The fact that none of the news reports mentioned this from the article is concerning:
The US couple stated during the investigations that they had forced the children to have sex with each other in order to record them in a pornographic film production.
It makes me wonder why they would not discuss the charges and how they were shown to be without merit.
All you have to do is provide more details than the media has decided should be provided and they go berserk. Has anyone found a western site acknowledging the child porn production? And it could be wrong but why not mention it? It sounds like an admission when they claim one charge is wrong without mentioning the other charge.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Similarly, a 2003 Vanity Fair profile of Epstein named Trump as one of the “businessmen who dine with him at his home,” and several other articles have pegged Trump and Epstein as friends.
No. First Ive heard that. Its all very strange now. I hope its 4D chess he is playing. But he seems to be reading (((scripts))) now. Bannon seems to be out and (((jared))) has taken control of the narrative. Its all upside down. Im really not sure about any of it. But Trump suddenly seems like a puppet for Israel. A different person all around. Like something happened. If (((they))) have a pizzagate type vid on Trump possibly procured by (((Epstein))) that could explain the sudden 180 on Syria. But Assad did not do the gassing, no motive. He was winning by conventional means. Only 80 people were susposedly gassed anyway. No reason to start the WW3 narrative by antagonizing Russia on behalf of Israel. Isis does the gassing and we gave then the gas. Why do the neocons INSIST on saying ISIL? Because its well known that Mossad is internaly refered to IN ISRAEL as ISIS. Israel secret inteligence service. Not a conspiracy theory. Its a fact. ISIS is the acronym for Mossad.
He also stated that climate change was a hoax created by China.
Don't get me wrong, I like Trump, I think he's entertaining as hell, but if you believe literally anything he says on the basis that he said it, then you're a gullible loon.
If they have proof of a child porn video by these people, it will destroy Trump if he got them released. Trump better know the agenda of those whispering in his ear. Find out now and take them into custody if the charges are true.
I have posted 2 links above and
Here's another quote from the family.
The US State Department needs to do everything in its power to arrange for Aya and her husband to be released and allowed to return to the United States.
It came to light that the children were beaten and forced to make false accusations on camera. A report showed no abuse to have transpired at the organization, and the families of the children have come forth defending Aya and her husband. Despite the evidence of their innocence, they are being held with no end in sight.
So does this mean Hillary/Kerry just left an innocent woman to rot in jail?
Just occurred to me that I might be the last non-shill on this forum. What the fuck, that make it funner. Although the mods will probably ban this post when the Brock shills cry to them loud enough. If Trump didn't have anything to do with it and he's seeing news headlines applauding him...I hope figures something out there.
How does this get downvoated by anyone? It's the original translation of the Egyptian charges in this top news story case. Why shouldn't we know what the original charges were? Hard news is hurtful?
You had to dig hard huh? Don't you ever get tired of peddling that nonsense? You had to go to a2014 article in the Morrocco World News? You missed this from the Washington Post?
The couple and their co-workers had been incarcerated since May 1, 2014, on child abuse and trafficking charges
Or this from CBS?
Authorities arrested Hijazi, her husband and six others in May 2014 on charges of abusing children that were widely dismissed as bogus
The first sentence in the NY Times article?
After three years in detention, the Egyptian-American aid worker Aya Hijazi was cleared of child abuse and human trafficking charges in Cairo on Sunday
Missed the Associated Press story, huh?
Earlier this week a court acquitted Hijazi of charges of child abuse that were widely dismissed as bogus by human rights groups and U.S. officials.
Probably didn't get to Reuters
Cairo court acquitted on Sunday an Egyptian-American woman and seven others who worked with street children and had been detained for nearly three years on human trafficking charges, in a case that had raised concerns in Washington.
None of that explains what is at my link. You seem desperate. As usual. I gave the explicit details and the explicit details are what hurts your feelings. God you suck at shilling.
Why would you being a idiot hurt my feelings? Do you really think she was convicted? Is that an actual innocent mistake? You know that's completely false right?
Because I have trouble believing it's an innocent mistake when you claimed to have digged hard into this case. Because by jumping to 2014, you seem to skip over all of the following
That the evidence was weak to nonexistent, (the boy in the initial on was actually found elsewhere in Egypt.)
The claim they "admissions" in the case came about after being beaten by police
Years of civil and human rights groups advocating in her behalf
The claim she was only arrested because Egypt was cracking down on civil society and all NGOs, especially ones with American funding,
Egypt delaying her trial again and again, (perhaps because they knew once they went to court, the evidence wouldn't hold up and the case would fall apart. )
The verdict of this case being decided in February, but Egypt wouldn't read the verdict for weeks and kept her in jail. *The case not even going to a verdict because EGYPT DROPPED ALL CHARGES AND SHE WAS NEVER CONVICTED OF A CRIME AND IS NOW OFFICIALLY NOT ACCUSED OF ANY CRIME?
Also I was quoting the first mention of the charges. From Reuters.
Hijazi and Hassanein were arrested in May 2014. They were accused of "organizing a group for the purposes of human trafficking, using children to disturb the public peace and order in protests, and holding them for sexual exploitation."
All that is the heart of what was known about this case in American media and easily accessible.
Let's quibble over legal terms and ignore the new details. All they have to do is show that Trump secured the release of one of Clinton's child porn producers and he's toast in 2020.
@whatonearth she wasn't even acquitted. It's much stronger than that. They dropped the charges meaning they no longer believe in the original charges.
And The_Crux, there were no "new details." What you are calling new details are fake accusations and confessions that were beaten out of them. This was known to anyone who followed this case.
All they have to do is show that Trump secured the release of one of Clinton's child porn producers and he's toast in 2020.
The story looks to be sourced to the actual Egyptian media at the time the scandal broke. The link they have there goes to an Arabic tv news channel. If anyone speaks Arabic or knows how to translate it they might find more information at the link provided by my link.
Well of course wading thru all the 'they are innocent' and not to discount Egypt is not above fabricating charges, the Belady Foundation does have ties to the Clinton Foundation. Hill herself tried to get them released. It was discussed on voat...>
In September 2016, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton called on President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to release Hegazy, during a meeting held in New York, a plea echoed later on in the month by a US congressmen.
There’s another side to Hillary and the Department of State that I have been stalking. This involves using young people, college kids, street kids to start uprisings, protests but referred as activism. US Dept of State sponsored usurpation of Governments. Our own, included, but used against the will of the American people. Think “Occupy” groups, BLM, etc.
"This search has lead me on to “The Alliance of Youth Movements Summit” and another group, name escaping me at the moment. As an example, the Egyptian-American, sitting in Egypt’s prison for years now, is a product of Hillary’s State sponsored project. The E-A formed an NGO called BeLady, supposedly taking orphans off the streets and caring for their needs. Which, according to Egyptian charges may only partly be true. One of the charges against her is kidnapping. I found photos of her “kids” protesting the Egyptian gvmt. Much like the BLM. Hillary had recently called for her release at one of her rallys, which peaked my curiosity. Information about the TAFYMS can be found on the DOS website. Many countries can be found with these groups of activists. Especially those in the last 8 years with such turmoil that overthrows gvmts."
Certainly enough to give one pause~thanks so much for the link. I thought with trump at least he didn't support sex with children. In light of his true intentions the disturbing pictures of Ivanka as a child with dear ol'dad have me rethinking.
I'm still holding onto the hope he'll do something but it's fading fast, especially seeing how brazen Clinton and Podesta have become and news about Chaffetz. It seems like Deep State have gotten to him.
Belady NGO raise a number of red flags for me. For starters, their logo prominently displays '666' symbol - almost as in your face as Rothschild wine label http://www.cihrs.org/?p=18575&lang=en
especially seeing how brazen Clinton and Podesta have become
Yeah, that is interesting isn't it?
And the Podesta twat too about Chaffetz and family.
Add to that the judge that supposedly committed suicide last week~
Plus Roger Stone on da Jones saying something about trump Syria strategy (Jones nodding head) that I couldn't even listen to past that point...okay stone and jones, does that include Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia?
It says in the article the American couple admitted to keeping 20 children hostage and forcing them into a CP production, is this true? How is it that they were released?
We don't know. I'm the only one on the English speaking internets providing real news so we can only now start sorting this shit out. Even the conservative sites are not gonna touch it. I'm the last legitimate news reporter/investigator. Alas, no fucking Pulitzers on my mantle shelf will be forthcoming.
And that doesn't mean the Egyptian reports weren't trumped up charges. It just means I'm the only one on English speaking internet reporting the original charges. Apparently it's hurtful for them to report the accusation.
They are named. Read the article. This Morocco site is translating the Egyptian television from the time of the charge. There's no reason to not believe that this was the charge, even if the charge was trumped up.
The US couple stated during the investigations that they had forced the children to have sex with each other in order to record them in a pornographic film production.
Did they actually admit to that or was it under torture? Did they have evidence of the recording? The fact that they actually released them makes me think that they weren't tortured because why would the government deliver the proof of their torture that would be found on their bodies?
If this is true, it is really sick. I hope it's not. Have we not had to deal with enough? The bad think is that we can't seem to get answers to anything. Wondering is so very hard.
Could be trumped up charges, but I hate the fact that they are from Church Falls, VA. That place comes up a lot. This article seems to be from 2014 so I'm pretty sure it's the "evidence" that got them convicted. Like I say, it all could be bullshit.
reasonedandinformed ago
The fact that none of the news reports mentioned this from the article is concerning:
It makes me wonder why they would not discuss the charges and how they were shown to be without merit.
The_Crux ago
All you have to do is provide more details than the media has decided should be provided and they go berserk. Has anyone found a western site acknowledging the child porn production? And it could be wrong but why not mention it? It sounds like an admission when they claim one charge is wrong without mentioning the other charge.
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Altmight ago
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Similarly, a 2003 Vanity Fair profile of Epstein named Trump as one of the “businessmen who dine with him at his home,” and several other articles have pegged Trump and Epstein as friends.
And when FBI investigators looked through Epstein’s private address book, they found 14 different phone numbers for Trump, including numbers for his security guard and houseman. Epstein also had numbers for Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his ex-wife Ivana. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/the-friendship-between-trump-and-a-billionaire-pedophile-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about/#ixzz4erWy9u31
Gothamgirl ago
Do you know that Trump stated during his campaign that he was the one that turned Epstein into the police?
Altmight ago
No. First Ive heard that. Its all very strange now. I hope its 4D chess he is playing. But he seems to be reading (((scripts))) now. Bannon seems to be out and (((jared))) has taken control of the narrative. Its all upside down. Im really not sure about any of it. But Trump suddenly seems like a puppet for Israel. A different person all around. Like something happened. If (((they))) have a pizzagate type vid on Trump possibly procured by (((Epstein))) that could explain the sudden 180 on Syria. But Assad did not do the gassing, no motive. He was winning by conventional means. Only 80 people were susposedly gassed anyway. No reason to start the WW3 narrative by antagonizing Russia on behalf of Israel. Isis does the gassing and we gave then the gas. Why do the neocons INSIST on saying ISIL? Because its well known that Mossad is internaly refered to IN ISRAEL as ISIS. Israel secret inteligence service. Not a conspiracy theory. Its a fact. ISIS is the acronym for Mossad.
Gothamgirl ago
There is no video of him at Epsteins doing anything illegal. For the rest we will see. I think tzuday is coming soon but thats just my opinion.
PizzaGateTwiceRetard ago
He also stated that climate change was a hoax created by China.
Don't get me wrong, I like Trump, I think he's entertaining as hell, but if you believe literally anything he says on the basis that he said it, then you're a gullible loon.
Gothamgirl ago
So let me get this straight your making accusations about my thoughts, and calling me names over my statement. Grow up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=maRT3TEcRLs
PizzaGateTwiceRetard ago
Yeah, I totally trust a YouTube channel called WHDT WORLD NEWS in all caps.
shizzle_mcbobblehead ago
You know he lied almost explicitly during his campaign, right?
Gothamgirl ago
No I didn't notice that at all.
The_Crux ago
If they have proof of a child porn video by these people, it will destroy Trump if he got them released. Trump better know the agenda of those whispering in his ear. Find out now and take them into custody if the charges are true.
Gothamgirl ago
They dont "Little if any evidence" was provided by prosecuters during the trail therefore she was aquitted.. Daily mail link is posted above.
The_Crux ago
How do you know there was "little if any evidence"? I just want to make sure you didn't read that in reliably fake news reports. Source?
Gothamgirl ago
I have posted 2 links above and Here's another quote from the family.
The US State Department needs to do everything in its power to arrange for Aya and her husband to be released and allowed to return to the United States. It came to light that the children were beaten and forced to make false accusations on camera. A report showed no abuse to have transpired at the organization, and the families of the children have come forth defending Aya and her husband. Despite the evidence of their innocence, they are being held with no end in sight.
So does this mean Hillary/Kerry just left an innocent woman to rot in jail?
The_Crux ago
Just occurred to me that I might be the last non-shill on this forum. What the fuck, that make it funner. Although the mods will probably ban this post when the Brock shills cry to them loud enough. If Trump didn't have anything to do with it and he's seeing news headlines applauding him...I hope figures something out there.
Ocelot ago
Wow, the very last one, huh? You literally think this entire forum is shills? How absurd.
cousineerie ago
The Last Non-Shill (starring Mr Bean).
The_Crux ago
Well, maybe just this late at night. Normals sleep.
The_Crux ago
How does this get downvoated by anyone? It's the original translation of the Egyptian charges in this top news story case. Why shouldn't we know what the original charges were? Hard news is hurtful?
Are_we_sure ago
Good for Trump.
You had to dig hard huh? Don't you ever get tired of peddling that nonsense? You had to go to a2014 article in the Morrocco World News? You missed this from the Washington Post?
Or this from CBS?
The first sentence in the NY Times article?
Missed the Associated Press story, huh?
Probably didn't get to Reuters
The_Crux ago
None of that explains what is at my link. You seem desperate. As usual. I gave the explicit details and the explicit details are what hurts your feelings. God you suck at shilling.
Are_we_sure ago
Why would you being a idiot hurt my feelings? Do you really think she was convicted? Is that an actual innocent mistake? You know that's completely false right?
Because I have trouble believing it's an innocent mistake when you claimed to have digged hard into this case. Because by jumping to 2014, you seem to skip over all of the following
That the evidence was weak to nonexistent, (the boy in the initial on was actually found elsewhere in Egypt.)
The claim they "admissions" in the case came about after being beaten by police
Years of civil and human rights groups advocating in her behalf
The claim she was only arrested because Egypt was cracking down on civil society and all NGOs, especially ones with American funding,
Egypt delaying her trial again and again, (perhaps because they knew once they went to court, the evidence wouldn't hold up and the case would fall apart. )
The verdict of this case being decided in February, but Egypt wouldn't read the verdict for weeks and kept her in jail. *The case not even going to a verdict because EGYPT DROPPED ALL CHARGES AND SHE WAS NEVER CONVICTED OF A CRIME AND IS NOW OFFICIALLY NOT ACCUSED OF ANY CRIME?
Also I was quoting the first mention of the charges. From Reuters.
All that is the heart of what was known about this case in American media and easily accessible.
The_Crux ago
Let's quibble over legal terms and ignore the new details. All they have to do is show that Trump secured the release of one of Clinton's child porn producers and he's toast in 2020.
Are_we_sure ago
@whatonearth she wasn't even acquitted. It's much stronger than that. They dropped the charges meaning they no longer believe in the original charges.
And The_Crux, there were no "new details." What you are calling new details are fake accusations and confessions that were beaten out of them. This was known to anyone who followed this case.
One of the dumbest things I have read on voat and that is saying something. Meanwhile back in the real world. http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/04/21/ap_17111559985081_custom-d338b857cd6be7f44e297f07af484c0989c9e76a-s800-c85.jpg
whatonearth ago
Saying that someone was acquitted (found not guilty) rather than convicted (found guilty) is not QUIBBLING OVER LEGAL TERMS! Holy moly!
The_Crux ago
The story looks to be sourced to the actual Egyptian media at the time the scandal broke. The link they have there goes to an Arabic tv news channel. If anyone speaks Arabic or knows how to translate it they might find more information at the link provided by my link.
SayWhatNOWAY ago
Calling Total BS on this story!
dougG ago
Of course you are, it makes Trump look bad
Gothamgirl ago
Actually it doesn't when you research the true story it's quite the opposite.
Gothamgirl ago
Can you provide a link with Trump's involvement with this persons release, I can not find it anywhere?
Are_we_sure ago
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/04/21/ap_17111559985081_custom-d338b857cd6be7f44e297f07af484c0989c9e76a-s800-c85.jpg
4_InquiringMinds ago
I can't find anything either...link or not true. Not that trump is not degenerate just can't connect him to their release.
The_Crux ago
The internet is hard.
Gothamgirl ago
Actually I thought you looked into it & thats why I asked & actually its not let me help you out. http://dailym.ai/2p8wugD https://www.change.org/p/free-american-imprisoned-for-helping-homeless-children
Mad_As_Hell ago
Unfortunately it says here that Trump personally oversaw their release https://archive.fo/0zq08
4_InquiringMinds ago
Well of course wading thru all the 'they are innocent' and not to discount Egypt is not above fabricating charges, the Belady Foundation does have ties to the Clinton Foundation. Hill herself tried to get them released. It was discussed on voat...>
Laura Silsby Connection
and a bit more here...
Aya Hegazy and seven others were acquitted
Protecting Hillary
"This search has lead me on to “The Alliance of Youth Movements Summit” and another group, name escaping me at the moment. As an example, the Egyptian-American, sitting in Egypt’s prison for years now, is a product of Hillary’s State sponsored project. The E-A formed an NGO called BeLady, supposedly taking orphans off the streets and caring for their needs. Which, according to Egyptian charges may only partly be true. One of the charges against her is kidnapping. I found photos of her “kids” protesting the Egyptian gvmt. Much like the BLM. Hillary had recently called for her release at one of her rallys, which peaked my curiosity. Information about the TAFYMS can be found on the DOS website. Many countries can be found with these groups of activists. Especially those in the last 8 years with such turmoil that overthrows gvmts."
Certainly enough to give one pause~thanks so much for the link. I thought with trump at least he didn't support sex with children. In light of his true intentions the disturbing pictures of Ivanka as a child with dear ol'dad have me rethinking.
Mad_As_Hell ago
I'm still holding onto the hope he'll do something but it's fading fast, especially seeing how brazen Clinton and Podesta have become and news about Chaffetz. It seems like Deep State have gotten to him.
Belady NGO raise a number of red flags for me. For starters, their logo prominently displays '666' symbol - almost as in your face as Rothschild wine label http://www.cihrs.org/?p=18575&lang=en
4_InquiringMinds ago
Yeah, that is interesting isn't it?
And the Podesta twat too about Chaffetz and family. Add to that the judge that supposedly committed suicide last week~ Plus Roger Stone on da Jones saying something about trump Syria strategy (Jones nodding head) that I couldn't even listen to past that point...okay stone and jones, does that include Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia?
Gothamgirl ago
It also says she was acquitted of all charges during the trial. So this whole post was pointless..
4_InquiringMinds ago
Not necessarily/connections to the Clinton Foundation.
Gothamgirl ago
I said Clinton/Kerry, it was one or the other running the State department at that time.
The_Crux ago
Seriously? It's one of the top news stories. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/freed-egyptian-american-prisoner-returns-home-following-trump-intervention/2017/04/20/d569fe1e-2608-11e7-bb9d-8cd6118e1409_story.html?utm_term=.36a515b1723b
Gothamgirl ago
Seriously, I don't read that fake garbage news paper. The supporting links should've been provided from the get go, don't you think?
The_Crux ago
Your concern is so intense as to seem almost tangible.
Gothamgirl ago
I was only asking a legitimate question. If your story was correct, then I couldn't support him any longer.
Votescam ago
Trump just got these people released ..... ? Child trafficking, child porn . . .
!!!
The_Crux ago
And they might have evidence that the charges were bogus and any confessions were coerced. We don't know.
Mad_As_Hell ago
It says in the article the American couple admitted to keeping 20 children hostage and forcing them into a CP production, is this true? How is it that they were released?
The_Crux ago
We don't know. I'm the only one on the English speaking internets providing real news so we can only now start sorting this shit out. Even the conservative sites are not gonna touch it. I'm the last legitimate news reporter/investigator. Alas, no fucking Pulitzers on my mantle shelf will be forthcoming.
And that doesn't mean the Egyptian reports weren't trumped up charges. It just means I'm the only one on English speaking internet reporting the original charges. Apparently it's hurtful for them to report the accusation.
Jobew1 ago
why the eff wouldn't the us couple be named? one could speculate why. (this is assuming this is legit news)
The_Crux ago
They are named. Read the article. This Morocco site is translating the Egyptian television from the time of the charge. There's no reason to not believe that this was the charge, even if the charge was trumped up.
Jobew1 ago
my mistake. didn't read close enough and assumed the islamic sounding names were the "beauty queen" and a hubby or something.
The_Crux ago
The US couple stated during the investigations that they had forced the children to have sex with each other in order to record them in a pornographic film production.
Did they actually admit to that or was it under torture? Did they have evidence of the recording? The fact that they actually released them makes me think that they weren't tortured because why would the government deliver the proof of their torture that would be found on their bodies?
carmencita ago
If this is true, it is really sick. I hope it's not. Have we not had to deal with enough? The bad think is that we can't seem to get answers to anything. Wondering is so very hard.
The_Crux ago
Could be trumped up charges, but I hate the fact that they are from Church Falls, VA. That place comes up a lot. This article seems to be from 2014 so I'm pretty sure it's the "evidence" that got them convicted. Like I say, it all could be bullshit.