Unanswered questions: Snopes, wikipedia, coporate media claim pizzagate is debunked. Since these claims persist, can anyone show how the "debunkers" addressed any key questions that we have raised? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by reasonedandinformed

This post is being made to expose that, four months after this story first exploded, all we have seen from corporate/social media and law enforcement is an effort to censor, block,and/or ridicule our investigation. Here is a summary of some of our key findings that have not been touched at all by the MSM or law enforcement. Please click on any and all links below to see how neither major corporate media authorities nor law enforcement have actually addressed any of the legitimate concerns raised by pizzagate:

This is just a short list of the many questions that no one in the media has even asked...let alone answered. The echo chamber simply dismissed it as a hoax/false news without any investigative effort, yet they arrogantly attack us for making unsubstantiated claims. Also, ask yourself this: If this is not legitimate, why would the media/TPTB expend so much energy, including paying for CTR shills on this and other forums, trying to prove this is false without any attempt to actually investigate? The answer: Propaganda is inversely proportional to the truth!

Note: I did not even mention the "pizza code" that started the investigation as the code was a helpful pointer rather than the nexus of proof, with the real evidence found once we started digging.

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rickman ago

I know there has been reports of children being present at Comet around 8 or 9pm. I have not seen any report or proof children have been present during any of the bands performing. I think its important to get these things right. The term All Ages Welcome doesn't mean children are welcome. It refers to venues who don't allow under 21s in. This exclusion means teens and young adults find it hard to see local live music when the venues rely heavily on alcohol sales.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/748-the-fight-for-all-ages-shows/

Is it also a sinister joke that has a double meaning for a sicko like Alefantis? Probably. But its definitely not an advertisement for peoplel to bring their small children to watch Sex Stains or Heavy Breathing.

I do have an issue with these bands appearing in a venue that welcomes children anyway. The two demographics do not mix and I do not understand why someone would want such a duel purpose venue. But then Alefantis has proved he has no fondness or respect for children.

reasonedandinformed ago

There is abundant evidence of kids being present very late:

  • Voat post discussing kids being present at late hours while the band played: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466152 (especially posts from Yelp)

  • Multiple investigators who have visited CPP documented that young children were running around at late hours (10 pm+), some unattended and often emerging from and returning to back rooms that were behind curtains. Sample thread: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464801

rickman ago

The only comment I could see was that kids were around while they were making space for the bands. Doesn't mean the kids were there during the bands performance.

I'm aware kids have been seen late at night. I didn't know it was that late though.

reasonedandinformed ago

There were investigators that spent several hours there, late into the night, after this was first uncovered. There have been several posts about this on Voat, but I cannot find them as their search tool is very limited and does not pull up full results. However, they specifically mentioned kids coming in and out of the back rooms very late, after 10 pm. Many times the kids were not accompanied. They also described adults showing up late (for a young child), 9:30 pm or later, with kids and heading to the back rooms. Kids were very regularly moving in and out of the back rooms which are blocked by curtains. Maybe someone reading this can find the posts or videos, but there has been significant documentation of this.

rickman ago

I wonder if there is a good reason Alefantis has two restaurants close by. Parents drop their kids off at Comet. The "play" area. They then leave the kids and go into Buck's. Buck=paedophile and so Buck's would be the meeting place for them. Parents then sit down to a dinner while the paedophiles go over to Comet to watch the kids.

Even if parents did this innocently. Staff tell them their kids are safe here if they want to go for a quieter meal at Bucks.

reasonedandinformed ago

The connection is not random. CPP gets far more attention, but Buck's is worth the same amount of focus. My thought has actually been that CPP is the transactional front and that some of the evil occurs at Buck's, which appears to have a basement. With the rooms hidden by curtains at CPP, anything is possible. There is also Pegasus Museum (not a real museum). JA threatened the investigator who posted videos about it linked the the "killroom."

Take a look at just this one thread on Buck's: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466453, with the image being analyzed linked here: https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/bucksfishing.jpg?w=768