I'm about to make an announcement about the rule and would also like to include an invitation to a few people I'm considering adding as moderators. Are you interested? I'd very much prefer people like you who have been around for a while and whose values line up with the core principles of voat.

I'm in complete agreement with that set of standards, and based on that the only thing I think this place needs to formalize is the prohibition of untagged NSFW content. It's a universal forum standard, well understood, and objectively enforceable. I'm implementing this now. Thank you very much for the input.

THIS SUB IS SHIT, GO SUCK A BABY DICK KIKES!

How do you know he isn't an alt and all this was planned to try to add new rules and get them put in as mods?

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No gore/animal torture/abuse, no porn posts. 1 post = deleted/ban

NSFW or gore must be tagged in comments.

Thanks, Kev.

I do. Special needs to keep infiltrating Reddit cucks off this site. REAL ANSWER You faggot marxists aren't taking this site.

I saw no spam even if they spammed it was taken care of with the rules in place and downvoats. Don't give more power to a group that 'saved the day' from something that was never a problem in the first place. That's how cunt reddit mods gain power in the first place. They create a problem in secret then step in and become the saviors of that problem. Everyone cheers them on then they gain their power and destroy us from within. Don't fall for this shit.

No fuck that. It's a system sub for a reason. Those people flooded the frontpage with content and drowned out other default subs. If anything they need to be de-modded forever. Downvoating the content was great but their brigading the frontpage was not needed and should not be glorified. I never saw one gore post because it was all downvoated. They are breaking rules by doing this. Imagine if the gore community did the same. The frontpage covered in gore. No fuck that.

5 mods on a system sub might be overkill, If not me I'll ping whoever absurdlyobfuscated picks

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I'll mod!

Post as much cute stuff as you want, but please don't make it a crosspost from Reddit, or something I saw 2 hours ago on another website. If you want an upvote, make it personal, make it relatable and most of all, make it original.

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What else should this subverse formally prohibit?

Yourselves, of my frontpage. I blocked you guys ages ago.

Fuck you and fuck your rules. Free speech is of the utmost importance and you dumb niggers want to throw it away for fucking cutesy animal pictures

Imo there should be a clear rule that pics of nude underage people / children is child porn (well, it actually is), and the user will be banned immediately, and reported to the admins, who in turn will inform authorities. This is, in my understanding, a Voat wide rule already, and this is how we handle child porn in v/pizzagate (I'm a mod there).

Then please create a rule that prohibits posting gore. People who come here would like to see cute pics, they shouldn't stumble upon gore. And please also create a rule that gore comprises pics of tortured and dead animals.

So basically, in order to avoid the recent spamming attacks, you'd just need three rules:

1) Posting child porn (pics of nude underage girls or boys) is not allowed, the user will get banned immediately, and will be reported to the admins, who will inform US authorities.

2) Hentai pics (child porn anime) is also not allowed, the user will be banned immediately.

3) Gore pics are not allowed, the user will be banned.

4) Pics of tortured or dead animals are not allowed.

@KatHarzSo @gabara @srayzie @Shizy @Vindicator

PLEASE DON'T CENSOR AT ALL!!! (except illegal shit like kiddie porn).

Not going down this route is worth whatever is required. From my end, as an end user, I'm willing to deal with occasionally seeing something that makes me uncomfortable to keep free speech unconditional on voat!

Can we just flag the content? At whatever point a moderator would choose to delete the posts or ban the user, instead flag the post as "mod-del". If you would ban the user, auto-flag any posts by that user as "mod-del". Then allow users an option in their profiles to auto-hide any posts flagged as "mod-del".

We already have the ability to flag posts, this would require adding an option to flag users per subverse and auto flag posts per subverse based on the user flag. It would also require an additional checkbox in our user account "hide 'mod-del' flagged posts".

This doesn't censor anyone, but gives every user the choice to not see these posts. We can have our cake and eat it too! Well, except for @PuttItOut that would have to make a few code changes...

That was a well thought-out response, Dial Indicator.

yeah well... fuck fawwgs... not a hater but fuck all these fucking pussyfags who brings fawwgie things on the front page.. fuckem and fuck those mother fuckers woth their news also... and fuck niggers too... bunch of mother fucking hypocritical reatrds..

And my friends, this is how you introduce control on voat.

• Create sub

• Bombard sub with posts and in sub shilling until it floods the front page. (Not hard just set up multiple accounts or pay an organisation to highly inflate its upvoats initially to make it jump on the trending section.

• Act the fool and tell other people if they don't like your engineered front page content don't click on it. ( I'm just a normal white person posting normal white person things Goyim)

• Wait until everyone's looking then introduce an engineered false flag attack. ( "this is sick, why would anyone do this?, there must be crazy dangerous people here.)

• Push controls onto your sub and claim you have no choice but to protect yourself. (Look at me me follow goats, look at what bad people have done to me, I must protect myself)

• We are here

• Flood other subs and push similar controls and moderating. ("Look fellow goats, maybe we should put in controls to protect ourselves as well." "I Agree fellow goat, Remember censorship saves lives")

• Common sense goats speak up. ( "ah, sorting through shit and crappy opinions is the price you pay for free speech")

• The ban hammer comes and Voat is lost. (" you can't say that, your wrong and disgusting, your literally egging on these dangerous people, Ban! Ban! Ban!")

Make no mistake.

If v/aww isn't a engineered attack on voat it will be the initial cancer that will spread and take this site down.

I dont think people should get banned until maybe 3 gore posts. Mainly because every 7th grader will do it once and no need to break the spirit of voat other than deleting the submission.

The jew trannies of soupdoxretardhammer taking over awww. Is voat retarded enough to let it happen?

I hope I never have to see another gabara post.. kill me now!

I'll agree with the people in the "Saying 'put your content where it belongs' is not censorship" crowd.

While I'm here, I'll say I do enjoy seeing stuff from here make it to the front page more often. It's a welcome break from the darkness we're surrounded by on a constant basis. With that in mind, however, I think posters using Plebbit-style baby language (doggo, pupper, kitteh, bunneh, etc....looking at you @gabara) need to be kicked in the taint until they learn how to speak like functional adults.

awww....we hate you too!

I like the how you used integrity to describe VOAT.

your efforts are appreciated and I would like to offer an opinion but I don’t have one....., (first time ever)

I’m confident that you will (or have) come to a solution that will indeed uphold the integrity that you speak of.

Cheers!

I can't even wrap my head around this nonsense. Why do we even have fucking subverses if we can't ban Gore from a subverse like v/aww

If you end up listening to the minority of people screaming about censorship when there would be absolutely no censorship happening, you're making the wrong choice.

The people posting gore will still be able to post gore to Voat. They're not being silenced. As it stands I have v/aww blocked and unsubscribed and that's not even because of the gore, that's because of the people trying to "balance" out the gore. I don't want to block any default subverse. However I'm at the point where I simply don't want between a third and half of every post I see on Voat to be kittens.

Anyways, this shit is getting way too retarded. You shouldn't even need to ask this question. It's gore being posted in v/aww.

The only people fighting this are people who want to damage Voat as a whole.

I had this exact problem posed to me for the alternative right sub.

I love you for how you've presented this to us all. Whatever decision you make, I'm not going to mind too much, but I think what you've done is pointed out a more fundamental problem which affects all subs, and Voat in general.

Honestly, in a perfect world, we'd leave it to the downvotes. HOWEVER, v/aww fans may absolute detest seeing such content. Therefore my proposed solution is to leave it to the downvotes, but also where u/PuttItOut (sorry for the ping) employs a system where users can create a threshold (either site-wide, or for each sub), so that they can say: "Okay, only show me posts OVER -5 votes" or "only show my posts over 0 votes", or "only show me posts over +5 votes". Those who are more brave to battles the stormy waters of trolls can have the threshold set to very low, whilst those who are more sensitive can set it to say, +5 or +10.

Id say tag it appropriately and let the community do the rest. No need to do anything else. I understand your frustration with the autists though.

Nope hadn't seen them, went looking, Hitler would not be happy... Sick fucks

But @plank0 is a pedophile kike faggot that was spamming loli hentai porn in mass on Voat, I still remember.

I think that if someone posts gore or animal abuse in v/aww they should be banned from the subverse, on the spot, no warnings, no temporary suspensions, no questions asked, no second chances.

The posting of gore pics in v/aww is not free speech, it's weaponized propaganda deliberately used to disrupt the community. Said people should be banned on sight, and remove the disruptive posts. This is not censorship, it's community policing, and it is perfectly legitimate.

The proof of non censorship is simple, anyone who wants to post off topic posts is free to start their own community within which to do so.

The Reddit example of this is how the censorship started - well, that's how Voat started as well. Site owners can censor if they want to - they can also lose their customers too. That's the civil law, and it remains valid even here.

Fuck I cannot read all that.

BULLETS - use them

((((((((((((((you)))))))))))))))

Thank you.

I get that this being a default people don't want it over modded. But if we have no order, that is a form of censorship.

If I and others start posting cute kittens to /v/politics and every other sub and we drown out important posts in other subs the problem will be much worse and the chaos will cause people to be censored because relevant posts in a sub will be missed. It is a form of spam to submit to the wrong subverse. People may block the sub and fracture off into new subs where their posts are seen even less.

I agree with fuckingmockies, the sapling pic may be better placed, but maybe it made someone say aww so leave it and let the votes decide. Maybe it looks like a bunny if you tilt your head or something.

But anything that is not a G rating should be removed from aww. Keep a modlog for transparency.

Gore and NSFW content should not be imposed on those browsing an innocent default sub like /aww, and especially not without warning.

Just stick to the rule of not allowing the brigading of a sub. It's common sense if a group of people starting posting off-topic pictures in a picture sub that there is a group of people brigading the sub. Ban those users for brigading. This can be a voat wide rule. It's not censorship when you are protecting the site from being over run. The answer of course is to downvoat and flag those posts as brigading. The wrong answer is to enact more rules or to brigade the FRONTPAGE WITH FUCKING CATS.

Keep your damn aww bullshit off the front page. Grow the fuck up.

I strongly recommend @HateCumbuckets he has been nothing but quality mod in the subverses I modded him for, and he has a good balance between following the rules and giving people the benefit of the doubt. @clamhurt_legbeard and @Empress can also vouch for him.

Rules for speaking on a free speech forum? Isn't that what down-votes are for?

Think long and hard on what you are going to do here. Censorship is a slippery slope.

1. Fix the ability for users to block the subverse.
2. Enforce NSFW tagging as appropriate.
3. Have moderators tag the title with additional labels "off-topic" "gore" etc.

Reacting to trolls is what they want. The way to get rid of trolls is to ignore them completely.

The rules should act as a guideline for downvoats since this is a default sub. Please don't resort to reddit style moderating, not because I like gore, but because it would be sacrificing the principles of free speech on which Voat prides itself. Now, if there was a way to move gore posts to /v/gore, which I just found out existed while writing this reply, I wouldn't have an issue with that. Another alternative would be to tag these as "Gore" or "NSFW" as a warning. Honestly though, if you start reddit moderating the assholes doing this win. They'll be able to point and say "Look, Voat claims to be free speech but they're really not!" and even worse it will confirm that they can actually manipulate us into compromising our values by acting like that. Yeah it's a bullshit tactic, but don't give into it. /v/aww seems to be their test bed, stand your ground otherwise they're just going to move on to whatever their next target is and do the same thing.

That said, I personally have only heard about these recent gore posts and have not witnessed any. I'm guessing these really only appear in /v/new which I never really look at. I would like to thank everyone that has been downvoating these gore posts so diligently as you have been doing an excellent job. I grew up in the early days of the internet so that type of content doesn't really bother me so going forward I'll make an effort to look for and downvoat the new gore posts here. Eventually whoever is doing this crap will get bored and give up if you stay the current course, however this post definitely gave the perpetrators a moral boost since they now know they're getting under mod level skin.

I'd be happy to help if you need it: I'm rather a fan of the sub. That said I haven't personally noticed any of the trollposts so you guys are either already doing a really great job or I'm not seeing the problem.

I'm usually active GMT evenings.

How deluded of you...

What's the point of having subverses if everything is a free for all? Cute stuff in /v/aww, gore in /v/gore it's that simple. Why complicate things. Are we becoming as retarded as reddit now, trying so hard to not be like "them". Thought we were smarter than that guys.

Until recently, I clicked on /v/aww posts for eye-bleach after seeing/reading disturbing content or to ease my mind after a long day.

So what does everyone think about adding rules prohibiting gore, animal abuse, and disturbing content?

Sounds great. There's already a subverse for that stuff... /v/wtf.

What else should this subverse formally prohibit? What do you think the moderators here should enforce, and what rules would justify the removal of a post or comment?

If it makes a person say, "Aww, that's cute and/or sweet," keep it. It it makes a person say, "Wtf?" or "That's fucking gross!," delete it.

Try this. And we'll trust the mods until we can't. At that point, we'll again try to get /v/aww off the default list.

Deleting non-tagged NSFW content from a default sub is completely reasonable when the content is off-topic to the sub.

that bunny looks miserable

"We have a problem with shit posting so will add mods from the shit post sub SBBH."

There's a difference between off-topic posts and something that is completely and knowingly antithetical to the content of the sub. If anything could be posted everywhere, there would be no different subs, just one all encompassing sub. I guess it wouldn't even be called a sub at that point.

In short, if someone posts a picture of, say, a sapling, that might be better suited for v/nature or v/trees, but it's not antithetical to v/aww, so that shouldn't be censored.

Gore and porn, however, should not be permitted. Delete the posts and and ban the users.

If you want to embrace the spirit of transparency, sticky the modlog once a month for people to review.

the only people who don't understand that gore doesn't belong on aww are autistics who have a problem with authority and no concept of social rules. there's nothing wrong with banning people for posting gore in an aww sub.

and i say this as a gore and guro aficionado.

It is always the strangest thing to see you handlers try to handle voat

WE DON'T NEED NO NEW RULES. LOOK AT ME, I'M THE CAPTAIN NOW.

and weird mentally disturbed freaks have the right to use this website,

Wait what? there's weirdos here? No way.

What else should this subverse formally prohibit?

First they came for the gore, and I didn't say anything because I don't like gore.

Next they came for the horses, and I don't have horses so

Then they came for the raccoons and they're vicious conniving little bastards with a touch of cute so.......

Then they came for dogs and dogs are butt sniffers so.......

Then they came for the kitties and I'm the only one who likes kitties.

After some thought, I agree with not removing posts, it starts a downward spiral. What if it was at least tagged nsfw?

I'll go right to their house, and kick them in the nads.

Remove nothing but blatant spam and CP. You said it yourself, deranged freaks and weirdos need to be able to use voat.

On one hand they're free to make their own gore subs.

On the other you have to be careful with starting a trend of censorship.

As it is I dont think theres enough gore posted to justify adding rules. They get immediteally downvoted to hell. If the bots were worse and they had the upvotes to be seen my view might change

Hey I can cover the night shift no problem. I won't bring unprofessional behavior here but also won't censor myself elsewhere.

Aww is for cute pictures. It's right in the name. I can't mod, to see the gore is too disturbing, but @KatHarzso and @HateCumbuckets are both people of integrity that could be entrusted with this job. Thank you for addressing this.

How bout 1 rule.

Gore = nuke

Simple stuff.