Youtube Star dead, circumstances unknown (Accused Dan Schneider of pedophilia in 2014) (pizzagate)

submitted ago by NOMOCHOMO

Dillon the Hacker is a YouTuber. He's now apparently dead.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/dillon-the-hacker-dead/

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

He's the first person who ever accused Dan Schneider of being a pedo on Video (2014)

https://youtu.be/ltbzdKB8jZE

In what appears to be a fictional rant, Dillon repeatedly references Dan's Jewish Heritage. Claims he dated Ariana Grande before she was famous and personally heard stories of sex slavery and ritualized abuse of nickelodeon stars.

Archive this Video, YouTube could purge his account: https://youtu.be/ltbzdKB8jZE

I still haven't made up my mind on this whole spectacle. Whether Dillon is dead or alive, his "death" can be used to bring more attention to Dan Schneider's pedo proclivity

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EricKaliberhall ago

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

Possible Disinformation flair is activated.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Nothing in my post is possible disinfo.

My post covers both possibilities (hoax/real), so nobody can accuse me of later spreading a false narrative

I am reposting MSM news stories that mention online speculation about his death being a hoax

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/tragedy-mystery-over-dillon-hackers-19036892

The official narrative is no details have emerged regarding his death. Thus, it is a developing story.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed is this "possible disinfo" flair warranted?

Multiple MSM sites say it may be a hoax. The accusations of it being a "troll/hoax" are a necessary to fully encompass the story.

Flairing the post as "possible disinfo" (when I dont commit to either narrative) actually keeps people from reading it and considering if it is disinfo or not.

think- ago

Then you should have chosen another headline. Your headline says 'Youtube Star dead'. And yes, headlines need to be accurate, or they will get flaired.

NOMOCHOMO ago

all msm is reporting him dead.

If I were to post a different headline, people would claim I'm spreading disinfo by claiming it's a hoax.

Crensch ago

Youtube Star dead

The above is a factual claim.

Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link.

It very obviously isn't common knowledge if:

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

Therefore, I'm flagging this per rule 2. @EricKaliberhall @think- @Vindicator

NOMOCHOMO ago

So if a story is developing, it cannot be reported on here until it is empirical/common knowledge?

I provide a source because it isn't common knowledge...yet my own doubt of the truthfulness of the MSM story invalidates it as empirical evidence?

wtf are you even saying?

Crensch ago

So if a story is developing, it cannot be reported on here until it is empirical/common knowledge?

Sounds like you're having trouble understanding the rules.

I provide a source https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/dillon-the-hacker-dead/ because it isn't common knowledge...

You provide that source but admit yourself that nobody knows exactly what happened. Meaning your source didn't say that. Meaning you just posted a link that didn't verify your claim.

yet my own doubt of the truthfulness of the MSM story invalidates it as empirical evidence per pizzagate rules?

You made the claim.

You make the claim, you support it.

"Youtube Star dead"

Except we all know you can't support it, because by your own admission, nobody knows what happened.

wtf are you even saying?

Why is such a simple thing so difficult for you to grasp?

NOMOCHOMO ago

(((You provide that source but admit yourself that nobody knows exactly what happened. Meaning your source didn't say that. Meaning you just posted a link that didn't verify your claim.)))

My own doubt doesn't invalidate the claim the article is making.

The article I linked is titled:

"Dillon the Hacker Dead"

That article uses the statements of other Youtubers who had relationships with Dillon to verify the claims including PewdiePie & BGKumbi

They got multiple confirmations which together become the empirical basis for the article.

Crensch ago

My own doubt doesn't invalidate the claim the article is making.

You made the post. You submitted the text. The claim is yours to defend.

The article I linked is titled:

"Dillon the Hacker Dead"

So?

Just because you repeat a lie doesn't mean you're not responsible for supporting it.

That article uses the statements of other Youtubers who had relationships with Dillon to verify the claims including PewdiePie & BGKumbi

So... lots of anecdotal evidence. Do you know why anecdotes aren't accepted as evidence for most things?

They got multiple confirmations which together become the empirical basis for the article.

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

Empirical, but unconfirmed.

Edit: Speculation of death/hoax is in my original link. Why are Mods trying to remove this post?

You're really quite stupid, aren't you?

Re-post without stating as a fact that he's dead when you cannot confirm it with anyone but "people who are close to him" if you cannot confirm it.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link.

v.s.

Empirical, but unconfirmed

where is "confirmed" or "unconfirmed" in the official submission rules?

@shewhomustbeobeyed @vindicator

Crensch ago

EACH factual claim

Youtube Star dead

So any link referencing the subject but not confirming the claim is acceptable, even when the user admits that the claims is unconfirmed?

NOMOCHOMO ago

the link confirms the claim with the statements of 3 individuals who were involved with the "deceased"

my own caution has no bearing on the empirical claims

Crensch ago

the link confirms the claim with the statements of 3 individuals who were involved with the "deceased"

That's not your claim. Your claim was not "3 individuals claim youtuber is deceased" it is "Youtube star dead".

Your backpedaling has no bearing on your burden of proof.

NOMOCHOMO ago

My title is "YouTube Star Dead, circumstances unknown..."

My title is based directly on the vast majority of Mainstream Media Articles which themeselves claim "Dillon the Hacker is Dead"

Not only did I qualify my title with "circumstances unknown" I urged caution in the first line of my post.

Dillon the Hacker is a YouTuber. He's now apparently dead....But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll.

W/in the reporting, the confusion is addressed, but finalizes with the conclusion that the death is real. Hence the Editorial Staff approving the title.

You're shifting the standard of proof from "empirical" to "confirmed". Such a standard is NOT FOUND in submission guidelines.

you still have not clarified as to what "confirmation" would reverse your flair. Death Cert?

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed

Crensch ago

Let me give you an example:

"HILLARY CLINTON IS IN JAIL"

People close to Hillary made this statement; here's a link.

Nobody knows what happened.

That's what you're saying should be allowed here.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Let me give you an example:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3400486

Suprise one of Epstein's cameras was not working.

according to This story (http://archive.fo/TQ9Oi) one the cameras on Epstein's was not working.

Relevancy is a probable cover-up of a murder of an elite pedophile or white hats putting him in witness protection so he can offer testimony on other elite pedophiles.

switch Hillary Clinton w/ Epstein....These posts are allowed already...

"sources who were briefed earlier this month"

vs

4 youtubers who have documented online history w/ dillon.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed

Crensch ago

Hmm, and nobody reported it or mentioned that OP literally lied in the title.

@Vindicator I'll let you figure out where you want to draw this line. I think NOMOshade is trying to cause problems, but you've got point here.

Vindicator ago

Thanks Crensch. Only just saw this ping.

Generally speaking, when facts are in dispute or something might be disinfo, we only flair it such if the submitter does not discuss the disinfo likelihood himself. It looked to me like @Nomochomo did that here (though the submission was edited before I saw it, so that may not have been the case originally before @EricKaliberhall flair it.)

Crensch ago

My problem wasn't the veracity of the claim, it was that he made the factual claim, then literally stated that his supporting link did not support that claim.

NOMOCHOMO ago

literally stated that his supporting link did not support that claim.

Then Quote it back to me Bitch.

You are desperately twisting my words to justify your ham handed moderation.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed

My OP, and Current Post say the same thing

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

I didn't say he didn't die. I complied with the standard Vin states:

when facts are in dispute or something might be disinfo, we only flair it such if the submitter does not discuss the disinfo likelihood himself.

Crensch ago

Oh, lookie here:

Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content

Youtube Star dead

.

Dillon the Hacker is a YouTuber. He's now apparently dead.

Do you know the difference between dead and apparently dead?

NOMOCHOMO ago

is apparently dead not dead?

you're reaching so far.

At this point, you just look like a hack with a personal vendetta.

@shewhomustbeobeyed

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

You're killing me. I shouldn't be ROFL, but i am. I'll be ashamed later.

NOMOCHOMO ago

I swear it's like Crensch is getting dumber at a Flowers for Algernon pace.

or more dishonest at a Faustian pace

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

They hate you, because I don't. They couldn't make me believe you were ES, no matter what they said. Now they hate both of us. I still don't see them as 'the enemy', more like 'religiously confused' and not really 'red pilled'. Maybe 'pink-hued pilled', idk, but it is tiring.

Vindicator ago

I don't hate either of you. I hate bad behavior that feeds the shills who want to shut this board down. You used to know that. Was that all just a ruse? Pretty sad.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Because this is your opinion of me, is why I don't know anything about you.

Sad? You mean like watching how a shill YOU modded has set fire and nearly destroyed the PG community, all while being protected by a bunch of cucked up neets? Is that the kind of sad you mean? You been making me sad for a hell of a lot longer.

Because a mod of PG has made it clear that PMs of the users of PG will be revealed to other mods and the rest of Voat, and i have come to understand now how wrong that is, I find that I have been unable to come to you with my concerns. What you see is me learning how to cope with it without being able to trust any mod again.

SAD??????

fuck you.

Vindicator ago

a shill YOU modded has set fire and nearly destroyed the PG community

What are you talking about? I'd like to see evidence of any of this.