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letsdothis3 ago

Interesting post @Vindicator. I seem to remember @VieBleu was run off of this forum.. see: @VieBleu is a shitstirring troll and is not to be taken seriously.

Vindicator ago

Hmm. I wouldn't say she was run off. More like she blew herself up.

VieBleu waged a campaign to get the community to rally behind getting me made O, and minimum CCP raised to 100 (which would have kept our posts off of v/all). EsotericShade helped with that campaign. When Kev foiled it she claimed he was threatening her, then disappeared and never came back.

As I look back, I think VieBleu may have been an ES sock puppet. Both @Kevdude and @Crensch had problems with her/him from the very beginning. She started out complaining about hate speech early on, trying to get mods to delete comments. Moved to mod bashing when we didn't bend to her will, especially when we refused to advertise the protests at Comet. Every time Voat had problems with bugs during DDoS attacks, she would crank up the "Voat compromised" narrative.

Here is ES replying to VieBleu in her big thread pushing the 100 CCP requirement: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2030995/10019687. It's what he made @smurfy69 for.

ESOTERICshade ago

VieBleu waged a campaign to get the community to rally behind getting me made O, and minimum CCP raised to 100 (which would have kept our posts off of v/all). EsotericShade helped with that campaign.

I'm the one that took kevdudes advice, created a sub for testing (v/testingsunday) and then helped Kev explain to everybody that it would be bad for the sub. I KNOW you know that too. You're lying.


As I look back, I think VieBleu may have been an ES sock puppet.

You know that is bullshit too. Viebleu hated @kevdude with a passion but I always got along fine with Kev.

Vindicator ago

I'm the one that took kevdudes advice, created a sub for testing (v/testingsunday) and then helped Kev explain to everybody that it would be bad for the sub. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT TOO. We were all struggling to understand what the CPP limit would do. Once I figured it out I helped Kev convince the sub not to do it. You're lying.

Well ES, without links to the conversations you're referring to, I find that pretty hard to believe. At the time, @Kevdude told me not to put up the sticky that allowed for that debate, because VieBleu was trying to gaslight the community into censoring itself by changing the settings. I told him the only way to vent VB's shitstirring was to have the full debate, and I was right.

You have an admitted history of playing good guy/bad guy and taking opposite sides of an issue to manipulate consensus, particularly about Q. You helped VieBleu with his campaign to raise the CCP limit, and then switched sides. It's similar behavior.

ESOTERICshade ago

Well ES, without links to the conversations you're referring to, I find that pretty hard to believe. At the time, @Kevdude told me not to put up the sticky that allowed for that debate, because VieBleu was trying to gaslight the community into censoring itself by changing the settings. I told him the only way to vent VB's shitstirring was to have the full debate, and I was right.

You were right. It was a very productive, active, and sometimes confusing discussion, but it produced fruit. I still don't think a lot of people understood it fully but after some of them read v/testingsunday it helped the light bulbs come on. You did the right thing by having a discussion on it because otherwise it would have just been more confusing and frustrating.


You have an admitted history of playing good guy/bad guy and taking opposite sides of an issue to manipulate consensus, particularly about Q.

I have said this several times and I will say it again. I don't hate the Q people and I don't hate you either. Srayzie is a DAMN good friend of mine and she is Mrs. Q around here. Me and her NEVER fight, we don't argue, because we don't discuss Qanon. We just have a genuine friendship. I don't hate you either bro. I didn't want v/pizzagate to get polluted, side tracked, or diluted. This ain't complicated and neither were my motives.


You helped VieBleu with his campaign to raise the CCP limit, and then switched sides. It's similar behavior.

I learned because I did the hands on research . It turned out that @kevdude was 100% correct about the 100 CPP limit but we had to go through the actual exercise in order to understand it. You know all this. You're just painting the worst picture you can think to create.


I did research here >>> v/testingsunday because @kevdude told us that if we really wanted to understand it we should start a sub and experiment with it. So, @cantsleepawink created v/testingsunday and asked me to help. If you read that short thread we tested in its OBVIOUS that we were learning.


This craziness doesn't have to go on forever. I'm over it. I think all this turned out as well as it possibly could have under the circumstances. v/pizzagate is still just v/pizzagate and the Q crowd has their own home and they seem to like it. I don't hate you and I don't wish you any ill will.

Vindicator ago

I didn't want v/pizzagate to get polluted, side tracked, or diluted. This ain't complicated and neither were my motives.

You see, ES, this is the fundamental problem, right here. It's not up to YOU what people on v/pizzagate want to discuss. So long as they satisfy the submission rules, they can post about whatever they want. You think you have a right to determine what is and isn't acceptable. You created sock puppet accounts to play games and manipulate voting to ram your totalitarian vision down everyone's throat. You have no respect for freedom of speech or the right of users to make decisions for themselves about whether something is worth investigating, or not. And you pride yourself in it. It's disgusting.

And that is why "this craziness" will go on until you delete your account. You don't belong on Voat because you don't respect the most basic values Voat holds dear.

ESOTERICshade ago

You see, ES, this is the fundamental problem, right here.

The fundamental problem is that the deep state won't end it's own self. Me and you have to do that. Us. Its up to us, the citizens of this country have to free their own selves. Ain't nobody going to GITMO bro. Qanon will not put anybody in GITMO and by now, you should have already figured it out. I know it hurts, but embrace reality, bro.

Provide your "evidence" that Qanon is what you think he is. I will wait....................

You will wait..............

We have to do this. Me and you and the rest of America. Snap out of the Hopium smoking haze bro. Make yourself useful, because at this point in history, you are a boat anchor of progress.

Vindicator ago

Says the guy who lies constantly, censors others, pretends friensdship to people with one account and then attacks with another. We need to get the weasels like you OUT of America.

ESOTERICshade ago

Says the guy who lies constantly, censors others, pretends friensdship to people with one account and then attacks with another. We need to get the weasels like you OUT of America.

That is Coleman Rogers. (Qanon)

That mother fucker made a million dollars selling hats and T-shirts.

Now, a crowd is assembled. We should do something with it. Like REALLY do something with it. We should funnel all this energy into something that makes a REAL difference. It will be dangerous, and you can bet on that. Helicopters will buzz your house. Been there, done that. You ready for the big time or are you just a poser? Right now you are just a poser.

Vindicator ago

It will be dangerous, and you can bet on that. Helicopters will buzz your house. Been there, done that.

Concern troll. Check!