[–] Crensch 5 points (+7|-2) 17 hours ago

You two are talking past each other. You're both right and wrong, from what I can see.

@Trigglypuff has been trying to say "don't feed the trolls" this whole time.

@Srayzie has been trying to correct incorrect statements made by Triggly.

First, what I see Triggly being wrong about: @zyklon_b got banned for making 1990 comments.

Zyklon was banned for spam, not 1990 comments. Since he self-deleted his comments, unless anyone has an archive, the official reason is about all anyone has to go by. You might not think srayzie is unbiased, but ONE of the two erased the evidence. Zyklon's comments aren't in the modlog, and his most recent GA comment from SearchVoat was 10 days ago; meaning he removed them from there, too. Who had something to hide?

Oh. So you didn’t make a post saying that SBBH was brigading GA and QRV? Must have been my imagination then.

No, actually, she didn't. She said to prepare for attacks.

I honestly would have prepared for the same had I banned a zyklon alt. He acts like he doesn't care, but he takes stuff like that personally, and generally he has folks following him when he chimps out. All from SBBH. The label isn't a stretch. If the FBI is out to get you, is it all of them, or is it just some? You guys took that dick way too hard for being unflappable shitposters.

Regardless, she apologized for the wording, and explained what she meant. Everyone else that took umbrage at that seemed to cool off almost immediately. People make mistakes.

Because I’m sending group messages trying to brigade @Zyklon_b and @Gabara. Yeah I’m making a bigger issue out of this.

You don’t have to. It’s implied. Look at the reaction you got.

Brigade them? 23,000ccp and 52,000ccp. I highly doubt @srayzie was trying to brigade them; what good would it do? Do you think she's that stupid?

Hell, someone brigade me like that. Please ping people to read my words that you don't like. I welcome the feedback, or the jousting.

It looked to me like she wanted feedback from people she trusted before going public with it, or letting it drop if something got worked out. I see nothing wrong with this. Also, which of those she pinged are known for up/downvoting based on groupthink or following the leader?

Blatant attempt to call for support pinging users who are my friends too..

What's wrong with calling for suport from mutual friends? You did the same, here.

And yet your whole user base now thinks v/SoapBoxBanhammer is brigading this sub. Despite you being a SBBH mod.. not cool Hun

Why would they think SBBH is brigading? Attacking, maybe, but all she said in her post was to be prepared for it. She was an SBBH mod, a long time ago.

Yet I notice every comment of his has 3 or 4 downvoats now? Intent or not that’s what is happening.

I don't know where you're looking, but if users are acting out, those made aware of it aren't exactly honor-bound to not vote when pinged there. It's their choice what to do with their votes. Why is it her fault for making them aware of it? Again to the question of which ones follow her and vote blindly?

Now what Triggly is right about: P.s. the circle jerk is acting like a circle jerk

Maybe the sub should consider classifying itself as a circle jerk.

It could be said that the mods are reacting in exactly the way that someone engineering drama would want..

Yes, it could. If someone is engineering this drama, then who is either the useful idiot, paid idiot, or the one behind this? Who still accepts that username?

You had enough proof to ban him and end the matter.

Yep. And you have evidence that she fully expected to be attacked just for banning his alt; a lot to consider going for a main if you're already worried about an alt. She obviously didn't think it would end the matter, but start a bigger one.

Why are you struggling with this concept? I’m trying to help you!

She is, @srayzie. Telling you what nearly everyone has told you at least once: Do your positive stuff in GA, have fun shitposting, and let the insignificant nobodies fade away, since they have no platform or reputation upon which to shout their message. You've powered through and caught a lot of shills by being stubborn on this front, but there's another way to win.

I don’t have a problem with loli or porn being banned. That was never my arguement.

This is true.

Until I offered an opinion that you didn’t like? Where did I say that we weren’t?

Triggly never said the two of you weren't cool, srayzie. You both were talking past each other and getting heated; I don't really see a reason that you wouldn't be, but I'd assume this was just stated because tensions/emotions were high.

What @srayzie is wrong about: Always engaging the trolls and shills. I'd wager if a poll were to be taken, 99% of everyone would point to that as her main flaw.

@Crensch has seen our frustrations behind the scenes. Ask him if we’re engineering drama. What an insult Triggly.

She didn't say you were engineering drama, she said the mods are reacting as someone engineering drama would want.

I thought you and I were cool too.

I don't see any reason why the two of you wouldn't be cool. You butted heads, now cool off, read the above, smile face to face, and punch each other in the gut one good time. Then help each other walk out looking like you're both drunk and can't stand up straight.

What @srayzie is right about: @Crensch has seen our frustrations behind the scenes.

She is frustrated. She wants to be left alone, and wants to make things better for people who are only guilty of believing in Q.

This is dumb.

A staggering amount of what passed back and forth was dumb, but only because the two of you weren't seeing each other. You were seeing an enemy, and blinded to each other's position and arguments.

No, I’m tired of the drama. But shit like this is what sparks it.

I won't claim to know what she's tired of, but she doesn't go an look for this stuff, she's just an easy target for it. Exceedingly stubborn, but that's worked out in Voat's favor at a decent rate; many very difficult to pin down shills were busted because she went on the warpath.

You’re insinuating that I wanted people to go brigade them, when what I did was provide proof, screenshots, and archived links of Zyklon encouraging gore and porn on QRV and threatening me and Shizy.

Undeniably true.

I'm with @gabara. I'd like it if the two of you took a breather and came back later with cooler heads. No reason to attack each other, and things really could have been talked out directly from the get-go, I think.

Yes, srayzie attacked SBBH. Yes, triggly got angry and lashed out. Yes, srayzie apologized. Yes, inaccurate and accurate things were said back and forth. Yes, tensions were high and thoughts and words about each other were maybe taken too far.

I think you both are awesome.

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