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MolochHunter ago

oh man

this makes my head hurt

are those victims that fucking stupid, or are they fake victims cughed up by the Deep State to discredit the whole shebang?

argosciv ago

Just as a follow up, that's why it's important to point these connections out in more public domains such as twitter, potentially 'up the line' and into the feeds/discussions of the accusers themselves. If we can reach them with a warning such as this, perhaps they can break free or seek further assistance before the worst might happen.

@Vindicator @kestrel9 @gamepwn @darkknight111 @EricKaliberhall

Vindicator ago

I agree. Do you know the twitter handles for any of these folks? Would be good to add to the post.

argosciv ago

Do you know the twitter handles for any of these folks?

Not a chance unfortunately. I figure it should work like a grape-vine effect though. Hell maybe they lurk here, who knows. Point being I would think they'd like ot know this tid-bit of information, all things considered.

argosciv ago

Gotta remember that we look at things from an 'outside' (broader) perspective. The victims may not know about or connect the dots regarding their legal rep in this particular angle – all they'd know is that she's high profile and has a penchant for representing cases relating sexual (mis)conduct.

SandHog ago

This is a great point. I was disturbed when I heard Allred was representing one of the victims. I did not realize she was representing all of them via proxy through her daughter anyway. Reminds me of this excerpt from Senator John DeCamp's book about the Franklin scandal:

Judge Enbody looked at me. Slowly, his voice shaking, he began to talk.

"I am just a man. I am not a god. I wish I were. I have no choice in what I have done. I am just a man, just a man, not a god. I am doing what I must do with the evidence before me," Judge Enbody concluded. He appeared even more shaken and upset than I was.

I shook my head. "I don’t understand. I just don’t understand," I kept repeating. "Everybody knows what is happening, but nobody is willing to do anything about it. Why? Why?!!" Judge Enbody looked at me and said, very slowly, "If you want to understand the entire Franklin case, I can help you. Go read ’Billy Budd.’ Read ’Billy Budd.’ If you will do that, John, and if you understand the book, then you will understand the what and why of Franklin, and why it can be no other way. I do not say you will like it. I do not say you will agree with it. But at least you will understand it. That, I promise you. Go read ’Billy Budd’."

Those were the last words I spoke with the Judge on the case. I left his chambers, burnt out, but angry. And I forgot all about Billy Budd, until the night I happened upon the movie. The story of Billy Budd is set in the British Navy near the end of the eighteenth century. Billy was a young sailor, who, although impressed into the British Navy, bore no ill will to the authorities for having dragooned him; indeed, he was the very picture of innocence and good-will, and was almost universally loved aboard his war-ship. One officer, however, developed an insane jealousy of Billy, and set out to frame him up for allegedly inciting mutiny. Since there had been several notorious mutinies in the British fleet at the time, the mere whisper of "mutiny" was enough to spread panic among the ship’s officers.

To make a long story short, because of certain incriminating appearances in the case, the captain and his senior officers, although they knew Billy was innocent of all charges, nonetheless sentenced him to hang, a necessity - as they viewed it - to "save the system," not just on their own ship, but in the British fleet as a whole.