Ron Burkle was once besties with both Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. When Clinton flew on Burkle's private plane, a 757, it was jokingly known as "Air Fuck One."
Burkle tagged along on one of the four Clinton / Epstein around-the-world-tours on Epstein's plane the "Lolita Express." Burkle left the expedition along the way and flew home commercial, because he found Epstein "too weird." Burkle and Clinton later had a "falling out" over "something."
I too was fascinated by this! (Carm and I have been taking about R Burk!e for years) Totally no cause of death given for the son, you’re correct...hmmm.
Same with the 13 year old daughter of Ben Goldsmith and his ROTHSchi!d wife. Ok, in that instance there was some lame ‘she fell off a truck’ blah whatever, but the whole thing STANK.
The DM article was the first I'd heard of Burkle's son's death. Considering Bill Clinton and Burkle who were once very close allegedly had a "falling out" the nature of which is a mystery (AFAIK) it brings to mind Arkancide as a possibility. Following the "death" of Epstein it may well have been a warning for Burkle to keep his mouth shut. Though at his age the son may have joined the famed 27 club of rock stars and others who suffered unfortunate accidents, ODs and suicides.
You are right on the money. I am sure the kid was Arkancideddd as a warning to Burk!e. There was so much stuff about Burk!e and Air Fk One on the excellent GAWKER, back in the day as @carmencita knows. Look at the shady ass trail of creeps on Burk!e’s radar...
Kim Karda$$, P Hi!ton, Kim K’s best friend Brittny Gastineau were all ‘high class’ (LOL) hookers who would fly around on Burkle’s jet back in the day...P Hi!ton’s current globetrotting “DJ” career (LMAO) is just cover for human and drug trafficking. Her family more than likely involved. Share, share.
Thx for the Gawker links. Off on a tangent from Kim Karda$$, I've long thought that OJ's ex wife, the one he allegedly murdered, and her friends were operating as hi-class yacht girls and OJ's strange stalking behavior was not simply jealousy but partly out of concern that his kids might get pimped out. There was talk at the time that his defense team wanted to bring this out, but OJ forbid it, not wanting the kids to learn of their mother's behavior.
There was some ordinary restaurant in Marina del Rey where there was a weekly meet-up for participants involved in S&M. If you told the hostess you were there for the Munchkins or the Munchers you would be escorted to a private room. Just for meeting people, not for sex on the premises. OJ himself was involved in the drugs and sex milieu, reportedly partying with Dodi Al Fayed (Princess Diana's boyfriend) who was blowing $1,000 per week on coke for himself and friends, back when $1,000 was big money.
Wow. That’s a new take. I heard he took the rap for his son. There are a million stories in Pedo City but millions of answers. So they made him guilty to shut him up. Who knows what elites were involved with his wife. Who knows why Diana’s accident happened. Could be they wanted to bump him off.
I agree with the theory that he took the rap for his son, His son (Jason?) was a chef. Chefs are notoriously volatile. His son allegedly had a crush on Nicole and had a bag of chefs' knives in his car. The police said they checked him out and he had an alibi for the time of the murder, but in fact they only verified he was home and watching TV some hours earlier. I think someone called OJ and said Nicole and her friend had been murdered or there was "trouble" at Bundy, and OJ rushed over there which accounts for his DNA being there.
OJ soap opera: have always thought Occams Razor was true in this case ie simple explanation - the two dummies were getting high on their own supply case in point while squatting on someone else’s coke turf. Apparently the houseguest dude Cato was the one procuring the drugs as Juice couldn’t be seen to handle anything himself. Also, not the first time Juice had been busted. https://gangsterreport.com/o-j-simpson-drugs-the-juice-was-investigated-for-dope-dealing-as-an-nfl-player/
I think Jason showed up because cracked out Juice called him to the scene while he was freaking out. The killing method was way too sophisticated for it to be an amateur and had all the hallmarks of a classic hit. This has been well documented. OJ was protecting his kids by keeping his mouth shut. There are too many coincidences with related mob killings within months of Nicole/Ron murders for it all not to be connected. Other Simpson/Brown friends + associates kept their mouths shut because everyone was involved in their own shady shit. Karda$$ian Snr was part of that whole LA Armenian mafia and allegedly (LOL) involved in illegal sports betting, point shaving, porn, you name it. Its why Juice didn’t testify. He knew too much. Kris J would go down with Rob Snr so pointed finger at OJ. The current Karda$$s have so many skeletons and paid $$ for cover ups. Threatened to kill Robert Snrs last wife Ellen.
This all is what I’ve heard from a few very reliable sources over the years. Couldn’t work it into PGate relevancy before now, but well, here we are :)
Re Dodi A Fyd, I heard many years ago that the crash was in fact targeted at him. He was a well known drugs distribution guy and every knew how shady the dad (Mohammed A F) was with arms connections and Harrods laundering etc, cash for politicians and so on. Can’t have Royals and Kings associating with that particular brand of trash, LOL. :) (but somehow pedo princes in the family is ok, SMDH)
Thx. Did not know of Kardashian Snr's involvement with Armenia mafia or theory that Dodi was intended victim in the pont de l'Alma tunnel crash. Perhaps that was what my Parisian acquaintance had tracked down, resulting in the warning.
Dodi's uncle was billionaire arms dealer, Adnan Khashoggi, whose 2nd wife, Lamia, was a big-time Scientologist out of their Flagship Operation in Clearwater, FL.
A long time ago, I read somewhere that one of the first phone calls Ted Kennedy made after he pulled himself out of Chappaquiddick and dried off was to Paula Wagner, Scientologist Tom Cruise's co-producer (Cruise / Wagner Productions).
The connections are jaw dropping. Please post whatever you know. Would be great to get more direct links between the 90’s OJ players and anyone current. I wonder what Dershowitz told Epstein and pals (Prince Andy) about the case. I’m sure Andy was lapping up Dodi stories. Wonder if Andy and Dodi knew each other back then.
I know very little of $cientology world but no doubt they’re involved somehow.
I am certain Andy knew all about Dodi and his billionaire pops, as Andy is a world class grifter. Search on any combo of the following: Prince Andrew; Nursultan Nazarbayev, president of Kazakhstan; Frank Giustra, owner of Lionsgate films and the Vancouver Island estate currently occupied by Prince Harry and icy Principessa Markle; Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Uranium One. They are all in it together, whatever it is.
Frank Guistra actually came out saying the Vancouver island mansion the royals were staying at wasn’t his!! But then again, Frank Guistra is a complete and utter liar so it likely belongs to Lionsgate Films, makes sense.
Exactly. He speaks in Clinton-speak. One famous line a few years back was Hillary's, "I'm not gay." Which is accurate, because gay and lesbian are two separate categories as evidenced by LGBT, and she did not say, "I'm not a lesbian."
Guistra was another of Bill Clinton's pals on their travels to Kazakhstan, and also headed up the Canadian branch of the Clinton's many foundations, The Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (Canada), because Canada has different reporting requirements and at one point Bill & Hill claimed they were forbidden by Canadian law from revealing details of that scam. Don't know if Guistra ever flew along with Epstein or Burkle.
The Radar piece on Nicole & Dodi's argument is certainly news to me. Nicole is lucky that Dodi wasn't Saudi and traveled with his personal executioner with a golden scimitar or she might have... oh that's what did happen.
It shows that the whole OJ affair has fallen far out of the public's interest. At the time of the murders and the two trials I was involved in a Usenet group (Ask grandpa what those were. It took two weeks for messages to "bicycle" around the world from one university to another and it was censored by self-important SysOps who would declare messages they didn't like as Spam and put the messager on a Spam List.)
The group was largely anti-OJ but we had people posting from the library of Congress, where we found the LA Times had removed an article from their on-line edition, but it existed in a print edition. Also a team at the court house in the San Fernando valley investigating claims by a Mafia moll from Chicago that she was the intended victim. (She had some dispute with her mob hubby and her house had burned down, so it was a credible lead). As I recall, one person had a legit travel agency placing public ads for underaged sex tours to Southeast Asia, which they shut down after someone pointed out the illegality. I think it was the first time citizens could participate in a murder trial with full TV coverage and actual court transcripts available that evening.
The only unusual things I recall, other than the biz about the munch bunch:
The coroner accidentally losing the contents of Nicole's stomach, but not Ron's. Presumably because there were unsavory left-overs from sex in the mix. (In those days everyone assumed semen, but with we know these days it might have been a John Deere tractor.)
The coroner mentioning he was not able to take clippings from Ron's fingernails, because they were filed down, which is something a waiter might do, but which is also associated with a sex act.
Marcia Clark was, if I recall, at one time married to a Scientologist, who was a gambler and had played backgammon with OJ. Also, her neighbors hated her, because she'd throw loud parties with cars blocking their driveways. When they complained to her, SHE would call the police and have all of THEIR cars towed. It was widely reported she'd interview witnesses (especially Kato) in her office and toss them a pretzel whenever they gave her a "right" answer.
On the royal front, at one point during the trial, a British princess (I think it was Margaret) was in town, and LA society, such as it is, threw a big dinner in her honor, with everybody expecting to provide her with the latest salacious details. They were horribly disappointed to find she had no interest whatsoever.
Author Dominick Dunne who covered the OJ affair, had a daughter murdered by stabbing by a boyfriend chef. The chef was convicted and got off with a slap-on-the-wrist, but it probably colored Dunne's reporting.
LOL, asked Grandpa Google about UseNet :) Sounds slow!
WOW. This is bomb. I spent years researching Michael Nigg, Brett Cantor, mob connections, turfs wars etc. Even went down some obscure hole involving Ron Goldman’s stepfather back in Chicago and his own falling out with gangsters. So many threads. Folks can draw their own conclusions. Not that anyone’s still interested. “Who?” - Millennials.
LOL if someone wants to start a “Shady Princess Margaret” thread I’d sure enjoy it! D Dunne and his daughter are the reason a lot of us are here ( #RIPHeather @carmencita )...Makes you wonder what Dominick really knew. “Chef Killer”, sure...
Nice dish plancktonne!! Your first paragraph reminded me of the stories when the Hollywood Hills had parties where many models would go and Saudis would be there picking out which ones they wanted. The girls drinks were drugged and when unconscious they were thrown in a helicopter together and taken to where their private jet was located, never to be seen again. Someone posted about this in detail on here. Flying private gets a pass no checks, personnel paid off. The rest of your post was fascinating and I have never heard of the coroner losing stomach contents and Ron’s fingernails. Wasn’t Ron’s occupation a “model”? In LA model is basically code for escort as LA is no fashion capital lol. Kato Kalin seemed to be scripted. What’s with the KK initials or number 77? Marcia Clark did a recent come back shes got some crime show on tv came back out of nowhere. I’m surprised to hear what u mentioned about her personally though but then again I never followed the OJ case too hard.
There was another group where we had a pilot flying private planes out of Dubai. He told tales of loading large duffel bags or hold-alls that may have contained cash, drugs or bodies (dead or alive and drugged). It was not advisable to ask questions if you wanted repeat business, and as the folks in the US Virgin Islands said about Epstein, "He tipped well."
Ron was supposedly an underwear model, a fact which was barely mentioned anywhere. These days once someone becomes a victim their past becomes almost saintly. I can understand why, in the case of rape, where defense attorneys once mercilessly bludgeoned the victim with her past behavior, but it now applies to everyone. What is your reference to KK or 77? The Marcia Clark story is from one of the neighbors, not the OJ trial.
Another side tale that we came across started as a paragraph in one of the many OJ trial books — don't remember title or author — where the writer asserted that policeman Mark Fuhrman and fellow cops met at night at the site of an actual Nazi town in Los Angeles, supposedly located in a canyon (Runyon?) off of Will Rogers State Park and right below Pacific Palisades where many anti-Nazi German expats, some famous, had settled. There was an obscure article in the LA TImes under places to hike that claimed it was well-developed at the time and even had its own hydroelectric plant. Went exploring for it, but the park rangers knew nothing of it and thought we were nuts. Started too late in the day and gave up before dark. Who knows if anything remains of it. The FBI reputedly had the place under surveillance and the morning after the US declared war on Germany arrested all the residents.
I searched on Runyon Canyon and Nazis and since the OJ Trial there's a ton of stuff, including pics. Parts of buildings do still exist. It's now become famous as a hiking destination. Also listed under "Murphy's Ranch" for anyone interested.
Nazis seem to be getting a lot of traction at the moment “Plot Against America” “The Hunters” Are they in vogue? Or subliminal hooks for the sheeple because everyone’s getting wise to Operation Paperclip?
For those interested in OJ, a 30 year old friend was watching O.J.: Made in America, and recommended it highly. So OJ is not entirely forgotten by the younger generations. I've not yet watched it. It's available on ESPN on Demand.
"It is a 2016 American documentary, produced and directed by Ezra Edelman for ESPN Films and their 30 for 30 series. It was released as a five-part miniseries and in theatrical format."
"It is the defining cultural tale of modern America - a saga of race, celebrity, media, violence, and the criminal justice system. And two decades after its unforgettable climax, it continues to fascinate, polarize, and even, yes, develop new chapters."
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carmencita ago
I see that Nygard contact with Robt. DeNiro. He needs to go down too. Bad bad guy. What does Jodi have to say about him.
To hang around with this slimeball Well. You are the company that you keep. And let’s not leave out R Burkle. Wow.
plancktonne ago
Ron Burkle was once besties with both Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. When Clinton flew on Burkle's private plane, a 757, it was jokingly known as "Air Fuck One."
Burkle tagged along on one of the four Clinton / Epstein around-the-world-tours on Epstein's plane the "Lolita Express." Burkle left the expedition along the way and flew home commercial, because he found Epstein "too weird." Burkle and Clinton later had a "falling out" over "something."
Ronald Burkle's producer son, 27, is found dead in his Beverly Hills home: 7 Jan 2020 UK Daily Mail
Cause of death not given. Hope no red ties, scarfs, doorknobs with antlers or Arkancides were involved.
millennial_vulcan ago
I too was fascinated by this! (Carm and I have been taking about R Burk!e for years) Totally no cause of death given for the son, you’re correct...hmmm.
Same with the 13 year old daughter of Ben Goldsmith and his ROTHSchi!d wife. Ok, in that instance there was some lame ‘she fell off a truck’ blah whatever, but the whole thing STANK.
Suicide? Sacrifice? Warning/Blackmail/Threat?
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plancktonne ago
The DM article was the first I'd heard of Burkle's son's death. Considering Bill Clinton and Burkle who were once very close allegedly had a "falling out" the nature of which is a mystery (AFAIK) it brings to mind Arkancide as a possibility. Following the "death" of Epstein it may well have been a warning for Burkle to keep his mouth shut. Though at his age the son may have joined the famed 27 club of rock stars and others who suffered unfortunate accidents, ODs and suicides.
millennial_vulcan ago
You are right on the money. I am sure the kid was Arkancideddd as a warning to Burk!e. There was so much stuff about Burk!e and Air Fk One on the excellent GAWKER, back in the day as @carmencita knows. Look at the shady ass trail of creeps on Burk!e’s radar...
From 2008: https://gawker.com/5021081/the-company-ron-burkle-keeps
Kim Karda$$, P Hi!ton, Kim K’s best friend Brittny Gastineau were all ‘high class’ (LOL) hookers who would fly around on Burkle’s jet back in the day...P Hi!ton’s current globetrotting “DJ” career (LMAO) is just cover for human and drug trafficking. Her family more than likely involved. Share, share.
http://blackbag.gawker.com/just-a-400-kilo-drug-bust-at-paris-hiltons-family-ranc-1630424516
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plancktonne ago
Thx for the Gawker links. Off on a tangent from Kim Karda$$, I've long thought that OJ's ex wife, the one he allegedly murdered, and her friends were operating as hi-class yacht girls and OJ's strange stalking behavior was not simply jealousy but partly out of concern that his kids might get pimped out. There was talk at the time that his defense team wanted to bring this out, but OJ forbid it, not wanting the kids to learn of their mother's behavior.
There was some ordinary restaurant in Marina del Rey where there was a weekly meet-up for participants involved in S&M. If you told the hostess you were there for the Munchkins or the Munchers you would be escorted to a private room. Just for meeting people, not for sex on the premises. OJ himself was involved in the drugs and sex milieu, reportedly partying with Dodi Al Fayed (Princess Diana's boyfriend) who was blowing $1,000 per week on coke for himself and friends, back when $1,000 was big money.
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carmencita ago
Wow. That’s a new take. I heard he took the rap for his son. There are a million stories in Pedo City but millions of answers. So they made him guilty to shut him up. Who knows what elites were involved with his wife. Who knows why Diana’s accident happened. Could be they wanted to bump him off.
plancktonne ago
I agree with the theory that he took the rap for his son, His son (Jason?) was a chef. Chefs are notoriously volatile. His son allegedly had a crush on Nicole and had a bag of chefs' knives in his car. The police said they checked him out and he had an alibi for the time of the murder, but in fact they only verified he was home and watching TV some hours earlier. I think someone called OJ and said Nicole and her friend had been murdered or there was "trouble" at Bundy, and OJ rushed over there which accounts for his DNA being there.
millennial_vulcan ago
Plancktonne and @carmencita and @Truthseeker3000
OJ soap opera: have always thought Occams Razor was true in this case ie simple explanation - the two dummies were getting high on their own supply case in point while squatting on someone else’s coke turf. Apparently the houseguest dude Cato was the one procuring the drugs as Juice couldn’t be seen to handle anything himself. Also, not the first time Juice had been busted. https://gangsterreport.com/o-j-simpson-drugs-the-juice-was-investigated-for-dope-dealing-as-an-nfl-player/
I think Jason showed up because cracked out Juice called him to the scene while he was freaking out. The killing method was way too sophisticated for it to be an amateur and had all the hallmarks of a classic hit. This has been well documented. OJ was protecting his kids by keeping his mouth shut. There are too many coincidences with related mob killings within months of Nicole/Ron murders for it all not to be connected. Other Simpson/Brown friends + associates kept their mouths shut because everyone was involved in their own shady shit. Karda$$ian Snr was part of that whole LA Armenian mafia and allegedly (LOL) involved in illegal sports betting, point shaving, porn, you name it. Its why Juice didn’t testify. He knew too much. Kris J would go down with Rob Snr so pointed finger at OJ. The current Karda$$s have so many skeletons and paid $$ for cover ups. Threatened to kill Robert Snrs last wife Ellen.
This all is what I’ve heard from a few very reliable sources over the years. Couldn’t work it into PGate relevancy before now, but well, here we are :)
Re Dodi A Fyd, I heard many years ago that the crash was in fact targeted at him. He was a well known drugs distribution guy and every knew how shady the dad (Mohammed A F) was with arms connections and Harrods laundering etc, cash for politicians and so on. Can’t have Royals and Kings associating with that particular brand of trash, LOL. :) (but somehow pedo princes in the family is ok, SMDH)
plancktonne ago
Thx. Did not know of Kardashian Snr's involvement with Armenia mafia or theory that Dodi was intended victim in the pont de l'Alma tunnel crash. Perhaps that was what my Parisian acquaintance had tracked down, resulting in the warning.
Dodi's uncle was billionaire arms dealer, Adnan Khashoggi, whose 2nd wife, Lamia, was a big-time Scientologist out of their Flagship Operation in Clearwater, FL.
A long time ago, I read somewhere that one of the first phone calls Ted Kennedy made after he pulled himself out of Chappaquiddick and dried off was to Paula Wagner, Scientologist Tom Cruise's co-producer (Cruise / Wagner Productions).
millennial_vulcan ago
Maybe your friend knew of this story? https://radaronline.com/videos/new-documentary-reveals-nicole-brown-fought-with-lady-dis-lover-night-before-murder/
The connections are jaw dropping. Please post whatever you know. Would be great to get more direct links between the 90’s OJ players and anyone current. I wonder what Dershowitz told Epstein and pals (Prince Andy) about the case. I’m sure Andy was lapping up Dodi stories. Wonder if Andy and Dodi knew each other back then.
I know very little of $cientology world but no doubt they’re involved somehow.
plancktonne ago
I am certain Andy knew all about Dodi and his billionaire pops, as Andy is a world class grifter. Search on any combo of the following: Prince Andrew; Nursultan Nazarbayev, president of Kazakhstan; Frank Giustra, owner of Lionsgate films and the Vancouver Island estate currently occupied by Prince Harry and icy Principessa Markle; Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Uranium One. They are all in it together, whatever it is.
Prince Andrew lives a billionaire’s lifestyle on £270,000 a year: UK Sun
Truthseeker3000 ago
Frank Guistra actually came out saying the Vancouver island mansion the royals were staying at wasn’t his!! But then again, Frank Guistra is a complete and utter liar so it likely belongs to Lionsgate Films, makes sense.
plancktonne ago
Exactly. He speaks in Clinton-speak. One famous line a few years back was Hillary's, "I'm not gay." Which is accurate, because gay and lesbian are two separate categories as evidenced by LGBT, and she did not say, "I'm not a lesbian."
Guistra was another of Bill Clinton's pals on their travels to Kazakhstan, and also headed up the Canadian branch of the Clinton's many foundations, The Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (Canada), because Canada has different reporting requirements and at one point Bill & Hill claimed they were forbidden by Canadian law from revealing details of that scam. Don't know if Guistra ever flew along with Epstein or Burkle.
millennial_vulcan ago
Guistra must know Br0nfm@n?
plancktonne ago
The Radar piece on Nicole & Dodi's argument is certainly news to me. Nicole is lucky that Dodi wasn't Saudi and traveled with his personal executioner with a golden scimitar or she might have... oh that's what did happen.
It shows that the whole OJ affair has fallen far out of the public's interest. At the time of the murders and the two trials I was involved in a Usenet group (Ask grandpa what those were. It took two weeks for messages to "bicycle" around the world from one university to another and it was censored by self-important SysOps who would declare messages they didn't like as Spam and put the messager on a Spam List.)
The group was largely anti-OJ but we had people posting from the library of Congress, where we found the LA Times had removed an article from their on-line edition, but it existed in a print edition. Also a team at the court house in the San Fernando valley investigating claims by a Mafia moll from Chicago that she was the intended victim. (She had some dispute with her mob hubby and her house had burned down, so it was a credible lead). As I recall, one person had a legit travel agency placing public ads for underaged sex tours to Southeast Asia, which they shut down after someone pointed out the illegality. I think it was the first time citizens could participate in a murder trial with full TV coverage and actual court transcripts available that evening.
The only unusual things I recall, other than the biz about the munch bunch:
The coroner accidentally losing the contents of Nicole's stomach, but not Ron's. Presumably because there were unsavory left-overs from sex in the mix. (In those days everyone assumed semen, but with we know these days it might have been a John Deere tractor.)
The coroner mentioning he was not able to take clippings from Ron's fingernails, because they were filed down, which is something a waiter might do, but which is also associated with a sex act.
Marcia Clark was, if I recall, at one time married to a Scientologist, who was a gambler and had played backgammon with OJ. Also, her neighbors hated her, because she'd throw loud parties with cars blocking their driveways. When they complained to her, SHE would call the police and have all of THEIR cars towed. It was widely reported she'd interview witnesses (especially Kato) in her office and toss them a pretzel whenever they gave her a "right" answer.
On the royal front, at one point during the trial, a British princess (I think it was Margaret) was in town, and LA society, such as it is, threw a big dinner in her honor, with everybody expecting to provide her with the latest salacious details. They were horribly disappointed to find she had no interest whatsoever.
Author Dominick Dunne who covered the OJ affair, had a daughter murdered by stabbing by a boyfriend chef. The chef was convicted and got off with a slap-on-the-wrist, but it probably colored Dunne's reporting.
millennial_vulcan ago
LOL, asked Grandpa Google about UseNet :) Sounds slow!
WOW. This is bomb. I spent years researching Michael Nigg, Brett Cantor, mob connections, turfs wars etc. Even went down some obscure hole involving Ron Goldman’s stepfather back in Chicago and his own falling out with gangsters. So many threads. Folks can draw their own conclusions. Not that anyone’s still interested. “Who?” - Millennials.
LOL if someone wants to start a “Shady Princess Margaret” thread I’d sure enjoy it! D Dunne and his daughter are the reason a lot of us are here ( #RIPHeather @carmencita )...Makes you wonder what Dominick really knew. “Chef Killer”, sure...
Truthseeker3000 ago
Nice dish plancktonne!! Your first paragraph reminded me of the stories when the Hollywood Hills had parties where many models would go and Saudis would be there picking out which ones they wanted. The girls drinks were drugged and when unconscious they were thrown in a helicopter together and taken to where their private jet was located, never to be seen again. Someone posted about this in detail on here. Flying private gets a pass no checks, personnel paid off. The rest of your post was fascinating and I have never heard of the coroner losing stomach contents and Ron’s fingernails. Wasn’t Ron’s occupation a “model”? In LA model is basically code for escort as LA is no fashion capital lol. Kato Kalin seemed to be scripted. What’s with the KK initials or number 77? Marcia Clark did a recent come back shes got some crime show on tv came back out of nowhere. I’m surprised to hear what u mentioned about her personally though but then again I never followed the OJ case too hard.
plancktonne ago
There was another group where we had a pilot flying private planes out of Dubai. He told tales of loading large duffel bags or hold-alls that may have contained cash, drugs or bodies (dead or alive and drugged). It was not advisable to ask questions if you wanted repeat business, and as the folks in the US Virgin Islands said about Epstein, "He tipped well."
Ron was supposedly an underwear model, a fact which was barely mentioned anywhere. These days once someone becomes a victim their past becomes almost saintly. I can understand why, in the case of rape, where defense attorneys once mercilessly bludgeoned the victim with her past behavior, but it now applies to everyone. What is your reference to KK or 77? The Marcia Clark story is from one of the neighbors, not the OJ trial.
Another side tale that we came across started as a paragraph in one of the many OJ trial books — don't remember title or author — where the writer asserted that policeman Mark Fuhrman and fellow cops met at night at the site of an actual Nazi town in Los Angeles, supposedly located in a canyon (Runyon?) off of Will Rogers State Park and right below Pacific Palisades where many anti-Nazi German expats, some famous, had settled. There was an obscure article in the LA TImes under places to hike that claimed it was well-developed at the time and even had its own hydroelectric plant. Went exploring for it, but the park rangers knew nothing of it and thought we were nuts. Started too late in the day and gave up before dark. Who knows if anything remains of it. The FBI reputedly had the place under surveillance and the morning after the US declared war on Germany arrested all the residents.
I searched on Runyon Canyon and Nazis and since the OJ Trial there's a ton of stuff, including pics. Parts of buildings do still exist. It's now become famous as a hiking destination. Also listed under "Murphy's Ranch" for anyone interested.
@vindicator @darkknight111 @MercurysBall2 @gamepwn @carmencita @think-
millennial_vulcan ago
Wow. Bombshell. Thanks!
Nazis seem to be getting a lot of traction at the moment “Plot Against America” “The Hunters” Are they in vogue? Or subliminal hooks for the sheeple because everyone’s getting wise to Operation Paperclip?
Oh Ron G was a gigolo for sure. Exhibit A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6riN8FQHwyI
Looks like he was pretty high on his own supply:)
@Truthseeker3000
Vindicator ago
Interesting and creepy.
plancktonne ago
For those interested in OJ, a 30 year old friend was watching O.J.: Made in America, and recommended it highly. So OJ is not entirely forgotten by the younger generations. I've not yet watched it. It's available on ESPN on Demand.
"It is a 2016 American documentary, produced and directed by Ezra Edelman for ESPN Films and their 30 for 30 series. It was released as a five-part miniseries and in theatrical format."
"It is the defining cultural tale of modern America - a saga of race, celebrity, media, violence, and the criminal justice system. And two decades after its unforgettable climax, it continues to fascinate, polarize, and even, yes, develop new chapters."
@vindicator @darkknight111 @MercurysBall2 @gamepwn @carmencita @think- @Truthseeker3000