I don't think that Trump is "controlled" or that his election was intended by the Deep State. I also don't see him as a miraculous savior of Western civilization. He's had some victories (illegal immigration is way down, stock market is way up), and he's had a lot of messy, frustrating, partly self-inflicted scandals, and the fight is far from over.
My suggestion is that you pace yourselves, guys. It's going to be a long four years.
Are you even aware that all his kids are with Jews. Are you aware of what Chabad teaches? Are you aware that Marla Maples is a Kabbalist? The daughter they had is ALSO with an elite jew. Jewish agents in LA bankroll TrumpCo AND Kushner. He is 110% bought and paid for at best, another pedophile at worst (50-50 he is)
Your stuff reminds me of a YouTube video where it turns out that the secret of the universe ... wait for it ... is that all the fundamental particles are really tiny Jews. Why? Because the Jews want it that way!
That's right, sheeple! Wake up and see how deep the conspiracy goes! WE ARE ALL MADE OF JEWS!!!
God, I just laughed and laughed at that one. Have a nice day.
Just to be clear: I don't usually mock other posters, even people with hundreds of downvoats and bad reputations.
My problem (as I've said a few times before) is that the "Jews did it" argument is incredibly elastic, completely impossible to test empirically, and commonly associated with mental illness. It's paranoid and stupid. Plus, if you really believe that the Jews run the world, to the extent that they could make Trump president against the wishes of everyone else, what that usually implies is that either you think the Holocaust didn't really happen, or that it did somehow happen but it was a good thing.
Okay, if so, that's your belief. But it's completely self-defeating to have a group of people come together to try and rescue kids who are being raped, only to have the whole enterprise turn into a discussion of why another much larger group of kids deserved to be gassed and shot and starved. Right? Where else can this exchange go? What are you really asking me, when you go on about Marla Maples being a Kabbalist?
It's tedious to keep explaining this every few days, so this time I thought I'd try a joke.
How is it elastic or hard to test?? HALF THE NAMES EVER MENTIONED HERE ARE PROUD JEWS.
I was PRO ISRAEL prePG and I have Jewish blood. It is beyond illogical to say the evidence against them here is INVALIDATED by the fact that there's a huge centuries-long scholarly tradition about Jewish conspiracies. It is illogical to postulate MANY COLLUDING GROUPS than one calling the shots.
I have to question a "researcher" who won't even look at both sides of WW2. Suggestion: read JEWISH SOURCES that admit these things.
I know what you're feeling cuz I felt it too: Jews are scapegoats, it's overly simplistic, blah blah -- they ADMIT TO CRYING HOLOCAUST WHEN CONVENIENT. Just check youtube.
I am sure you too even as a child thought once, "why would they transport and then dupe the Jews rather than simply bomb their ghettoes, and how can you cremate MILLIONS OF BODIES in a couple years" it is preposterous on it's face.
GERMANS deserve an apology for it being said that they used SOAP AND LAMPSHADES MADE FROM DEAD BODIES. That is admitted now to being an outrageous lie.
It is illogical to postulate MANY COLLUDING GROUPS than one calling the shots.
No, actually, it is fundamental to the process of building the case against the pedos. The Catholic Church engaged in a massive, horrific, decades-long cover-up of its priestly pedophilia. As many as 6 percent of all priests were shown to be pedos, worldwide. Are you saying they are all secretly Jews? Or will you use the standard evasion that they were "crypto-Jews"?
Another gaping hole in the "Jews did it" logic is the shamefully dysfunctional Child Protective Services in the 50 states. As I've begun documenting here, the rate of child sexual abuse among foster children is much higher than the overall average. CPS is massively corrupt; they pull kids out of poor families for profit, then sell them to pedos for more profit, as Nancy Schaefer documented (and remember, she was killed for it).
The thing is, the overwhelming majority of the 450,000 kids in foster care in America are not being fostered by Jews. No one has presented any evidence that Jews dominate in that realm. It's not the sort of thing that the Rothschilds would be interested in; the money involved is a lot to some fucked-up middle class schlub who hates his kids, but it wouldn't interest the power elite.
And then there's MS-13. Their whole thing, both in El Salvador and here, is slavery and human trafficking. Of course, they could just be pretending to be Hispanic Catholics. Maybe they're all Jews too?
I've never denied that the number of high-profile Jews in this story is above the U.S. national average. I don't doubt that Mossad engages in the same sort of ugly brownstone blackmail that the CIA does. The problem is that these other groups don't take orders from Mossad. Trump doesn't take orders from Mossad; he doesn't take orders from anyone.
You're making a bunch of assumptions here, so let me clear up some points.
I have to question a "researcher" who won't even look at both sides of WW2.
You have absolutely no idea what I've looked at. In fact, I've spent hundreds of hours investigating mass killings of Germans, in three separate episodes.
After WW I, the Allied powers prolonged their blockade of Germany to pressure them into signing a punitive treaty. About 800,000 Germans died of starvation due to the blockade, roughly half of them during the 8 months after fighting had ceased. That was a hideous war crime.
At the conclusion of WW II, roughly 5 million German soldiers were rounded up and kept in open-air enclosures, many of them for more than a year. They literally dug holes in the ground for shelter. The official record claims, absurdly, that no more than 5,000 died of exposure and hunger. The real number was at least 50,000, and likely even higher. Documents and witnesses have come to light that at some camps food was withheld deliberately. Again, this was a war crime by the Allies against the Germans.
The postwar adjustment of borders broke off a large chunk of Poland and gave it to the USSR, then broke off Eastern Germany and gave it to Poland. About 14 million Germans were expelled from Eastern Europe at bayonet point. Of these, at least 500,000 and perhaps as many as 2 million died. This was primarily the doing of the Soviets, but Western leaders agreed to the expulsions and the border changes. Yet again, our ally committed a massive war crime, and we made no protest.
I believe very strongly that these crimes against the German people need to be exposed, and taught in schools. But they are irrelevant to Pizzagate.
I have spent even more time on the Holocaust, and other assorted German atrocities. Want me to explain about the 1943 Hunger Plan, and how a couple of million Czechs and Poles narrowly escaped being killed because of food shortages in Europe? We'll have to do that offline, though, because again it is irrelevant to Pizzagate.
I don't think you're a shill, and I regret talking down to you. I think you're sincere. You're just wrong. It's not a crime to be bad at research and critical thinking. I'll address some more of your errors in my next post.
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SoberSecondThought ago
Sorry, I don't see anything here that suggests Trump will announce arrests.
I think there is progress being made, and wonder of wonders, the media is even covering it. Trump and Sessions have declared war on MS-13 and have recently made arrests. Also, Imran Awan was arrested, and the claim that the DNC emails were hacked has now been debunked by NSA experts. This is all good news, much better news than I would have predicted a couple of months ago.
I don't think that Trump is "controlled" or that his election was intended by the Deep State. I also don't see him as a miraculous savior of Western civilization. He's had some victories (illegal immigration is way down, stock market is way up), and he's had a lot of messy, frustrating, partly self-inflicted scandals, and the fight is far from over.
My suggestion is that you pace yourselves, guys. It's going to be a long four years.
DanKeyhote ago
Are you even aware that all his kids are with Jews. Are you aware of what Chabad teaches? Are you aware that Marla Maples is a Kabbalist? The daughter they had is ALSO with an elite jew. Jewish agents in LA bankroll TrumpCo AND Kushner. He is 110% bought and paid for at best, another pedophile at worst (50-50 he is)
SoberSecondThought ago
Your stuff reminds me of a YouTube video where it turns out that the secret of the universe ... wait for it ... is that all the fundamental particles are really tiny Jews. Why? Because the Jews want it that way!
That's right, sheeple! Wake up and see how deep the conspiracy goes! WE ARE ALL MADE OF JEWS!!!
God, I just laughed and laughed at that one. Have a nice day.
SterlingJB ago
You ever read PKD's Memories Wholesale? What total recall was based on. Be funny if that was really the gig
LongDongKeyhote ago
Well im glad you found it funny at least o_o i dont huff glue tho
SoberSecondThought ago
Just to be clear: I don't usually mock other posters, even people with hundreds of downvoats and bad reputations.
My problem (as I've said a few times before) is that the "Jews did it" argument is incredibly elastic, completely impossible to test empirically, and commonly associated with mental illness. It's paranoid and stupid. Plus, if you really believe that the Jews run the world, to the extent that they could make Trump president against the wishes of everyone else, what that usually implies is that either you think the Holocaust didn't really happen, or that it did somehow happen but it was a good thing.
Okay, if so, that's your belief. But it's completely self-defeating to have a group of people come together to try and rescue kids who are being raped, only to have the whole enterprise turn into a discussion of why another much larger group of kids deserved to be gassed and shot and starved. Right? Where else can this exchange go? What are you really asking me, when you go on about Marla Maples being a Kabbalist?
It's tedious to keep explaining this every few days, so this time I thought I'd try a joke.
DarkMath ago
Donkeyhote is a shill:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2077429
DonKeyhote ago
How is it elastic or hard to test?? HALF THE NAMES EVER MENTIONED HERE ARE PROUD JEWS.
I was PRO ISRAEL prePG and I have Jewish blood. It is beyond illogical to say the evidence against them here is INVALIDATED by the fact that there's a huge centuries-long scholarly tradition about Jewish conspiracies. It is illogical to postulate MANY COLLUDING GROUPS than one calling the shots.
I have to question a "researcher" who won't even look at both sides of WW2. Suggestion: read JEWISH SOURCES that admit these things.
I know what you're feeling cuz I felt it too: Jews are scapegoats, it's overly simplistic, blah blah -- they ADMIT TO CRYING HOLOCAUST WHEN CONVENIENT. Just check youtube.
I am sure you too even as a child thought once, "why would they transport and then dupe the Jews rather than simply bomb their ghettoes, and how can you cremate MILLIONS OF BODIES in a couple years" it is preposterous on it's face.
GERMANS deserve an apology for it being said that they used SOAP AND LAMPSHADES MADE FROM DEAD BODIES. That is admitted now to being an outrageous lie.
SoberSecondThought ago
Let's look at this point you made:
No, actually, it is fundamental to the process of building the case against the pedos. The Catholic Church engaged in a massive, horrific, decades-long cover-up of its priestly pedophilia. As many as 6 percent of all priests were shown to be pedos, worldwide. Are you saying they are all secretly Jews? Or will you use the standard evasion that they were "crypto-Jews"?
Another gaping hole in the "Jews did it" logic is the shamefully dysfunctional Child Protective Services in the 50 states. As I've begun documenting here, the rate of child sexual abuse among foster children is much higher than the overall average. CPS is massively corrupt; they pull kids out of poor families for profit, then sell them to pedos for more profit, as Nancy Schaefer documented (and remember, she was killed for it).
The thing is, the overwhelming majority of the 450,000 kids in foster care in America are not being fostered by Jews. No one has presented any evidence that Jews dominate in that realm. It's not the sort of thing that the Rothschilds would be interested in; the money involved is a lot to some fucked-up middle class schlub who hates his kids, but it wouldn't interest the power elite.
And then there's MS-13. Their whole thing, both in El Salvador and here, is slavery and human trafficking. Of course, they could just be pretending to be Hispanic Catholics. Maybe they're all Jews too?
I've never denied that the number of high-profile Jews in this story is above the U.S. national average. I don't doubt that Mossad engages in the same sort of ugly brownstone blackmail that the CIA does. The problem is that these other groups don't take orders from Mossad. Trump doesn't take orders from Mossad; he doesn't take orders from anyone.
SoberSecondThought ago
You're making a bunch of assumptions here, so let me clear up some points.
You have absolutely no idea what I've looked at. In fact, I've spent hundreds of hours investigating mass killings of Germans, in three separate episodes.
After WW I, the Allied powers prolonged their blockade of Germany to pressure them into signing a punitive treaty. About 800,000 Germans died of starvation due to the blockade, roughly half of them during the 8 months after fighting had ceased. That was a hideous war crime.
At the conclusion of WW II, roughly 5 million German soldiers were rounded up and kept in open-air enclosures, many of them for more than a year. They literally dug holes in the ground for shelter. The official record claims, absurdly, that no more than 5,000 died of exposure and hunger. The real number was at least 50,000, and likely even higher. Documents and witnesses have come to light that at some camps food was withheld deliberately. Again, this was a war crime by the Allies against the Germans.
The postwar adjustment of borders broke off a large chunk of Poland and gave it to the USSR, then broke off Eastern Germany and gave it to Poland. About 14 million Germans were expelled from Eastern Europe at bayonet point. Of these, at least 500,000 and perhaps as many as 2 million died. This was primarily the doing of the Soviets, but Western leaders agreed to the expulsions and the border changes. Yet again, our ally committed a massive war crime, and we made no protest.
I believe very strongly that these crimes against the German people need to be exposed, and taught in schools. But they are irrelevant to Pizzagate.
I have spent even more time on the Holocaust, and other assorted German atrocities. Want me to explain about the 1943 Hunger Plan, and how a couple of million Czechs and Poles narrowly escaped being killed because of food shortages in Europe? We'll have to do that offline, though, because again it is irrelevant to Pizzagate.
I don't think you're a shill, and I regret talking down to you. I think you're sincere. You're just wrong. It's not a crime to be bad at research and critical thinking. I'll address some more of your errors in my next post.