https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7RI4d-M2Lk
And he cried out in a mighty voice: “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a lair for demons and a haunt for every unclean spirit, every unclean bird, and every detestable beast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTRUtFbE0Ok
50:22 “A sound of battle is in the land, and of great destruction
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50:23 How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
50:24 I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O Babylon, and thou wast not aware: thou art found, and also caught, because thou hast striven against the LORD.”
There are some so called prophecy “experts” who have proposed the theory that Rome or even Iraq is the location for the “Mystery Babylon” of Prophecy. There is One of those CINOS here on this site He or she considers the ancient prophecies of Revelation chapters 17 and 18 primarily.
Some of those experts also refer to other prophecies of Isaiah 13, 14, 18, 47, and Jeremiah 50 and 51. That is the main line of proof for such a view.
The site of ancient Babylon can be the only literal rendering of this prophecy according to those theorists. They proudly claim that they are the only, holy LITERAL interpreters of the text. To take the text LITERALLY one must assume then, that ancient Babylon is the LITERAL Babylon of the prophecies written by the Old and New Testament authors. Such a view assumes way too much, particularly in the translation work. Is it possible that there could be a different and more literal view based on a sharper rendering of the original Hebrew and Greek texts? Yes. Why?
The results however indicate that the “America is Mystery Babylon” theory is correct and valid. Why? It is really very simple. Follow the exact rendering of the original Hebrew and Greek texts for themselves and you will find numerous character traits for the future nation of Mystery Babylon. Yes, I did use the term “nation” because again, what seems to be merely a city being described is not just a city. Most literally, the prophecies not only refer to a city but to cities, PLURAL. Also the prophecies refer to farming and the farmers of Babylon. There are no farms in a city.
There are numerous character traits listed for this city/state/nation that is referred to as either “Babylon” or “Mystery Babylon”. These character traits serve as identifying markers that give us the clues as to the identity of such a city/nation. Those traits must all match perfectly to one identity. We cannot ignore some and select others. These traits are numerous and 60 of those traits clearly can be identified with America. The following list shows what traits do match up with America.
1. The Jewish Population Issue: Jeremiah 50:8, 25; Jeremiah 51: 6, 45; Isaiah 48:20 and also Revelation 18:4. These are all references to Jewish people living in this future “Mystery Babylon” in the ancient Babylon, from the 6th Century BC till well into the early Church Age, the majority of the Jewish population lived in ancient Babylon. It was the home to most of the world’s Jews even in the time of Christ. Today, the largest population of Jewish people is found in the United States. The next two nations combined, Israel (home to the 2nd largest Jewish population) and Russia (home to the 3rd largest Jewish population) do not equal the population of Jewish people living in America. Iraq on the other hand has only a relative handful of Jews living within its borders. Some estimate the Jewish population in Iraq at perhaps 10,000. That is not very many people, particularly in regards to the population of most other nations hosting the Jewish remnant. This character trait of being the lead host for Jewry is indicative that America today fulfill’s the prophecies of “mystery Babylon.” Therefore, this trait alone qualifies the theory of “America = Mystery” Babylon.
2. The chief city of Mystery Babylon is a “DEEP WATER PORT CITY”!!! Revelation 18: 17-19. This passage tells us that merchant ships are standing off the shoreline of Babylon. These ships have either just unloaded in the port city of Mystery Babylon, or are waiting to dock when the fiery judgment hits. These ship captains, crew and passengers are witnesses to the destruction.
Question: Why would these folks be standing on deck of merchant ships unless there were port facilities in this city?
Answer: The city is a port city. In this day and age, especially by virtue of the list of commodities that are traded in “Mystery Babylon,” (see Revelation 18:11-13) there must be at least one deepwater port in the nation of Mystery Babylon. One thing can be noted regard to modern day port facitilites. In order for Babylon to have the kind of merchandise (described in Revelation 18:11-13) coming by ships then those ships must be going to and from a DEEP WATER SEA- PORT CITY. Why? For today’s ships to bring such merchandise requires them to be large commercial freighters with DEEP drawing drafts. These ships require deep-water port facilities to dock and load/unload because their hulls are so deep. They are BIG ships.
Now here is knowledge – America has deep water seaports!!! That’s right, there is DEEP Water port facility in all of America.
3. It is the KEY Commercial Nation and Engine of Wealth for the World’s Economy: Isaiah 47:15. Revelation 17:2; Revelation 18: 3, 9, 11-13, 15, 16, 17-19, 22, 23, & 19:2. In these passages we see just what relationship Babylon enjoys with the rest of the world. Here she is clearly the critical factor in the world economy. When she goes down in flames…what is the lament? “What was like unto this mega city? Who will buy our goods now that she is gone”? The answer is that no one will be able to buy the products of the world’s merchants. What does this tell us??? It should be a clear warning indicator that whoever this nation is… the rest of the world depends on her for buying their merchandise. With her destruction, there is no one left to buy these goods. That tells us just how vital this nation is and it means this nation is the engine of wealth for the world. Now, America does fit that role.
4. It is the principal Commodities Trading Center: These are all commodities in a list that are the chief trading products as cited in Rev 18:11-13, for which the merchants and sailors later lament that no one will buy these products anymore. This includes Gold, Silver and Copper. Now on these items alone… there is more Gold traded in New York City on the COMEX in one day than in all the rest of the world combined !!! The same is true for Silver and Copper and Crude Oil. In fact, the volume of trade is so heavy that in one day alone there is more gold traded than had been traded in all of human history up until 1974 when gold trading was allowed on a futures contractual basis. That is how massive and dominant the USA and NYC are in the commodities trading markets. Revelation 18: 12 & 13, lists many other commodities as well, including grains and livestock. Now, Chicago is the Host City for such record trading in that arena. It too is a port city on as it sits on Lake Michigan. The fact of the matter: America is an economic power… it is the economic engine of wealth for the whole world. If America vanished from the face of the earth today it would cause a ripple in the world’s economy.
However, if the USA vanished today it would decimate the world’s economy and bankrupt every nation on earth, instantly. In essence, there would be no one left to buy the foreigner’s goods. That’s because no one else wants to import goods. They only want to export not import. The USA is the big promoter of international trade and promotes imports plus free trade.
5. A Leading center of imports and consumption: Revelation 18: 11, 17-19. These passages tell us the economic picture of this nation. Note that this nation is not only involved in the trade of these products, but that she is also the leading importer… because when she is destroyed…”no one buys”… their merchandise anymore. The folks doing the lamenting are the international merchants who export goods to this mystery Babylon. Therefore, she is the leading import nation. She is therefore, by virtue of her importer status, the chief consuming nation. This also is a description of America. America has such status in the world today, tomorrow and the foreseeable future! It is this aspect which negates the Rome theory…because the contention is that we are living in the “last days” and the fulfillment of the end-times prophecies are at hand. IF this is true, and I assert that it indeed is true, then how can Rome match these character traits in so short a span of time??? Answer: she can’t. Rome is not the nation being described. There is only one nation that fits these traits, and more. That nation is the United States of America.
6. She is also a manufacturing nation: Revelation 18: 22. This passage tells us manufacturing is no longer found in her after the judgment. This tells us that she was a manufacturing nation prior to her destruction. Rome is not a nation noted for manufacturing.
7. Center for Merchandising and Marketing. Revelation 18: 3, 23; 19:2. Her merchants were the mega-merchants of the earth. This again does not fit the character traits of Rome. It does, however, fit the picture of America.
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25180748? ago
Even after the kosher spammers close shop for the evening, the crackpots still remain.
25180997? ago
I agree with the OP. You fucktards are a dime a dozen. I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass.
25181027? ago
Ok OP, we all believe you.
25181057? ago
WTF? I don't think you are stupid. You just have a bad luck when thinking. Stupidity is not a crime so you are free to go.
25181078? ago
Ok OP.
25181104? ago
So, a thought crossed your mind? Must have been a long and lonely journey. What language are you speaking? Cause it sounds like bullshit.
25181126? ago
Enjoying your rant OP?
25181137? ago
You are proof that evolution CAN go in reverse. Not the OP fucktard.
25181152? ago
Uh huh.
Whatever You say OPs alternate account.
25181207? ago
Brains aren't everything. In your case they're nothing. I don't do the stupid sock puppet shit Sherlock.
25181267? ago
Uh huh.
We all believe you OP.
25181616? ago
BUSTED!! Playing the part of two people again eh? You're so obvious it is pathetic. You're not as crafty as you think. You are no true follower of the Way, Truth and Life. Total liar and CINO.
25181714? ago
Yes OP, you are busted. You've been pretending to be two different people.
Who is it you think I am?
25181730? ago
Wrong.
Who do I think you are? A CINO.
25181745? ago
Yes your wrong.
Admitting it's good a first step!
25181767? ago
No you are wrong. lol
I have only one account. I have always had just one account. lol
You're busted again. I catch you playing two people every single time. lol
You are the offspring of your father, the Devil.
25181936? ago
Who do you think I am OP?
You accuse everyone who disagrees with you of being the same person. It's a common occurrence with you. You accuse others of what you do.
You can't possibly think I'm the person who keeps posting about the Roman Catholic church because you said you were going to ignore them from now on, so if you think I'm them then you talking to me right now would make you a liar.
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3975099/25180092
Are you a liar OP?
25181965? ago
You are the same individual. Am I a liar. No. You are. You gave yourself away and I am book marking this conversation for proof down the road when you play the role of two people again.
By supplying the link you just proved I was telling the truth that you play the role of two people every single time.
Thank You.
What a fake.
25182095? ago
Do you have proof I'm them?
Do you think nobody else reads these threads?
If you think I'm them then you are a liar, because you said you were going to ignore them from now on.
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3975099/25180092
"I am also going to ignore you from now on as well. "
That is a direct quote.
Why do you lie OP?
25182185? ago
You just gave yourself away. You are so deceived you cannot see that you are doing this to yourself.
I don't need proof God KNOWS. So do YOU.
25182216? ago
How did I give myself away OP? Do you believe only one person reads these threads and sees what you say?
You can't post proof.
I just posted proof of you lying.
Why are you a liar OP?
25182291? ago
I didn't address your alternate account below CINO. You are Soooooo busted!!
“Blessed is he who has crucified the world and who has not allowed the world to crucify him.”
You just posted proof that you have more than one account and try to play the part of two different people time and time again. Then you lie like the devil and try to deny it. You do it every time. You are BUSTED pal. Big time.
YOU ARE A FAKE FRAUD CINO.
Like the Father/Mother told me you are. You are powerless. Wicked. Full of Evil. Not Anointed. live in Sin. Try to deceive. But cannot and never will get away with it. EVER.
There are others on here who KNOW of YOU as well. We all know what you are.
A FRAUD like your false prophet Q. lol
Nite nite CINO.
25182300? ago
I have no alternate accounts.
You told them you were going to ignore them, you claim I'm them and you're not ignoring me.
You are a liar.
You can never prove your claims.
25182327? ago
I already did in this thread.You did it for me. lol
25182357? ago
No, you claimed I'm them.
You have no proof I'm them, just your claim.
I have proof of your lie because you are a liar.
25182200? ago
I just posted proof of you lying.
Why are you a liar?