. 100%. I've NEVER tried to lead anyone down the wrong path.

I am NOT calling for action to change pizzagate rules. I am NOT calling for action against mods. I AM asking for the best way to present evidence and, thus far, no one is really interested in that conversation. To me, that is the most suspicious part and I absolutely know you PERSONALLY are not responsible.

I'm being told not to say anything, at all. I do feel a little sense of obligation to the community, the the "consensus" is manufactured. I've watched people flip flop repeatedly and I never have.

So, people are demanding I apologize when I was the one who took being insulted and hacked with calm and politeness. That is called DARVO tactics and it is a sign of guilt.

So, you've said a numb er of things that aren't true about me, that you cannot prove. Are you willing to back track on those remarks? Because that is what everyone is asking me to do... even though I'm the one sitting with all the proof and asking how to present it.

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Vindicator 5.3 years ago

You obviously have no proof, or you would have presented it by now instead of all this virtue-signaling and pearl-clutching.

You are definitely full of shit, Mr. "Dangerous".

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

For entertainment purposes, only. Maybe you'll get it.

https://voat.co/v/whatever/2834917

I am just curious why you went from being cool to talking a lot of ***. Strikes me as odd. Also, I fixed my post, so you can change the flair. Ty.

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Vindicator 5.3 years ago

I found this entertaining: https://voat.co/v/whatever/2834917/14854082

Goats see right through you. Try Reddit.

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

I knew you would take that bait.

https://i.imgur.com/ODZ9Dhy.png

See you tomorrow.

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Vindicator 5.2 years ago

Hi Colin. See you tomorrow!

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

Also, while we're on the subject... I was just accused of not working to bring awareness to Pizzagate, in general.

Here are Twitter account impressions. Any idea what /v/Pizzagate sees in a month?

https://i.imgur.com/BERoc2F.png

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

In what form would you like me to present my evidence without doxing everyone?

Seriously... I'll go line by line and we can all sit and figure this out.

Maybe we can start with what brought upon your discovery of the IamQ post? I think that will help me put the last piece of information together.

Are you a Q believer? Neutral about it? Do you follow Qmap?

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Vindicator 5.3 years ago

I detailed exactly how I discovered the IamQ submissions in my post about it.

You've already behaved in a manner too dishonest for me to take anything you have to say seriously.

You claim to have evidence you can't use because it would expose people's real life identities, evidence of "shills participating in a criminal conspiracy" -- your words. It's obvious that is not true, because if it were, you would have immediately reported this to @PuttItOut, or at least to @Peaceseeker. A Voat moderator using Voat to launch cyber crime hacking attacks against the site of a Voat subscriber might make Voat criminally liable. If you'd reported it to Putt, I'd already have had my account banned sitewide.

Since none of that has happened, you're obviously fake and gay. You know it, I know it, everybody who reads this knows it. :-)

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thewebofslime 5.3 years ago

If it wasn't one of you, someone set you up, specifically, "like a m*f" to use the expression.

The attack has lead to some interesting discoveries. I told you what I was looking for. Shills. Instead... I found these people.

A Voat moderator using Voat to launch cyber crime hacking attacks

I NEVER made that accusation. You are putting words in my mouth.. a sign of guilt. Go ahead and link me your explanation. I'm curious. As it stands, you are either being "stubborn stupid" on purpose, because you can't even repeat stuff back without twisting it... or you are REALLY in the dark about someone using you as a pawn and you just aren't smart enough to figure out what my explanation of the attack was.

Nobody USED Voat to attack.

Someone came FROM Voat and THAT IP address attacked the site. Cut and paste stuff. Nothing fancy. The fancy stuff came later from different IP addresses. Go ahead and take a deep breath, because if you are legit... someone is setting you up.

I have been asking everyone the best way to present the evidence, but that conversation has been shut down by insults every time. I find that REALLY curious. I've literally asked about a dozen times. I found the first password in this group to be particularly coincidental.

[email protected] goatblower

[email protected] trolling

[email protected] babydoll

[email protected] babydoux

[email protected] thematrix

[email protected] scorpio

[email protected] 69tuchita6985

[email protected] rudem00d

[email protected] picojode

[email protected] Empire

[email protected] Peachfield1

[email protected] PhantomF4J