David, can HLS be trusted, are they telling you this, just to appease you. I don't trust any of them, including Trump. Remember, he was also a client on the Lolita Express and made many comments about how great a guy Epstein is.
As much as it hurts to say it, that's probably true. We can't, shouldn't, and won't wait forever, but we do have to wait at least a bit for the official wheels to grind -- assuming they are going to.
Meanwhile, full speed ahead on our own investigations and discussions. Waiting does not mean doing nothing.
He's a Jew? Zionist? yeah it makes all the difference in the world, Zionist Jews are the group that has taken control of our State Department and gov in general
Homeland security is apparently investigating yet evidence keeps being rapidly removed and wiped off the internet. I don't buy it. Never trust these government agencies for what they say. Keep investigating and keep archiving and screenshotting everything.
I'm not sure they could pull off a limited back-pedal like that, at this point. The wall of denial has been ferocious and absolute. "None of it was true." Trying to walk back from that... I'd like to see them try it.
You don't just screw a pooch -- or a child -- a little bit. It's a did or didn't thing.
DHS is part of it. You guys are really really bad researchers... and really really gullible if you believe the agency created to push the police state on us after 9/11 has your interest in mind... so fucking retarded.
thank you CTR! You make it so easy to identify who is exposing the pedofiles! The more you try to discredit this journalist the more we know he is effective at exposing the truth! Good job guys thank you for the encouragement and making it so easy....lol
So this guy worked for one of the most obvious propaganda machines (and that's saying a lot in this day and age) and we're supposed to buy that he is now 100% on the straight and narrow? Fuck that, he's a shill clearly. Semen wants my money? Hahahahahahaha, fuck off. Go jerk it and sell your namesake.
Here's all you need to know about Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan -
They looted the country dry.
They appointed their own to cabinet positions to change law to allow it (mortgage backed securities, 300% interest loans, etc. etc.)
They paid themselves back for doing it with tax dollars (TARP)
The amount TARP gave them could have paid off all the mortgages in country, all the credit card debt of every American, all the student loans, all the debts people carry.
People are going to for-profit-prisons for parking ticket debts.
**Rumor mill: **the reason Trump is chummy suddenly with Goldman Sachs is because of a loan arrangement on his properties. He holds the debts personally.
They are friendly because THEY ARE ALL FRIENDS...dont be so naive.
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump said. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” - Donald Trump
The Friendship Between Trump And A Billionaire Pedophile That Nobody Wants To Talk About
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Similarly, a 2003 Vanity Fair profile of Epstein named Trump as one of the “businessmen who dine with him at his home,” and several other articles have pegged Trump and Epstein as friends.
And when FBI investigators looked through Epstein’s private address book, they found 14 different phone numbers for Trump, including numbers for his security guard and houseman. Epstein also had numbers for Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his ex-wife Ivana.
Brittney Pettibone offered him a ticket but he turned it down.
David Seaman - journalist & YouTube personality - Journalist - Colorado, USA - I ... I won't be attending Deploraball (thanks for the golden ticket, though, Brittany ...
I see your point and feel your frustration. I think I'm maybe looking at it from the perspective of the unconvinced or skeptics that will come here for information. We can revel in our own certainty and the righteousness of our cause but that doesn't bring people over to our side. It turns people away. The game is to leverage this momentum and exposure to disrupt the mainstream narrative, draw attention and credibility to this issue. As I see it anyhow. Ultimately to help drive enough pressure to force an official and closely watched investigation. How many blatant and far more 'proven' pedophile scandals have come and gone without uproar over the last 30 years. It's not for a lack of information that people stay in the dark. So whether we are right or wrong, justified or not, the more 'fuck colbert' direction we go in the more we risk alienating people. That doesn't mean I disagree with your point. But we already know we're right. It's all those that don't I'm most concerned with reaching. Which brings me to: if anyone has any basic video editing skills please message me if you'd be willing to consider helping me with an idea. Thanks
lol its okay I was just surprised- I've only ever heard him be right on in his criticisms of the US war machine and other things. Glad to know at least ONE thing is still good and what I thought it was. .
this thought on the vid was sent to me by a west coast person -
"Homeland Security was designed on the format and purpose of the Phoenix Program in Vietnam. The Phoenix Program and other programs (Project Popeye - weather modification) in Vietnam were set up there to take over the US with. The Phoenix program was set up to destroy the civilian support for the Vietcong... ha ha ha like civilian support for the true patriots and resistant movement if it happened in the US... well organized resistance is not going to happen. The trained military veterans would be the most organized and able group in the US to fight this off and save the country, but they are so old and sick (Vietnam Agent Orange), or young and sicker (DU) that it will not happen.
Trump will just be another part of the animal machine that eats America alive. He is surrounded by Goldman Sachs fucks in his cabinet. So Trump will create jobs, hire the unemployed, borrow $billions from Goldman Sachs to build new infrastructure (like they are doing in Berkeley), and then they will wire up and weaponize the entire electrical grid in the US and we will be captives and controlled 100% by the EMF algorithms they are already transmitting all over Calif. "
I'll point you to this example. Trump went through three campaign managers along his path to victory. He said "you're fired" to both Corey and Manafort and ended up with Conway who brought the victory home. Don't underestimate his drive towards his agenda, and when he sees someone trying to usurp that he will get rid of them. I'd also point out that you need "insiders" to take down establishment people. Remember he has also surrounded himself with Generals, for a reason.
we could be if Trump would quit meeting with Kissinger and appointing Sachs crooks. But-t-t if Hillary were in we wouldn't be here... she would have started nuke war before today.
If we make it through tonight, we'll be golden. Remember, its 1930 on the east coast. The balls are about to fire up. Every Dem has left town by now. If shit were gonna go down, tonight would be the night. I pray I'm wrong.
I am going to try to explain something to this group and I know this to be true because a lot of my subs on YT have told me. People are intimidated to post anything in this group because how viciously they get attacked. Maybe it shills doing it but I have witnessed it myself. If you want sincere people to help with the investigation, please refrain from belittling people or the group will dwindle and that would be a fucking shame cause there's good work being done here.
That's not realistic on the web...even if the good guys refrain from attacking people, the bad guys won't. You would be better off telling your friends to have thick skin and to remember that in the end, they are just reading words on a screen....don't let it affect you or your message.
THis video on another thread is from 30 years ago. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/comments/1580363. Law enforcement didn't bust it up then, didn't bust it up in the Franklin Scandal, see in the Sudusky scandal they helped cover up the wider child sex ring.
Bottom Line be skeptical of hell coming from DHS etc. If it does you can bet it will be in the Sudesky Penn State style. - limited to a few players while the bigger more powerful ring is kept hidden and protected
The account that claimed to be alefantis came here and posted that he was in cahoots with d_seaman and that they were making money off the pizzagate shirts as a joke and whatnot....
Maybe the use of gmail and selling state secrets won't cover HRC from prosecution. The server and the 640K emails cover more than the CF. And the evil goes a lot worse than HRC. Btw did anyone else notice when Trump left the innaguration stand that he may have snubbed the Clintons?
If this breaks out, media is dead. Somehow they will still lie their asses off, how they reported the report of possible fake news or something stupid like that.
I agree he was smug in his coverage of this issue, but I think we should be careful about distinguishing between people willfully/knowingly running cover and those that are experiencing cognitive dissonance as they face something that threatens their entire worldview. I know. Tell that to the kids counting on this story growing legs... But not everyone who is not with us is against us. I have many people in my life who now accept two planes didn't knock down three buildings that were far more smug than Colbert when I first broached the issue. Whenever I was contemptuous of another's inability to see what I saw, it cost me the relationship and an opportunity to bring them over. We are in a war for hearts and minds, and our passion is so powerful we should guard our contempt for others carefully. But I don't know Colbert, he could be shill #1 for all I know... just something to consider.
Yes, some deserve jail, others deserve scorn and shunning. Cobert, etc., deserve scorn and shunning. When the public gives you a big platform to express, you have a duty to be responsible with it. It's not like there haven't been multiple instances of pedo rings involving high-ranking government officials.
They could have kept their mouths shut, but instead they stuck their feet in them.
Actions have consequences. Boycotts and ridicule will encourage responsible behavior going forward.
No...excuse. With a platform as large as what Colbert has he has the DUTY to do due diligence before dismissing something and making fun of it. He's either a pedo himself (most of the LOLers are) or he's a piss poor journalist. I grant him no quarter and zero excuses.
CIA is pretty versed in stealth wars. Homeland Security being the relatively new guy on the block, probably not so much. The sad thing is neither of these faceless, nameless entities are battling over good vs evil. They are simply battling over a bigger slice of the budget.
Exactly, from HP, he hasn't done anything except interject himself and his personal drama upon the Pizzagate investigation-ITS NOT ABOUT YOU SEAMANS-ITS ABOUT THE CHILDREN!
He has done a good job spreading awareness, I'll give him that. I sincerely applaud his courage in being outspoken about this and making numerous videos where he calls out Podesta and company. That's a big personal risk, not just for his professional reputation (if this doesn't get exposed, he'll never have a mainstream career again), also for his wallet (calling somebody a pedophile repeatedly opens you up to big potential lawsuits), and even his life (we all know how many of certain peoples' enemies end up shooting themselves in the back of their head twice or whatever).
But is he actually reporting? Has he actually uncovered anything new about Pizzagate that's been verified or come true?
Maybe I'm wrong, but to me he seems to be making videos just about daily recapping what's publicly known about the scandal, calls Podesta a pedophile a few times, and uses that to rake in a ton of donations.
Not that he's not doing some good....but is he actively researching? Is he making verifiable true claims? I don't dislike the man: in fact I like some of his videos a lot. But I have to question everything here.
All of you have been doing some hard breaking research; looking into the connections, finding new leads. As for Seaman, I'm dubious. He presents some truths but doesn't get into the details. I'm not saying he's a gate keeper but he did work for the Post.
Sounds like you're trying to equate the two so you can say anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. One things for sure, Seaman won't be censored for any Zionist speech if free speech on the internet goes down.
He was literally saying the opposite of that. You seemed to think that Seaman being Jewish means he's a Zionist but it doesn't at all, and it is anti-semitic to make that assumption, because you're judging someone's opinions, beliefs, attitudes etc not on what they've said or how they've acted, but just on the basis of a particular category they happen to be in (i.e. Jewish). Well, he fits in a lot of other categories too, like people with brown hair, males, people who wear glasses, YouTubers, Americans, 30 year olds, Trump supporters, journalists, ex-Huffington Post contributors, etc etc. So why would you choose just the one category on which to judge what his attitudes and beliefs are? It's when people do that that it's racist, anti-semitic, ageist, sexist, whatever-ist, and it's disliked in general because it's incredibly unfair and also a dumb way of judging any person, as each person will fit into a diverse range of categories.
Hang on, you think I'm arguing for Zionism?! Eh? No way. I didn't see Seaman's video where he puts across any Zionist views, so if that's the case then I was wrong and obviously you judged him on the basis of what he said and not just on his being Jewish. In which case I'm sorry. I do not equate anti-semitism with anti-zionism, anti-zionism is being against a political ideology and actions based on that ideology, and anti-semitism is being against Jewish people just because they were born Jewish.
He did one or two videos recapping Pizzagate in the beginning. He hasn't broken anything, or even offered any particularly insightful commentary except doing videos how he was being persecuted for reporting on Pizzagate.
Zionism has its own track record. And what is his proven track record besides coming out of the woodwork with Pizzagate and obviously trying to capitalize on it? And that is reason to believe someone? Fake news, here we come!
Whoa! Those Jews! Like that little old lady that always drops a Christmas Card in my mail box and I drop all the appropriate cards in hers? Jews always do? That kind of talk really drags this sub down. It reeks of shilldom and racism.
I REALLY hope this is true! Trump's speech was amazing... I can only hope the light is shown on these cockroaches. There is no recourse for their crimes... they must be eradicated! A "new world order" indeed...
More and more, voat is turning into cuckville. A flood of liberal 'anti-racism' walking custards showed up (it seems) over the past month or so. It's interesting how many lines have been blurred, as well. I mean, there are so many different genres of people in here that it's hard for everyone to be on the same page 'cause a lot of 'em are on the J.Q. learning curve and currently in denial. It's a regular Cucksymphony...
The point of this board is to leave political believes aside and investigate as one, effective hivemind of people. This divisive bullshit is what keeps most people ignorant about the much bigger issues like pizzagate.
I know banter and memeing is a lot of fun but if you want that stuff go back to >>/pol/
To assume that one knows any reason why another posts a comment is absurd and shows that your intellect is waning. It is not divisive to point out patterns or truth. To be ignorant is a personal choice. It is called ignoring. Disregarding the truth even though it is available. Nescience is when the truth is unavailable. 'What keeps most people ignorant is exactly that mentality; a personal choice. I don't keep people ignorant. They do by not doing the research. Instead of labeling someone with the same bullshit claims and parroting what your masters say, why not try disproving some of the connections? You will find it is more difficult than you think and it also puts you in a category of people that are despised without any reason. If you haven't gotten to the Jewish Question then you haven't gone far enough and it shows your willingness to defeat yourself and your own research due to your own self defeat in an attempt to protect your own selfishness. Learn the Trivium and start to think critically. I don't hate the Jews. I'm against the ones who try to control others and bend their national laws to accomodate the Talmudic law. Kicked out of 109 countries for usury and other things. I love all people who don't wish to control others. Plain and simple.
Where did I assume to know the reason for your comment? I only pointed out that what you describe here as the "truth" is toxic to a "community" (for lack of a better word) like the one investigating pizzagate. The less divided we are about at this point meaningless issues like the prevalence of jews in high positions, the more effective we are at working toward our common goal: bringing the sick perverts to justice that make up a good percentile of the elite.
The shit you wrote about jews may be right, but it is completely irrelevant to this investigation and you bringing it up here serves no purpuse except for mental masturbation on your part.
So I'm parroting what my "masters" say because I don't want the community to be devided? Yeah that makes total sense. I love how you rant on about how I can't disprove what you said when I never even attempted to do so. You just completely missed my point and had to start this rant because you were triggered so badly.
meaningless issues like the prevalence of jews in high positions>
Some would argue with you; George Washington, Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Martin Luther (On the Jews and their Lies)...
bringing the sick perverts to justice that make up a good percentile of the elite>
I would contend that a lot of them are jews; Roy Cohn, Maria Abramovic (if the last name doesn't say it), Jeffrey Epstein...
completely irrelevant to this investigation>
see previous. 'You must be Jewsih, love your nails' -- Frank Zappa
Yeah that makes total sense>
Another argument defeating rebuttal from the visceral pillar of logic incarnate. In any debate, one should use logic to backup any claims made of which the claimant bears the onus of proof. But, I guess that makes total sense...
Thanks for playing.
Pointing out that you named yourself a lurker and subsequently posted your thoughts, thereby contradicting your user name is my life's work. Are you saying it's meaningless?
We are citizen investigators and document our claims. We should continue to build and document a summary list of all the "fake news" sites that falsely debunked and smeared the story without any investigation. Someone please archive all of these references.
We are citizen investigators and document our claims. We should continue to build and document a summary list of all the "fake news" sites that falsely debunked and smeared the story without any investigation. Someone please archive all of these references.
please add CBC news...the Canadian public news corp who has frequently referred to pizzagate as fake news. I emailed them several times to look into to...and that was their response.
I once had this idea...as a response to the PropOrNot "fack checking" website. The idea was to call out the Mockingbird Media with a website MockOrNot listing the compromised parties which is pretty much all of the Mainsteam Media, even if it's just a wordpress blog
It seems you have already begun a nice compilation. You are free to use this idea :)
Beautiful. Just copy / pasted to Word doc with all links. Save it, archive it, make copies everywhere. How can we get it on #Pizzagate Wiki? http://pizzagate.wiki/Main_Page
Nice list you got there. I couldn't agree with you more; these institutions are doing us a great injustice. Why not protest outside of their offices, and organize like minded people to stand with you. Is is because that would be too large a sacrifice? I personally think it would be. What does that say about us?
I am thankful to all that have worked, and continue to work, to bring this information to light. But i feel that it is time for more than just investigating. Many people agree that these companies are not operating in our best interest. It is time to fight these people with the tools we have. It is time to fight in the style they are accustomed. These groups have no trouble pointing the finger at competing news outlets that do not share their views. They call for boycotts and have forced advertisers to quit campaigns with opposing news outlets (fact).
I would like to see this list expanded to include the advertisers (funder's). And I would like to have the contact information for the advertisers added. Then we can begin a collaborated effort to both contact and boycott these funders that assist news agencies in confusing and dominating us. Companies that see no problems in supporting filth. We need to hold these companies responsible for their funding and make them think twice about who they support; as all of us need to do in these times.
Only then will we begin to have an effect! Money isn't the most important thing; it's the only thing to these kind. It's time to start hitting where it hurts.
Fake News Surge Pins D.C. Pizzeria As Home To Child-Trafficking : NPR
Interview with Alefantis consisted entirely of asking Alefantis to describe his investigation into who is being mean to him and making fake news about him. Not one mention of any red flag evidence against him. It will be easy to shut down that fake news operation if this all pans out.
No joke, man. I stopped following the dude. No original work, not even any deep analysis. Just droning on about how Pizzagate is "real" (whatever that means), and how John Podesta is "sick" (which isn't a crime), how bona fide a journalist he is (because he wrote for free for Huffpo), etc., etc. And now he's going on about some secret sources he has.
I'm starting to wonder whether the guy is some sort of plant.
Yeah right....if you were Southern Baptist, you would be aware that the Jews are God's chosen people, because Southern Baptists read the Bible...whatever dude...
Well, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. As far as why God has a chosen people, it is because of his promise to Abraham and nothing else.
How about God promises to do away with pain for a start? How about that for a promise? If you believe the fairy tales of the bible and you're only one of many, I laugh at the prospects of the human race.
So this gets flagged as important, with no credible sources?.. Just heresay from somebody that literally hasn't contributed even the smallest bit of info. His lack of new leads and lack of saying anything worthy should be your first clue. Asking for donations should be your second. He hurts pizzagate more then he helps it. He's BARELY even a journalist to begin with. loser got fired and now he's trying to cash in on this with his fake ass empathy. Beyond obvious, blows my mind people are falling for it.
So he gets flagged as important... Yet shit that ACTUALLY IS IMPORTANT, gets deleted. Makes sense.
He got fired from HuffPo for writing about Killary's health. Now that I think about it he really hasn't brought anything new to the table re: PG. I just liked his righteous indignation at supposedly eithical and moral people doing and saying NOTHING that I didn't see him for what he is. I had a weird sense about him even entertaining going on the Daily Show. If it had aired it would have been so chopped and screwed and made him look like an idiot, no question. And set the whole effort back a ways. Man, this is total bullshit. We're supposed to believe that as of last night (when the tweet went out), while Homeland Security was still being headed by Jeh Johnson, that someone at Deploraball who claims they work there- oh man, forget it. Homeland Security is the biggest Stasi/police state/death camp/freak show on the planet. This is right up their alley. Wouldn't surprise me one iota if they warehouse kids in those suddenly closed Walmarts in Texas ferchrissakes.
I take responsibility for this flair, you can be absolutely right, but David Seaman's activity so far doesn't seem to hurt Pizzagate. The first video I saw about Pizzagate was his, and I'm not alone with that, he's one of the most prominent public faces out there supporting the fight against Pizzagate. He may not investigate, but he sure publicizes, risking his own money and safety in the process. He might just want to cash in on this, there's nothing that proves the opposite. I flaired this as important adding "if this is true and the investigation is not rigged". Although to be honest, if it turns out to be a hoax, then it is also important because then we will find out that you are right and David Seaman is not to be trusted. We win something either way.
Fair enough. Just so sick of seeing David Seaman articles everywhere. Not fond of him AT ALL. Can see right thru his bs. George Webb, if anyone, should be the one getting the attention.. Somebody that investigates, puts himself out there, and doesn't ask for money... Not saying I fully trust him or anyone else either though.
Im fine with people asking for donations to help support them while doing invenstigations...shit I want intelligent hard working people investigating pizza gate.
Alex jones has sold brain pills on infowars...That is problematic for me. He's like the charlatan in World War Z.
But he was the first guy to get video of Bohemian Grove If I remember correctly...So he's made some contributions to the public.
Where do you people come from?...60 votes in under 45 minutes?....11 upvotes for top coment in under 20 minutes?...What group keeps pushing this David Seaman?
Nothing will be done by this new administration....nothing...
Vice President Mike Pence good Friends with child rapist Dennis Hastert?
I agree-this whole Seaman thing is ridiculous-he's been on his soapbox for weeks, not about Pizzagate BUT HIS PERSONAL PROBLEMS, NOTHING WHICH HE SHOULDN'T HAVE understood when he started becoming a visible reporter
Do you have a source for Pence and Hastert being close friends, besides a user comment on reddit? I don't doubt it. I just want to document the connection if possible.
Thanks! So it looks like Pence is down with the pedo ring, or at the very least, he is extremely ignorant and a terrible judge of character. I'm betting on the former.
Nothing will happen, the RNC is also involved. For crying out loud they helped to orchestrate 9/11. WTC7, fell due to fires at freefall speed into the greatest path of resistance.
The more they try to control something, the more they are controlled by it. They have spent the last 20 years trying to control the internet, and now hackers keep exposing their secrets.
I suspect peter thiel is involved somehow. There seems to be a connection between podesta and the gawker hit piece on thiel. As to why the democrats wanted to attack thiel, i have not found a good reason yet.
As to why the democrats wanted to attack thiel, i have not found a good reason yet.
The same reason democrats attack conservative blacks. He's gay and conservative. That's a huge threat to the identity politics the democrats depend on to get elected. If all of the oppresed special snowflakes (LBQT, blacks, feminists, etc) realize they're really not, the Democrats are fucked.
Was thinking the exact same thing. Also thinking, "Home F-ing Land Security?!" Is that a joke or what? Now I'm suspicious of David Seaman. He might have gotten so pissed about getting fired for writing about Killary's health that he trashed his whole MSM career to become a gatekeeper. Hmph. This whole thing stinks to me. Jeh Johnson is actively investigating this. Ok. I call bullshit on David Seaman. And Peter Thiel is just gross for transfusing himself with kids' blood, I don't care if they're still alive and not in cages and he lets them go home with a cookie after donating a pint. Which I seriously doubt, by the way. Ick.
I hope this does not tip Obama off to pardon Hillary at this point. He has shown no conscience in who he has pardoned and commuted up to this point...and he has shown his communist card in recent days, releasing the Communist, pro-Castro terrorist/murderer Oscar Lopez-Rivera. There is nothing that he is unwilling to do that is overtly wrong. I pray that Trump is safe today.
LOL...my first thought given Clinton corruption was Chelsea Clinton. I still refer to the army leaker as Bradley Manning or Private Manning. This whole gender fluidity thing will result in adults self identifying as children and then justifying their pedo predelictions by saying that it involves consenting acts between children.
LOL, sorry, let's call him Bradley. That whole story never made sense. What a bad script. An honest person, who believes in truth and exposure, clearly understands that they will be caught and imprisoned for life or executed...but somehow also thinks he always wanted to be a tranny.
Why would anybody believe this? The fact that the guy is trying to make a name/career for himself is hardly in question. Is this normal journalistic behavior, to quote from unseen sources so much? Or is it just exploiting people's confirmation bias? I see he changed his avatar from the golden Star of David.
You sound like you are trying to discredit a person who even list his job for exposing the truth. His track record has earned him my respect. You on the other hand, who are you trying to discredit a reputable source. What is your track record? Why should anyone believe you? In fact why are you in this thread ?
David Seaman already has a career and history as a journalist. He's been featured multiple times on the Joe Rogan Experience (Google It), and you don't get on that show for being a nobody who lacks a name or career. A better question is: why wouldn't people believe it? And what's the ulterior motive of posters pretending Seaman hasn't been a reputable journalist for some time?
Seriously. It only takes a brief google search to see Seaman isn't some random dude profiting off Pizzagate. Please bare this information in mind, for those reading into this thread and haven't heard of Seaman until Pizzagate. He's been around.
Being part of the msm makes him credible? And just because Joe Rogan has his own radio show doesn't make him credible either. Most people who have a platform are disinformation shills, so yeah, the resume doesn't do much for me.
The new "normal" journalistic behavior is why our home is now at voat, since we were banned at Reddit. So no this is not normal journalistic behavior, because all of the normal journalists are screaming fake news on orders from TPTB.....have you been following pizzagate at all?
I've followed it enough to know that they've started scrubbing Pizzagate from the web, most likely using "fake news" as the excuse to censor. Wonder how Seaman's phantom sources might play into all that?
If Pizzagate is considered "fake news", don't those who believe in it have a duty to avoid falling into that trap? Shouldn't we require more than someone's word that something is true?
Fair enough...but this was not intended by Seaman to be confirmation of anything. To me, it was more of a morale booster for the citizen investigators that have been under attack.
Let's play what do we actually know.
1) David Seaman is one of the few public figures screaming pizzagate from the roof tops.
2) There are white hats in the govt. on our side (FBI anon).
With those two facts in mind, is it so outlandish that one of the white hats might have confided in him anonymously?
I believe David Seaman is telling the truth. Yes it is normal to quote from unseen source. For security purposes, journalists cannot always provide their sources. Just think of Wikileaks, they don't provide their sources, but what they leak has always been proven true.
As for David Seaman, it's anybody's guess. I believe him, others may not. Only time will tell.
And I can see quoting from secret sources as in a supplementary way, but to make it the crux of their reporting is just retarded. It really reeks of someone making things up. This guy is making youtube videos from his living room. And he has secret insider government sources? Nah, let's not question that.
Sure, it is a possibility. And the fact that you are questionning this is perfectly ok. However I don't understand why it would be so absurd that a guy making videos from his living room could have insider government sources. What is the logic here? Steve Pieczenik gave interviews recently where he appears to be in his living room. So what?
Anyway I think he is telling the truth, but I could be wrong.
And I take what Steve Pieczenik says and anybody like him with a grain of salt. If it proves true, great. But there are disinfo agents working and many of them are featured on Alex Jones. I do think Seaman is trying to position himself at that level in the Alt-media. Like the new Alex Jones or Paul Joseph Watson. He should break into Bohemian Grove and film if it he wants to do that.
And... he was fired. He seems rather desperate and crazed to get another job again. Not sure this is going to do it for him.
Since when was cheerleading a point of honor in the alt-Media? We already have Alex Jones, and most everyone with any sense knows he's not to be trusted.
Skepticism is not the biggest troll tactic that is being used right now. Upvoting possible fake news is, creating a fake consensus that weak-minded people fall for.
I'm trying to save Pizzagate from becoming a joke. It might be too late.
Yea... he was fired when he wrote about Hillarys health and ate a gigantic red pill. Wtf is your point in this?
Let's say for the sake of argument he is only doing this for a paycheck (when there are far simpler topics to tackle that doesn't draw deep state heat rounds), does his work by contribute towards the ultimate SHARED goal of justice? The more I read from you, the more I sense that justice is not your underlying intent, but that's my personal perspective.
Do you think this is the path of least resistance for him?
You do know that the conspiracy community is seeded with disinformation agents? It's a known tactic. To not know that is naivety at its worst. No one is better or more trustworthy than what they show themselves to be. You don't just believe Alex Jones because you like to think you'd be his friend in real life.
Fair enough. Let's agree to disagree. If it turns out that David Seaman was lying and not being honest in his reporting, I won't hesitate to come back here and admit I was wrong. Right now I have a completely different feeling about the issue. Time will tell.
You have to remember a new Sheriff is in town, and many of the people implicated in Pizzagate and the possibly bigger child trafficking scandal are sworn enemies to the new Sheriff.
Will it actually come to fruition? Probably not, but there is some hope with Trump in office now.
DHS is part of it. David Seaman needs to do his fucking homework. What a lazy ass money-grubber, coasting off his initial success in the pizzagate niche.
ACtually, if this breaks we must use it to show the public the wider story, which they (the state) will try to keep hidden. IN other words the Sudasky Penn State Method - where he was arrested but the powerful ring and people he worked with were kept hidden from the public.
Thanks. That's a minimal entry in the pedo-protector rank and file for Rivero, but yeah, he's offering nothing at all to account for any of this evidence? Lame.
Pence... meh. I really hate politics. What a bunch of pathetic, stupid, superstitious nonsense it all is. Look what it does to everyone who gets into it. Even the fans in the stands get sucked into nonsense and waste their lives getting excited over stuff they can't even control. It's as much of a diversion as sports.
Anyway, that was a decade ago for Pence, but somehow I'm not finding that comforting.
Hey guys, I'm a retard with a pop culture filled brain. I like to use insults I don't even understand the definition of, because everyone on the tv box is doing it.
This is the same Homeland Security that tried to hack into the Georgia state election system this is the same Homeland Security that had a booth set up for participants to check in at the Sandy Hook school shooting this is the same Homeland Security that molests people at the airports....🤔🤔🤔
How in the hell is the media gonna explain its lockstep "debunked fake news" mantra about Pizzagate if it ends up a huge proven scandal with arrests? Save their posts about fake debunked news before the scrubbing begins. I don't see how they survive as news sources after that.
I'd say the biggest "PEDOGATE IS FAKE" media pundits are pedos themselves. That's all. There's literally zero other possible excuse for not taking something so horrific and that has such enormous data behind it (from all around the world) to dismiss it. Look at the BBC covering up for Seville all those years. They don't deserve to survive anything, Their silence emboldens the pedos and creates more victims.
They'll handle it the same way they handled being exposed as sociopathic liars after telling the country Clinton couldn't lose and Trump was a joke for a whole year... By which I mean, they'll go down in flames and more and more people will wake up to the fact that they've been corralled into a fictional world view for their whole lives.
The establishment news is also part of that inner circle. They are the very ones that would take damage since it would come out they've been covering all along.
Great question. My guess is that they don't survive as news sources. In the internet age, legacy media is quickly going the way of the phone book. This breaking will only accelerate that.
And yet I still annually find one on my porch, although it's smaller and smaller with each passing year. I wonder when the dumb fuck publishers will realize it's a bad idea. Probably when the dumb fuck advertisers also realize it's a bad idea.
We have a version of fascist rule now: government controlling the corporations and corporations controlling the government, with the people as suckers to be exploited and duped. The corporate media has been sent out to protect the sadistic pedophiles in the government and to attack the people trying to stop them. Trump was elected because he promised to return power to the people, who will not tolerate this evil if it is exposed.
You think the situation is improved by embracing fascism, which is totalitarian in nature and doesn't even care about the masses when elections are being held? America is not supposed to be ruled by democracy. It is supposed to be a Republic that respects state and individual liberty and that balances democracy with systemic checks. The psychopaths who are always scheming to control everything should be limited in their power, which is not the case in fascist governments.
Jews have taken over our system and the only cure is fascism. Marxist brainwashing has controlled the people and we must take this country back by force. Were you at the woman's march today like a good little goy?
NO... Sheeple are TOO Dumb to rule themselves.. OUR Job is to SLAP the Sheeple around and WAKE them up. It is happening. I believe it will be escalated during a Trump administration.
Within Homeland Security or fill in the blank letter agency, you're going to have some monsters doing the bidding of bad peolpe, and you're going to have some good guys that know right from wrong.
It comes from the top down, and hopefully Trump and the military intel know there's something there. The guys getting paychecks at Homeland Security will now have someone new to answer to, as Obama is playing golf in Hawaii.
David Seaman on Twitter: "I spoke to someone from Homeland Security last night. Pizzagate is not debunked, and is being actively investigated. Cheers! t.co/Rk9f4qzZr9"
nld1960 ago
David, can HLS be trusted, are they telling you this, just to appease you. I don't trust any of them, including Trump. Remember, he was also a client on the Lolita Express and made many comments about how great a guy Epstein is.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
rawr
you make-a me oh so mad
you baddie bad you
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Up yours, nigger.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
As much as it hurts to say it, that's probably true. We can't, shouldn't, and won't wait forever, but we do have to wait at least a bit for the official wheels to grind -- assuming they are going to.
Meanwhile, full speed ahead on our own investigations and discussions. Waiting does not mean doing nothing.
sunajAeon ago
He's a Jew? Zionist? yeah it makes all the difference in the world, Zionist Jews are the group that has taken control of our State Department and gov in general
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Tell that to him. I think it's odd to flash around the Star of David.
Truthseeker3000 ago
Homeland security is apparently investigating yet evidence keeps being rapidly removed and wiped off the internet. I don't buy it. Never trust these government agencies for what they say. Keep investigating and keep archiving and screenshotting everything.
Littlebird1 ago
I'm concerned they will just throw Podesta and Alefantis and a couple of other small fries under the bus and leave the bigger stuff alone.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
I'm not sure they could pull off a limited back-pedal like that, at this point. The wall of denial has been ferocious and absolute. "None of it was true." Trying to walk back from that... I'd like to see them try it.
You don't just screw a pooch -- or a child -- a little bit. It's a did or didn't thing.
pig_lifter ago
Sorry but Homeland Secruity. Isn't this the job for FBI and DC Police? since when does Homeland Security deem pizzagate a terror threat?
Fatsack ago
yup, typical jewish behavior
Fatsack ago
DHS is part of it. You guys are really really bad researchers... and really really gullible if you believe the agency created to push the police state on us after 9/11 has your interest in mind... so fucking retarded.
Fatsack ago
DHS is part of it, are you people not actually doing your research? WTF? Look up 'George Webb' on youtube.
Fatsack ago
DHS IS PART OF IT. DAVID SEAMAN IS EITHER A SHILL OR AN IDIOT.
Htaed ago
dhs is going to come out a month later with bullshit and say it has now been debunked. Bets anyone?
Htaed ago
DHS? LOLOLOL
Forgetmenot ago
thank you CTR! You make it so easy to identify who is exposing the pedofiles! The more you try to discredit this journalist the more we know he is effective at exposing the truth! Good job guys thank you for the encouragement and making it so easy....lol
HashTagFU ago
So this guy worked for one of the most obvious propaganda machines (and that's saying a lot in this day and age) and we're supposed to buy that he is now 100% on the straight and narrow? Fuck that, he's a shill clearly. Semen wants my money? Hahahahahahaha, fuck off. Go jerk it and sell your namesake.
DeathToMasons ago
This is good news.
flyingcuttlefish ago
Here's all you need to know about Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan -
They looted the country dry.
They appointed their own to cabinet positions to change law to allow it (mortgage backed securities, 300% interest loans, etc. etc.)
They paid themselves back for doing it with tax dollars (TARP)
The amount TARP gave them could have paid off all the mortgages in country, all the credit card debt of every American, all the student loans, all the debts people carry.
People are going to for-profit-prisons for parking ticket debts.
**Rumor mill: **the reason Trump is chummy suddenly with Goldman Sachs is because of a loan arrangement on his properties. He holds the debts personally.
RexAxisMundi ago
Seriously, fuck that guy. What a sell out shill he turned out to be.
redditsuckz ago
They are friendly because THEY ARE ALL FRIENDS...dont be so naive.
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump said. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” - Donald Trump
http://i.imgur.com/adtvoQd.jpg
DriftingDevoid ago
Thanks for posting. I am still a little naive maybe, do you have other sources than this meme?
redditsuckz ago
Trump had 14 contact numbers in Epsteins black book;
http://i.imgur.com/5WWgrxb.jpg
The Friendship Between Trump And A Billionaire Pedophile That Nobody Wants To Talk About
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Similarly, a 2003 Vanity Fair profile of Epstein named Trump as one of the “businessmen who dine with him at his home,” and several other articles have pegged Trump and Epstein as friends.
And when FBI investigators looked through Epstein’s private address book, they found 14 different phone numbers for Trump, including numbers for his security guard and houseman. Epstein also had numbers for Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his ex-wife Ivana.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/the-friendship-between-trump-and-a-billionaire-pedophile-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about/
http://archive.is/sxoOu
He also defends George Soros;
Trump Defended George Soros During 2011 Tea Party Rally: ‘Leave Him Alone’
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-defended-george-soros-during-2011-tea-party-rally-leave-him-alone/
http://archive.is/FA4rc
DriftingDevoid ago
I'm out of upvotes, but thank you for your effort.
TRUTHWARRIOR ago
You people are hating on this patriot. Not cool. This takes brass balls. Granted a post like this is useless but lets feed him good energy not bad.
Azzipdoe ago
"Granted a post like this is useless..."
Why feed something that's useless? How dull are you?
TRUTHWARRIOR ago
Im referring to his post. Its basically rumor.
PresudentMcCheese ago
How about your smug ass? Have fun, T. I.
PresudentMcCheese ago
He's lying to make money. You deserve to lose it if you get fooled by him.
OrwellKnew ago
David's twitter has pictures of him enjoying a Padron stogie sipping a Moscow Mule accompanied by Cassandra Fairbanks and the Pettibone sisters
VieBleu ago
did he go to the Deploraball?
OrwellKnew ago
Brittney Pettibone offered him a ticket but he turned it down.
VieBleu ago
uh yeah, and the comnment says he was accompanied by the Pettibone sisters while having a cigar and drink- so he must have changed his mind, right?
OrwellKnew ago
Also, maybe he didn't want it to be known he was going for security purposes...he's been receiving threats
OrwellKnew ago
Maybe they met up afterwards? I really don't have all the facts on that one. Could be he changed his mind. Hell I wouldn't turn that offer down
DL4L ago
I see your point and feel your frustration. I think I'm maybe looking at it from the perspective of the unconvinced or skeptics that will come here for information. We can revel in our own certainty and the righteousness of our cause but that doesn't bring people over to our side. It turns people away. The game is to leverage this momentum and exposure to disrupt the mainstream narrative, draw attention and credibility to this issue. As I see it anyhow. Ultimately to help drive enough pressure to force an official and closely watched investigation. How many blatant and far more 'proven' pedophile scandals have come and gone without uproar over the last 30 years. It's not for a lack of information that people stay in the dark. So whether we are right or wrong, justified or not, the more 'fuck colbert' direction we go in the more we risk alienating people. That doesn't mean I disagree with your point. But we already know we're right. It's all those that don't I'm most concerned with reaching. Which brings me to: if anyone has any basic video editing skills please message me if you'd be willing to consider helping me with an idea. Thanks
freeagent37 ago
Awesome!
GhostOfSwartz ago
Of course. https://www.google.com/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/peter-thiel-wants-to-inject-himself-with-young-peoples-blood/amp?client=ms-android-verizon
Pizza-related-sap ago
"Spider eggs hatchin' in their brains!!!"
DriftingDevoid ago
[message deleted] I confused Colbert for Corbett Report. Sorry
VieBleu ago
what's the deal with Chomsky?
FriesischShipping ago
Think of it like this: does he have a straight forward easy to understand message? If not, probably a shill.
DriftingDevoid ago
FUCK sorry I was totally wrong. I was thinking this was about Corbett Report. Sorry for my inaccuracy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEDf7OkRCxk
VieBleu ago
lol its okay I was just surprised- I've only ever heard him be right on in his criticisms of the US war machine and other things. Glad to know at least ONE thing is still good and what I thought it was. .
flyingcuttlefish ago
this thought on the vid was sent to me by a west coast person -
"Homeland Security was designed on the format and purpose of the Phoenix Program in Vietnam. The Phoenix Program and other programs (Project Popeye - weather modification) in Vietnam were set up there to take over the US with. The Phoenix program was set up to destroy the civilian support for the Vietcong... ha ha ha like civilian support for the true patriots and resistant movement if it happened in the US... well organized resistance is not going to happen. The trained military veterans would be the most organized and able group in the US to fight this off and save the country, but they are so old and sick (Vietnam Agent Orange), or young and sicker (DU) that it will not happen.
Trump will just be another part of the animal machine that eats America alive. He is surrounded by Goldman Sachs fucks in his cabinet. So Trump will create jobs, hire the unemployed, borrow $billions from Goldman Sachs to build new infrastructure (like they are doing in Berkeley), and then they will wire up and weaponize the entire electrical grid in the US and we will be captives and controlled 100% by the EMF algorithms they are already transmitting all over Calif. "
Freemasonsrus ago
I'll point you to this example. Trump went through three campaign managers along his path to victory. He said "you're fired" to both Corey and Manafort and ended up with Conway who brought the victory home. Don't underestimate his drive towards his agenda, and when he sees someone trying to usurp that he will get rid of them. I'd also point out that you need "insiders" to take down establishment people. Remember he has also surrounded himself with Generals, for a reason.
Sharipie ago
Geez! Can't we have just a couple days of being hopeful for the future?
flyingcuttlefish ago
we could be if Trump would quit meeting with Kissinger and appointing Sachs crooks. But-t-t if Hillary were in we wouldn't be here... she would have started nuke war before today.
Blacksmith21 ago
If we make it through tonight, we'll be golden. Remember, its 1930 on the east coast. The balls are about to fire up. Every Dem has left town by now. If shit were gonna go down, tonight would be the night. I pray I'm wrong.
victuruslibertas ago
I am going to try to explain something to this group and I know this to be true because a lot of my subs on YT have told me. People are intimidated to post anything in this group because how viciously they get attacked. Maybe it shills doing it but I have witnessed it myself. If you want sincere people to help with the investigation, please refrain from belittling people or the group will dwindle and that would be a fucking shame cause there's good work being done here.
witch_doctor1 ago
That's not realistic on the web...even if the good guys refrain from attacking people, the bad guys won't. You would be better off telling your friends to have thick skin and to remember that in the end, they are just reading words on a screen....don't let it affect you or your message.
bopper ago
What happened to all the Seaman haters? And why isn't anybody griping about no proof? Just wondering.
phlux ago
He was supposed to have an interview?? When was that?
sunnydaylemons ago
do upyou mean daily show with trevor noah
allconnected ago
THis video on another thread is from 30 years ago. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/comments/1580363. Law enforcement didn't bust it up then, didn't bust it up in the Franklin Scandal, see in the Sudusky scandal they helped cover up the wider child sex ring.
Bottom Line be skeptical of hell coming from DHS etc. If it does you can bet it will be in the Sudesky Penn State style. - limited to a few players while the bigger more powerful ring is kept hidden and protected
phlux ago
didnt alefantis state that he is friends with him and that they did this to make money off the shirts, didnt he?
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Who is friends with whom? What shirts?
wat
phlux ago
The account that claimed to be alefantis came here and posted that he was in cahoots with d_seaman and that they were making money off the pizzagate shirts as a joke and whatnot....
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Sounds legit.
Mommyplayer571 ago
Maybe the use of gmail and selling state secrets won't cover HRC from prosecution. The server and the 640K emails cover more than the CF. And the evil goes a lot worse than HRC. Btw did anyone else notice when Trump left the innaguration stand that he may have snubbed the Clintons?
e-traiu ago
And Cruealla Deville.
FriesischShipping ago
colberra da shill
IlluminatiKing ago
If this breaks out, media is dead. Somehow they will still lie their asses off, how they reported the report of possible fake news or something stupid like that.
B3nd3r ago
Fuck, I really hope he's telling the truth.
DL4L ago
I agree he was smug in his coverage of this issue, but I think we should be careful about distinguishing between people willfully/knowingly running cover and those that are experiencing cognitive dissonance as they face something that threatens their entire worldview. I know. Tell that to the kids counting on this story growing legs... But not everyone who is not with us is against us. I have many people in my life who now accept two planes didn't knock down three buildings that were far more smug than Colbert when I first broached the issue. Whenever I was contemptuous of another's inability to see what I saw, it cost me the relationship and an opportunity to bring them over. We are in a war for hearts and minds, and our passion is so powerful we should guard our contempt for others carefully. But I don't know Colbert, he could be shill #1 for all I know... just something to consider.
Sui_Juris ago
Yes, some deserve jail, others deserve scorn and shunning. Cobert, etc., deserve scorn and shunning. When the public gives you a big platform to express, you have a duty to be responsible with it. It's not like there haven't been multiple instances of pedo rings involving high-ranking government officials.
They could have kept their mouths shut, but instead they stuck their feet in them.
Actions have consequences. Boycotts and ridicule will encourage responsible behavior going forward.
MAGABoomer ago
No...excuse. With a platform as large as what Colbert has he has the DUTY to do due diligence before dismissing something and making fun of it. He's either a pedo himself (most of the LOLers are) or he's a piss poor journalist. I grant him no quarter and zero excuses.
Splinterinyourmind ago
Pretty sure everyone in entertainment is, at least to some degree, aware of the game.
putneg ago
he did that kind of shit before. I remember the Anita Sarkeesian interview
This wasn't him not knowing. It's hit pieces.
superesper ago
Well, he did air propaganda segments written by the Clinton Global Initiative on his show: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46703
HashTagFU ago
CIA is pretty versed in stealth wars. Homeland Security being the relatively new guy on the block, probably not so much. The sad thing is neither of these faceless, nameless entities are battling over good vs evil. They are simply battling over a bigger slice of the budget.
Markb63 ago
Right good call he is a spinless puppet
B3nder ago
Sooo, 4,600 $ from patreon a month(!) for some videos. Not bad.
sunajAeon ago
Exactly, from HP, he hasn't done anything except interject himself and his personal drama upon the Pizzagate investigation-ITS NOT ABOUT YOU SEAMANS-ITS ABOUT THE CHILDREN!
B3nd3r ago
Nice catch, evil twin.
rippingtheveil ago
stopthecoverup
cdglow ago
Maybe.
He has done a good job spreading awareness, I'll give him that. I sincerely applaud his courage in being outspoken about this and making numerous videos where he calls out Podesta and company. That's a big personal risk, not just for his professional reputation (if this doesn't get exposed, he'll never have a mainstream career again), also for his wallet (calling somebody a pedophile repeatedly opens you up to big potential lawsuits), and even his life (we all know how many of certain peoples' enemies end up shooting themselves in the back of their head twice or whatever).
But is he actually reporting? Has he actually uncovered anything new about Pizzagate that's been verified or come true?
Maybe I'm wrong, but to me he seems to be making videos just about daily recapping what's publicly known about the scandal, calls Podesta a pedophile a few times, and uses that to rake in a ton of donations.
Not that he's not doing some good....but is he actively researching? Is he making verifiable true claims? I don't dislike the man: in fact I like some of his videos a lot. But I have to question everything here.
FriesischShipping ago
*ALLEGEDLY
dogeminho ago
We should keep a list of all the news outlets and people(with evidence) who denied pizza gate
carmencita ago
I feel sorry for you:(
birthdaysuit11 ago
All of you have been doing some hard breaking research; looking into the connections, finding new leads. As for Seaman, I'm dubious. He presents some truths but doesn't get into the details. I'm not saying he's a gate keeper but he did work for the Post.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Sounds like you're trying to equate the two so you can say anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. One things for sure, Seaman won't be censored for any Zionist speech if free speech on the internet goes down.
SpikyAube ago
He was literally saying the opposite of that. You seemed to think that Seaman being Jewish means he's a Zionist but it doesn't at all, and it is anti-semitic to make that assumption, because you're judging someone's opinions, beliefs, attitudes etc not on what they've said or how they've acted, but just on the basis of a particular category they happen to be in (i.e. Jewish). Well, he fits in a lot of other categories too, like people with brown hair, males, people who wear glasses, YouTubers, Americans, 30 year olds, Trump supporters, journalists, ex-Huffington Post contributors, etc etc. So why would you choose just the one category on which to judge what his attitudes and beliefs are? It's when people do that that it's racist, anti-semitic, ageist, sexist, whatever-ist, and it's disliked in general because it's incredibly unfair and also a dumb way of judging any person, as each person will fit into a diverse range of categories.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
He put out a pro-Israel video and you ask why do I assume he's a zionist? It's called being informed. But to many, that means being anti-Semitic.
One thing that I really dislike about Zionism is how dishonest the arguments for it are. And you're proving that to be true.
SpikyAube ago
Hang on, you think I'm arguing for Zionism?! Eh? No way. I didn't see Seaman's video where he puts across any Zionist views, so if that's the case then I was wrong and obviously you judged him on the basis of what he said and not just on his being Jewish. In which case I'm sorry. I do not equate anti-semitism with anti-zionism, anti-zionism is being against a political ideology and actions based on that ideology, and anti-semitism is being against Jewish people just because they were born Jewish.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
He did one or two videos recapping Pizzagate in the beginning. He hasn't broken anything, or even offered any particularly insightful commentary except doing videos how he was being persecuted for reporting on Pizzagate.
Fatsack ago
Typical Jew.
Newfind ago
Yeah it's all pretty general stuff. Ryan on the other hand really put together a salient hypothesis about Pegasus and we see where that got him.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Zionism has its own track record. And what is his proven track record besides coming out of the woodwork with Pizzagate and obviously trying to capitalize on it? And that is reason to believe someone? Fake news, here we come!
dookiehowzer ago
Time to smoke one for this good news
carmencita ago
Whoa! Those Jews! Like that little old lady that always drops a Christmas Card in my mail box and I drop all the appropriate cards in hers? Jews always do? That kind of talk really drags this sub down. It reeks of shilldom and racism.
Dauphin ago
I REALLY hope this is true! Trump's speech was amazing... I can only hope the light is shown on these cockroaches. There is no recourse for their crimes... they must be eradicated! A "new world order" indeed...
birthdaysuit11 ago
Neither do I.
kekistocrat ago
More and more, voat is turning into cuckville. A flood of liberal 'anti-racism' walking custards showed up (it seems) over the past month or so. It's interesting how many lines have been blurred, as well. I mean, there are so many different genres of people in here that it's hard for everyone to be on the same page 'cause a lot of 'em are on the J.Q. learning curve and currently in denial. It's a regular Cucksymphony...
CynicalLurker ago
The point of this board is to leave political believes aside and investigate as one, effective hivemind of people. This divisive bullshit is what keeps most people ignorant about the much bigger issues like pizzagate. I know banter and memeing is a lot of fun but if you want that stuff go back to >>/pol/
kekistocrat ago
To assume that one knows any reason why another posts a comment is absurd and shows that your intellect is waning. It is not divisive to point out patterns or truth. To be ignorant is a personal choice. It is called ignoring. Disregarding the truth even though it is available. Nescience is when the truth is unavailable. 'What keeps most people ignorant is exactly that mentality; a personal choice. I don't keep people ignorant. They do by not doing the research. Instead of labeling someone with the same bullshit claims and parroting what your masters say, why not try disproving some of the connections? You will find it is more difficult than you think and it also puts you in a category of people that are despised without any reason. If you haven't gotten to the Jewish Question then you haven't gone far enough and it shows your willingness to defeat yourself and your own research due to your own self defeat in an attempt to protect your own selfishness. Learn the Trivium and start to think critically. I don't hate the Jews. I'm against the ones who try to control others and bend their national laws to accomodate the Talmudic law. Kicked out of 109 countries for usury and other things. I love all people who don't wish to control others. Plain and simple.
CynicalLurker ago
Where did I assume to know the reason for your comment? I only pointed out that what you describe here as the "truth" is toxic to a "community" (for lack of a better word) like the one investigating pizzagate. The less divided we are about at this point meaningless issues like the prevalence of jews in high positions, the more effective we are at working toward our common goal: bringing the sick perverts to justice that make up a good percentile of the elite. The shit you wrote about jews may be right, but it is completely irrelevant to this investigation and you bringing it up here serves no purpuse except for mental masturbation on your part. So I'm parroting what my "masters" say because I don't want the community to be devided? Yeah that makes total sense. I love how you rant on about how I can't disprove what you said when I never even attempted to do so. You just completely missed my point and had to start this rant because you were triggered so badly.
kekistocrat ago
Some would argue with you; George Washington, Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Martin Luther (On the Jews and their Lies)...
I would contend that a lot of them are jews; Roy Cohn, Maria Abramovic (if the last name doesn't say it), Jeffrey Epstein...
see previous. 'You must be Jewsih, love your nails' -- Frank Zappa
Another argument defeating rebuttal from the visceral pillar of logic incarnate. In any debate, one should use logic to backup any claims made of which the claimant bears the onus of proof. But, I guess that makes total sense... Thanks for playing.
HashTagFU ago
Your username is an inherent lie. What else are you lying about?
CynicalLurker ago
And your comment is inherently meaningless. What else are you capable of?
HashTagFU ago
Pointing out that you named yourself a lurker and subsequently posted your thoughts, thereby contradicting your user name is my life's work. Are you saying it's meaningless?
reasonedandinformed ago
I am documenting the list of pizzagate deniers and propagators of actual "fake news": Facebook (manipulating results and counts, banning messages and users, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SBoAfyOapM http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=57894)), Twitter (manipulating results and counts, banning messages and users, shadowbanning, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtljUprhPXc)), Reddit (manipulating results and counts, banning messages and users, banning the entire domain - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/23/fearing-yet-another-witch-hunt-reddit-bans-pizzagate/?utm_term=.a760bc93fb95)), Youtube (manipulating results and counts, banning videos and users, http://voiceofpeopletoday.com/pizzagate-banned-from-youtube/)), Google (manipulating results and counts, page sliding real research results with higher hits in favor of the "fake news" narratives, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRiDPyOdCcs)), NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/technology/fact-check-this-pizzeria-is-not-a-child-trafficking-site.html)), Wapo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-fake-news-hurts-real-people/2016/11/25/d9ee0590-b0f9-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?utm_term=.b0b17888f452)), HuffPo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cbs-pizzagate-conspiracy_us_58803dfde4b00d44838d2576)), Megyn Kelly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZcM6LIOJb0)), Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/12/08/the-shocking-truth-about-pizzagate/kUpm1bqKFVwlVfF49bXDqI/story.html)), Buzzfeed (https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/fever-swamp-election)), Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory)), Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy)), the BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-38156985)), The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/18/meet-ben-swann-the-republican-pizzagate-truther-hosting-atlanta-s-cbs-nightly-news.html)), Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/cbs-imbecile-just-fanned-the-pizzagate-flames-for-no-re-1791333293)), Slate magazine (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/05/michael_flynn_jr_is_tweeting_about_how_debunked_pizzagate_is_a_legit_thing.html)), Media Matters (https://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/18/cbs-atlanta-affiliate-gives-credibility-debunked-pizzagate-conspiracy/215044)), The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/05/pizzagate-lie-what-it-says-about-society-real)), The Observer (http://observer.com/2016/12/pizzagate-recalls-the-debunked-child-sex-rings-of-the-80s-and-90s/)), The Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/11343/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-pizzagate-aaron-bandler)), Counter Current News (http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/11/pizzagate-conspiracy-theory-debunked/)), Miami Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article119065843.html)),
We are citizen investigators and document our claims. We should continue to build and document a summary list of all the "fake news" sites that falsely debunked and smeared the story without any investigation. Someone please archive all of these references.
phlux ago
I formatted this a bit for you, reasonedandinformed
Facebook (manipulating results and counts, banning messages and users,
AND State of the nation,
Twitter - manipulating results and counts, banning messages and users, shadowbanning,
Reddit (manipulating results and counts, banning messages and users, banning the entire domain,
Youtube - manipulating results and counts, banning videos and users,,
Google - manipulating results and counts, page sliding real research results with higher hits in favor of the "fake news" narratives,,
NYT,
Wapo,
HuffPo,
Megyn Kelly,
Boston Globe,
Buzzfeed,
Wikipedia,
Snopes,
BBC,
The Daily Beast,
Gizmodo,
Slate magazine,
Media Matters,
The Guardian,
The Observer,
The Daily Wire,
Counter Current News,
Miami Herald,
We are citizen investigators and document our claims. We should continue to build and document a summary list of all the "fake news" sites that falsely debunked and smeared the story without any investigation. Someone please archive all of these references.
jealoushe ago
please add CBC news...the Canadian public news corp who has frequently referred to pizzagate as fake news. I emailed them several times to look into to...and that was their response.
OrwellKnew ago
I once had this idea...as a response to the PropOrNot "fack checking" website. The idea was to call out the Mockingbird Media with a website MockOrNot listing the compromised parties which is pretty much all of the Mainsteam Media, even if it's just a wordpress blog
It seems you have already begun a nice compilation. You are free to use this idea :)
Forgetmenot ago
Great job!
banenya ago
Beautiful. Just copy / pasted to Word doc with all links. Save it, archive it, make copies everywhere. How can we get it on #Pizzagate Wiki? http://pizzagate.wiki/Main_Page
WorkSmarter ago
Nice list you got there. I couldn't agree with you more; these institutions are doing us a great injustice. Why not protest outside of their offices, and organize like minded people to stand with you. Is is because that would be too large a sacrifice? I personally think it would be. What does that say about us?
I am thankful to all that have worked, and continue to work, to bring this information to light. But i feel that it is time for more than just investigating. Many people agree that these companies are not operating in our best interest. It is time to fight these people with the tools we have. It is time to fight in the style they are accustomed. These groups have no trouble pointing the finger at competing news outlets that do not share their views. They call for boycotts and have forced advertisers to quit campaigns with opposing news outlets (fact).
I would like to see this list expanded to include the advertisers (funder's). And I would like to have the contact information for the advertisers added. Then we can begin a collaborated effort to both contact and boycott these funders that assist news agencies in confusing and dominating us. Companies that see no problems in supporting filth. We need to hold these companies responsible for their funding and make them think twice about who they support; as all of us need to do in these times.
Only then will we begin to have an effect! Money isn't the most important thing; it's the only thing to these kind. It's time to start hitting where it hurts.
unfuckitup ago
Well done you two!
reasonedandinformed ago
I discovered these are all hyperlinks, but I wanted to tweak to drop the commas. I will be posting as a separate post. Thanks.
reasonedandinformed ago
Thank you so much. The links got lost. I will maybe create a new post for this purpose with the proper formatting. Thanks!
AugustaJulia ago
Can you hear us now?
The_Kuru ago
Fake News Surge Pins D.C. Pizzeria As Home To Child-Trafficking : NPR
Interview with Alefantis consisted entirely of asking Alefantis to describe his investigation into who is being mean to him and making fake news about him. Not one mention of any red flag evidence against him. It will be easy to shut down that fake news operation if this all pans out.
ThePuppetShow ago
Great post!
quantokitty ago
WOO HOO!!!! Best news I've heard in about 8 years if true. Please make it be true ...
allconnected ago
Given how little those charged with investigating, investigate - I wouldn't hold my breath.
8pinkstars ago
In a perfect world the evil Clintons would be arrested as they are leaving the Inauguration!!
FriesischShipping ago
As they are led away, " Tell him it was just business."
Azzipdoe ago
It's too bad seaman is a fake piece of shit. The average joe on here has done 500x more investigating then that rat.
Ps.. Make sure you donate to me for saying the word pizzagate! Don't investigate it anymore! The FBI is, you can trust them!
Scirel ago
No joke, man. I stopped following the dude. No original work, not even any deep analysis. Just droning on about how Pizzagate is "real" (whatever that means), and how John Podesta is "sick" (which isn't a crime), how bona fide a journalist he is (because he wrote for free for Huffpo), etc., etc. And now he's going on about some secret sources he has.
I'm starting to wonder whether the guy is some sort of plant.
witch_doctor1 ago
Yeah right....if you were Southern Baptist, you would be aware that the Jews are God's chosen people, because Southern Baptists read the Bible...whatever dude...
HashTagFU ago
If you were God and could make any people you wanted, why would you make a chosen people? It's so fucking stupid it hurts my head.
The bible is a bunch of fairy tales and the fact that there are plenty of jews that truly believe this bullshit is unbelievable to me.
witch_doctor1 ago
Well, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. As far as why God has a chosen people, it is because of his promise to Abraham and nothing else.
HashTagFU ago
How about God promises to do away with pain for a start? How about that for a promise? If you believe the fairy tales of the bible and you're only one of many, I laugh at the prospects of the human race.
witch_doctor1 ago
Nah..not kosher...Southern Baptist here...
SecureYourSeats ago
And Hillary Clinton just ran out of time for a pardon from Obama.
witch_doctor1 ago
Really? The blanket anti-semitism thing is so old....please be a better person than that.
witch_doctor1 ago
Are you a lurker on 4chan?
wecanhelp ago
I've flaired this as IMPORTANT because if this is true and the investigation is not rigged, that's a critical development in the Pizzagate story.
Azzipdoe ago
So this gets flagged as important, with no credible sources?.. Just heresay from somebody that literally hasn't contributed even the smallest bit of info. His lack of new leads and lack of saying anything worthy should be your first clue. Asking for donations should be your second. He hurts pizzagate more then he helps it. He's BARELY even a journalist to begin with. loser got fired and now he's trying to cash in on this with his fake ass empathy. Beyond obvious, blows my mind people are falling for it.
So he gets flagged as important... Yet shit that ACTUALLY IS IMPORTANT, gets deleted. Makes sense.
HashTagFU ago
What did he get fired from?
Bunkie ago
He got fired from HuffPo for writing about Killary's health. Now that I think about it he really hasn't brought anything new to the table re: PG. I just liked his righteous indignation at supposedly eithical and moral people doing and saying NOTHING that I didn't see him for what he is. I had a weird sense about him even entertaining going on the Daily Show. If it had aired it would have been so chopped and screwed and made him look like an idiot, no question. And set the whole effort back a ways. Man, this is total bullshit. We're supposed to believe that as of last night (when the tweet went out), while Homeland Security was still being headed by Jeh Johnson, that someone at Deploraball who claims they work there- oh man, forget it. Homeland Security is the biggest Stasi/police state/death camp/freak show on the planet. This is right up their alley. Wouldn't surprise me one iota if they warehouse kids in those suddenly closed Walmarts in Texas ferchrissakes.
wecanhelp ago
I take responsibility for this flair, you can be absolutely right, but David Seaman's activity so far doesn't seem to hurt Pizzagate. The first video I saw about Pizzagate was his, and I'm not alone with that, he's one of the most prominent public faces out there supporting the fight against Pizzagate. He may not investigate, but he sure publicizes, risking his own money and safety in the process. He might just want to cash in on this, there's nothing that proves the opposite. I flaired this as important adding "if this is true and the investigation is not rigged". Although to be honest, if it turns out to be a hoax, then it is also important because then we will find out that you are right and David Seaman is not to be trusted. We win something either way.
Azzipdoe ago
Fair enough. Just so sick of seeing David Seaman articles everywhere. Not fond of him AT ALL. Can see right thru his bs. George Webb, if anyone, should be the one getting the attention.. Somebody that investigates, puts himself out there, and doesn't ask for money... Not saying I fully trust him or anyone else either though.
0fsgivin ago
Im fine with people asking for donations to help support them while doing invenstigations...shit I want intelligent hard working people investigating pizza gate.
Alex jones has sold brain pills on infowars...That is problematic for me. He's like the charlatan in World War Z.
But he was the first guy to get video of Bohemian Grove If I remember correctly...So he's made some contributions to the public.
HashTagFU ago
So am I. I'm also fine not giving them a fucking cent. lol.
redditsuckz ago
Where do you people come from?...60 votes in under 45 minutes?....11 upvotes for top coment in under 20 minutes?...What group keeps pushing this David Seaman?
Nothing will be done by this new administration....nothing...
Vice President Mike Pence good Friends with child rapist Dennis Hastert?
http://i.imgur.com/Q9alSfD.jpg
sunajAeon ago
I agree-this whole Seaman thing is ridiculous-he's been on his soapbox for weeks, not about Pizzagate BUT HIS PERSONAL PROBLEMS, NOTHING WHICH HE SHOULDN'T HAVE understood when he started becoming a visible reporter
ConcernedParent2 ago
I agree. I would love nothing more than for Trump to get rid of these sick fucks, but there is too much evidence suggesting he won't.
Riva ago
that's how he got on the ticket. or the shortlist and trump threw a dart and got him by accident.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
Do you have a source for Pence and Hastert being close friends, besides a user comment on reddit? I don't doubt it. I just want to document the connection if possible.
redditsuckz ago
Here he is defending him in 2006;
Pence defends Speaker Hastert
http://www.wthr.com/article/pence-defends-speaker-hastert
http://archive.is/h0NaE
Welsh Outraged at Mike Pence Support for Hastert
http://archive.is/HD7z0
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
Thanks! So it looks like Pence is down with the pedo ring, or at the very least, he is extremely ignorant and a terrible judge of character. I'm betting on the former.
AgainstTheNWO ago
We will see in next couple of weeks.
birthdaysuit11 ago
Nothing will happen, the RNC is also involved. For crying out loud they helped to orchestrate 9/11. WTC7, fell due to fires at freefall speed into the greatest path of resistance.
senpaithatignoresyou ago
The more they try to control something, the more they are controlled by it. They have spent the last 20 years trying to control the internet, and now hackers keep exposing their secrets.
I suspect peter thiel is involved somehow. There seems to be a connection between podesta and the gawker hit piece on thiel. As to why the democrats wanted to attack thiel, i have not found a good reason yet.
HashTagFU ago
The same reason democrats attack conservative blacks. He's gay and conservative. That's a huge threat to the identity politics the democrats depend on to get elected. If all of the oppresed special snowflakes (LBQT, blacks, feminists, etc) realize they're really not, the Democrats are fucked.
GhostOfSwartz ago
I'm suspicious of him since I learned of him and the young blood thing.
Bunkie ago
Was thinking the exact same thing. Also thinking, "Home F-ing Land Security?!" Is that a joke or what? Now I'm suspicious of David Seaman. He might have gotten so pissed about getting fired for writing about Killary's health that he trashed his whole MSM career to become a gatekeeper. Hmph. This whole thing stinks to me. Jeh Johnson is actively investigating this. Ok. I call bullshit on David Seaman. And Peter Thiel is just gross for transfusing himself with kids' blood, I don't care if they're still alive and not in cages and he lets them go home with a cookie after donating a pint. Which I seriously doubt, by the way. Ick.
B3nd3r ago
Can you give me a link to that? I haven't heard of it yet. Thanks.
GhostOfSwartz ago
Sorry it took so long. Glued to the TV today due to inaguration ;)
DriftingDevoid ago
So.... where's the link? Maybe I looked over it.
GhostOfSwartz ago
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/peter-thiel-wants-to-inject-himself-with-young-peoples-blood
GhostOfSwartz ago
Hmm. Must have gotten deleted. Google Peter thiel blood of youth
reasonedandinformed ago
I hope this does not tip Obama off to pardon Hillary at this point. He has shown no conscience in who he has pardoned and commuted up to this point...and he has shown his communist card in recent days, releasing the Communist, pro-Castro terrorist/murderer Oscar Lopez-Rivera. There is nothing that he is unwilling to do that is overtly wrong. I pray that Trump is safe today.
FriesischShipping ago
Why he would pardon Chelsea makes zero fucking sense unless somehow you need to explain why you have Julian Assange already in custody.
reasonedandinformed ago
LOL...my first thought given Clinton corruption was Chelsea Clinton. I still refer to the army leaker as Bradley Manning or Private Manning. This whole gender fluidity thing will result in adults self identifying as children and then justifying their pedo predelictions by saying that it involves consenting acts between children.
FriesischShipping ago
LOL, sorry, let's call him Bradley. That whole story never made sense. What a bad script. An honest person, who believes in truth and exposure, clearly understands that they will be caught and imprisoned for life or executed...but somehow also thinks he always wanted to be a tranny.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Why would anybody believe this? The fact that the guy is trying to make a name/career for himself is hardly in question. Is this normal journalistic behavior, to quote from unseen sources so much? Or is it just exploiting people's confirmation bias? I see he changed his avatar from the golden Star of David.
Forgetmenot ago
You sound like you are trying to discredit a person who even list his job for exposing the truth. His track record has earned him my respect. You on the other hand, who are you trying to discredit a reputable source. What is your track record? Why should anyone believe you? In fact why are you in this thread ?
SlackeryTurnBull ago
You're sad. If you so willing to believe anything that you're told, why don't you just believe what the msm says?
Pontius_Pilate ago
David Seaman already has a career and history as a journalist. He's been featured multiple times on the Joe Rogan Experience (Google It), and you don't get on that show for being a nobody who lacks a name or career. A better question is: why wouldn't people believe it? And what's the ulterior motive of posters pretending Seaman hasn't been a reputable journalist for some time?
Seriously. It only takes a brief google search to see Seaman isn't some random dude profiting off Pizzagate. Please bare this information in mind, for those reading into this thread and haven't heard of Seaman until Pizzagate. He's been around.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Being part of the msm makes him credible? And just because Joe Rogan has his own radio show doesn't make him credible either. Most people who have a platform are disinformation shills, so yeah, the resume doesn't do much for me.
birthdaysuit11 ago
Exactly, David seems like a gatekeeper and a very good one at that.
witch_doctor1 ago
The new "normal" journalistic behavior is why our home is now at voat, since we were banned at Reddit. So no this is not normal journalistic behavior, because all of the normal journalists are screaming fake news on orders from TPTB.....have you been following pizzagate at all?
SlackeryTurnBull ago
I've followed it enough to know that they've started scrubbing Pizzagate from the web, most likely using "fake news" as the excuse to censor. Wonder how Seaman's phantom sources might play into all that?
If Pizzagate is considered "fake news", don't those who believe in it have a duty to avoid falling into that trap? Shouldn't we require more than someone's word that something is true?
witch_doctor1 ago
Fair enough...but this was not intended by Seaman to be confirmation of anything. To me, it was more of a morale booster for the citizen investigators that have been under attack.
Let's play what do we actually know. 1) David Seaman is one of the few public figures screaming pizzagate from the roof tops.
2) There are white hats in the govt. on our side (FBI anon).
With those two facts in mind, is it so outlandish that one of the white hats might have confided in him anonymously?
newworldahead ago
I believe David Seaman is telling the truth. Yes it is normal to quote from unseen source. For security purposes, journalists cannot always provide their sources. Just think of Wikileaks, they don't provide their sources, but what they leak has always been proven true.
As for David Seaman, it's anybody's guess. I believe him, others may not. Only time will tell.
Birdzeyeview ago
he is not a journalist he just claims to be one.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Talk is cheap.
newworldahead ago
Eh, this is wrong. You don't need any paper to "proove" that you are a journalist. If you are doing journalism, you are a journalist.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Wikileaks had to authenticate those emails.
And I can see quoting from secret sources as in a supplementary way, but to make it the crux of their reporting is just retarded. It really reeks of someone making things up. This guy is making youtube videos from his living room. And he has secret insider government sources? Nah, let's not question that.
HashTagFU ago
You I like. Don't forget (((Seaman))) or is it (((Semen)))?
newworldahead ago
Sure, it is a possibility. And the fact that you are questionning this is perfectly ok. However I don't understand why it would be so absurd that a guy making videos from his living room could have insider government sources. What is the logic here? Steve Pieczenik gave interviews recently where he appears to be in his living room. So what?
Anyway I think he is telling the truth, but I could be wrong.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
And I take what Steve Pieczenik says and anybody like him with a grain of salt. If it proves true, great. But there are disinfo agents working and many of them are featured on Alex Jones. I do think Seaman is trying to position himself at that level in the Alt-media. Like the new Alex Jones or Paul Joseph Watson. He should break into Bohemian Grove and film if it he wants to do that.
tehthu ago
You do realize he was a paid journalist for huffington post for a number of years? He's not just some dude in his living room.
Do your own homework. Seaman has been a galvanizing force this whole time and received the brunt of slings and arrows for carrying this torch.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
And... he was fired. He seems rather desperate and crazed to get another job again. Not sure this is going to do it for him.
Since when was cheerleading a point of honor in the alt-Media? We already have Alex Jones, and most everyone with any sense knows he's not to be trusted.
Forgetmenot ago
I think slackery is a shill is there a way to report this?
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Maybe you're the shill and trying to silence one of the few voices of dissent (sanity)? Which one seems more likely?
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Skepticism is not the biggest troll tactic that is being used right now. Upvoting possible fake news is, creating a fake consensus that weak-minded people fall for. I'm trying to save Pizzagate from becoming a joke. It might be too late.
tehthu ago
Yea... he was fired when he wrote about Hillarys health and ate a gigantic red pill. Wtf is your point in this?
Let's say for the sake of argument he is only doing this for a paycheck (when there are far simpler topics to tackle that doesn't draw deep state heat rounds), does his work by contribute towards the ultimate SHARED goal of justice? The more I read from you, the more I sense that justice is not your underlying intent, but that's my personal perspective.
Do you think this is the path of least resistance for him?
SlackeryTurnBull ago
You do know that the conspiracy community is seeded with disinformation agents? It's a known tactic. To not know that is naivety at its worst. No one is better or more trustworthy than what they show themselves to be. You don't just believe Alex Jones because you like to think you'd be his friend in real life.
tehthu ago
Reading your reply.. interpreted as: you're too stupid to see the truth. Trust my disinformation instead.
Gtfo
SlackeryTurnBull ago
And what disinformation is that?
I think this is the most bullshit comment I've ever seen. Where the fuck did I say "You're too stupid to see the truth"?
Oh wait, shills don't deal with specifics or facts to back up their moronic statements. They just think people will believe them without question.
h2d ago
Dude is a troll. Don't waste your time anymore it's clear he has ulterior motives after looking over his post history.
newworldahead ago
Fair enough. Let's agree to disagree. If it turns out that David Seaman was lying and not being honest in his reporting, I won't hesitate to come back here and admit I was wrong. Right now I have a completely different feeling about the issue. Time will tell.
pizzaequalspedo ago
You have to remember a new Sheriff is in town, and many of the people implicated in Pizzagate and the possibly bigger child trafficking scandal are sworn enemies to the new Sheriff.
Will it actually come to fruition? Probably not, but there is some hope with Trump in office now.
Time will tell.
pizzaequalspedo ago
If this breaks, and the truth comes out...... We must never forget who lined up to support the pedophiles...
Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, Google, NYT, Wapo, Huffpo, Megyn Kelly, Boston Globe, and on and on.......
Fatsack ago
DHS is part of it. David Seaman needs to do his fucking homework. What a lazy ass money-grubber, coasting off his initial success in the pizzagate niche.
Phenomenonanon ago
Gizmodo. Or maybe better who actually ran stories and deduct the rest.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
All of these are already implicated in fake news/propaganda bullshit, pedophiles or no.
olive611 ago
When* this breaks...
allconnected ago
ACtually, if this breaks we must use it to show the public the wider story, which they (the state) will try to keep hidden. IN other words the Sudasky Penn State Method - where he was arrested but the powerful ring and people he worked with were kept hidden from the public.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
"Sandusky"
but yeah
Orangutan ago
CBS and Stephen Colbert, The Pope, Michael Rivero, Alex Jones, Mike Pence, etc.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Wait, Rivero and Pence helped cover for the pedos?
Orangutan ago
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/content/pizzeria-not-child-trafficking-site#axzz4QnHBCN6L
http://www.wthr.com/article/pence-expresses-support-for-speaker-hastert
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Thanks. That's a minimal entry in the pedo-protector rank and file for Rivero, but yeah, he's offering nothing at all to account for any of this evidence? Lame.
Pence... meh. I really hate politics. What a bunch of pathetic, stupid, superstitious nonsense it all is. Look what it does to everyone who gets into it. Even the fans in the stands get sucked into nonsense and waste their lives getting excited over stuff they can't even control. It's as much of a diversion as sports.
Anyway, that was a decade ago for Pence, but somehow I'm not finding that comforting.
kneo24 ago
Don't forget that hack Graham Ledger over at OAN.
Gorillion ago
There's so fucking many of them. We're going to need a really long wall to line them up against...hang on a second....!!1!!!
PresudentMcCheese ago
Fucking fascist. No one will have to "suicide" you. Your mentally ill ass will take care of itself. Heard any voices?
How about now? Lol
Fatsack ago
Hey guys, I'm a retard with a pop culture filled brain. I like to use insults I don't even understand the definition of, because everyone on the tv box is doing it.
PresudentMcCheese ago
Enjoy being a T. I. Stupid fucks.
salinaslayer ago
No need for that, the prison population isn't exactly nice to pedos in general, that's enough punishment
CWenstra ago
Well played!
HashTagFU ago
Reference to the Trump wall I presume? Good one.
ALDO_NOVA ago
Gitmo Bay has some vacancies :)
alliecapone ago
Amen!!
Annon365 ago
Nice!
pizzaequalspedo ago
Hot diggity
TRUTHWARRIOR ago
This is the same Homeland Security that tried to hack into the Georgia state election system this is the same Homeland Security that had a booth set up for participants to check in at the Sandy Hook school shooting this is the same Homeland Security that molests people at the airports....🤔🤔🤔
Forgetmenot ago
Very good point it might be similar to when D.C. Police claimed they investigated comet ping pong and that was debunked. Hmmmmn
tehthu ago
Yes, but under new, non-compromised leadership.
phlux ago
maybe they are investigating who they need to protect from exposure
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
The same Homeland Security that just hijacked our electoral process...
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/01/08/this-is-a-coup-the-homeland-security-takeover-of-us-elections/
TRUTHWARRIOR ago
Yes i see that easily coming. Glad word is getting out....
senpaithatignoresyou ago
Homeland security was not behind fast and the furious, that was the ATF.
TRUTHWARRIOR ago
Oh yeah my bad...will edit. The same homeland security that molests people at the airport!!!!
cantsleepawink ago
Yes, watch out for 'investigations' that lead nowhere. We know all about that in the UK.
concernedaboutitall ago
Please let this be true. Praying for the children.
The_Kuru ago
How in the hell is the media gonna explain its lockstep "debunked fake news" mantra about Pizzagate if it ends up a huge proven scandal with arrests? Save their posts about fake debunked news before the scrubbing begins. I don't see how they survive as news sources after that.
crashing_this_thread ago
There will be huge riots because of this. Some of these people will probably be killed by an angry mob.
MAGABoomer ago
I'd say the biggest "PEDOGATE IS FAKE" media pundits are pedos themselves. That's all. There's literally zero other possible excuse for not taking something so horrific and that has such enormous data behind it (from all around the world) to dismiss it. Look at the BBC covering up for Seville all those years. They don't deserve to survive anything, Their silence emboldens the pedos and creates more victims.
superesper ago
They'll handle it the same way they handled being exposed as sociopathic liars after telling the country Clinton couldn't lose and Trump was a joke for a whole year... By which I mean, they'll go down in flames and more and more people will wake up to the fact that they've been corralled into a fictional world view for their whole lives.
dickface8 ago
Seeya's, Gizmodo, WaPo, NYT! Catch ya never, Megyn fucking Kelly!
memegod420 ago
I said that after they got ass blasted with wikileaks and Hillary losing.
Boy I was wrong.
The_Kuru ago
Yeah but running interference for pedos so they can keep harming kids?
memegod420 ago
The establishment news is also part of that inner circle. They are the very ones that would take damage since it would come out they've been covering all along.
dickface8 ago
Cognitive dissonance is the only reason this whole thing hasn't been blown wide open yet. It's a motherfucker.
witch_doctor1 ago
Great question. My guess is that they don't survive as news sources. In the internet age, legacy media is quickly going the way of the phone book. This breaking will only accelerate that.
HashTagFU ago
And yet I still annually find one on my porch, although it's smaller and smaller with each passing year. I wonder when the dumb fuck publishers will realize it's a bad idea. Probably when the dumb fuck advertisers also realize it's a bad idea.
Womb_Raider ago
Saving their claims that it's fake is brilliant.
shoosh ago
It would be a great webpage expose arranging all the fake news story articles and videos in such a way that bombs them out of the water.
BoraxTheFungarian ago
lol, someone doesn't like your reinforcement, so I am reinforcing you.
Womb_Raider ago
I appreciate that, so as an act of solidarity, I'll reinforce your reinforcement.
jewsbadnews ago
They will. People are GOD DAMN STUPID and have short term memory. One of the reasons I became a fascist, people are too dumb to rule themselves.
Cara_C ago
We have a version of fascist rule now: government controlling the corporations and corporations controlling the government, with the people as suckers to be exploited and duped. The corporate media has been sent out to protect the sadistic pedophiles in the government and to attack the people trying to stop them. Trump was elected because he promised to return power to the people, who will not tolerate this evil if it is exposed.
jewsbadnews ago
http://i.imgur.com/RJhsORL.jpg
Cara_C ago
You think the situation is improved by embracing fascism, which is totalitarian in nature and doesn't even care about the masses when elections are being held? America is not supposed to be ruled by democracy. It is supposed to be a Republic that respects state and individual liberty and that balances democracy with systemic checks. The psychopaths who are always scheming to control everything should be limited in their power, which is not the case in fascist governments.
jewsbadnews ago
Jews have taken over our system and the only cure is fascism. Marxist brainwashing has controlled the people and we must take this country back by force. Were you at the woman's march today like a good little goy?
victuruslibertas ago
NO... Sheeple are TOO Dumb to rule themselves.. OUR Job is to SLAP the Sheeple around and WAKE them up. It is happening. I believe it will be escalated during a Trump administration.
d3r ago
Cool I've never heard someone say they became a fascist. Seems legit. People are checked out of politics.
jewsbadnews ago
I am legit.
FriesischShipping ago
He's just saying he became a cop.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
badum tssss
No, there really are proud fascists now. Interesting times, and all that.
HolyMoly0 ago
Obama's Homeland Security?
pizzaequalspedo ago
Within Homeland Security or fill in the blank letter agency, you're going to have some monsters doing the bidding of bad peolpe, and you're going to have some good guys that know right from wrong.
It comes from the top down, and hopefully Trump and the military intel know there's something there. The guys getting paychecks at Homeland Security will now have someone new to answer to, as Obama is playing golf in Hawaii.
Annon365 ago
Totally agree there must be 100s of outraged people in them agencies
pizzaequalspedo ago
All it takes is the right leadership, and it can happen.
Remove the Bush/Clinton/Obama friends, and appoint people interested in law and order to key leadership positions and anything is possible.
gopluckyourself ago
woot woot
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