Who is a bigger threat to voat? Zyklon with his sperg-outs, or crensch with his reddit moderation? Poll link inside. (ProtectVoat)

submitted ago by ExpertShitposter

I just thought we would make an interesting "head count".

Zyklon has been sperging out with pings and threats against kids. Everyone called him out on his shit. However, anyone can block him.

Crensch has engaged in reddit style moderation with pre-emptive bans based on association. No one can stop his bans.

Not gonna make a page worth of drama links, you can see accusations and drama regarding both in posts made to this sub in the past days.

Most people agree that both of them are wrong, but who is a bigger threat to voat? Who is more likely to turn this website into something not worth visiting in some near or far future. Weather its because zyklon behavior becomes accepted as normal, so him and others make it to "toxic" for serious political and otherwise discussion. Or crensch heavy handed banning behavior makes it normal for everyone to ban anyone in defense against "shills". Keep in mind, when 2020 comes around, r/the_donald will probably finally get banned from reddit for real this time, and we will potentially become minorities compared to fresh reddit refugees. And this time they won't have a home to run back to, and won't be BTFO'd as easily as last time.

If one of them HAD to be banned of the website, and you HAD to chose which one, who would you pick?

Note the wording there. Its not about weather anyone SHOULD be banned, but a question of making a better choice if one HAD to be gotten rid of, by fucking magic if you will, and you had no say in it. Just a choice between the two. Basically, who is the more dangerous goat? Have a vote in the poll:

https://www.strawpoll.me/18085061

Edit: some of you lack reading comprehension and imagination. Re-read the last paragraph 10 times. Then have a mix of vodka and red bull, then read 10 more times, before you comment. maybe that way we can avoid the "why are you calling for bans" conversations.

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Hey_Sunshine ago

What does zyklon bring to voat?

ExpertShitposter ago

  1. What does zyklon bring to voat?
  2. What does crensch bring to voat?
  3. What threat does zyklon create to voat?
  4. What threat does crensch create to voat?

Hey_Sunshine ago

  1. Shitposts and 1990 comments
  2. Methodical, systematic autist who helps keep order and can detect shills better than anyone I've seen on here.
  3. None
  4. None

What does voat lose by banning zyklon?

What does voat lose by banning crensh?

I don't see a point in banning either user but if one had to go... A single tear would roll down my cheek as I played the world's smallest violin while I waited for zyklon to make an alt account to continue with his bullshit.

The only folks who want to see people banned are the those would see this site become reddit2.0

Is that what you want?

ExpertShitposter ago

who helps keep order

pffffft.

and can detect shills better than anyone

He made a 6 000 000 page essay on how voats gardener, @middle_path, who barely spends any time in political sub-verses, is a MEGA JEW, based on his centrist opinions. Now he hangs out with a group of people who say "Israel is our greatest ally, they want you devided by race! dont let them!"

waited for zyklon to make an alt

The premise is that this is a magical permaban.

folks who want to see people banned are the those would see this site become reddit2.0

Let me direct you to crensches work in GA banned users, and deleted posts pages then.

Is that what you want?

I clearly outlined that this is not a "should we ban people" post, but a "who is worse post".

Hey_Sunshine ago

Yeah, I said it. Crensch helps keep order when he points users begging for upvoats.

How about when he notices innocuous happenings like this?

That's just a cursory search.

Let's do the same for zyklon and see if we can find anything of value with his posts, shall we?

What a great guy! Surely brings many conversations to the v/dinnertable.

I'm phone posting right now so you'll have to forgive me for not writing up a full length paper as to why banning people is some reddit tier bullshit.

Just know that you're a faggot of the lowest calibur and your drama post belittles your reputation.

Not that it matters

ExpertShitposter ago

banning people is some reddit tier bullshit.

So then crensch is more dangerous?

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Hey_Sunshine ago

Yes, cause crensch has admin powers now and can ban niggers with impunity.

ExpertShitposter ago

I'd say the power flex he does in GA, and his call for mass downvote against zyklon, is indicative of what he would do if he did have putt's power.

CheeseboogerHimself ago

He will attack anyone who exposes zionism or anyone who will not align with a zionist political movement..

Hey_Sunshine ago

You can be ass mad about it all you like, won't change the fact that crensch isn't the admin.

What's it matter to you how he moderates his subs?

ExpertShitposter ago

Well, yes, it does. Nobody was ever admin. All ban related discussion that we ever had in PV were related to moderation in private subs.

Second, he does not ban in accordance with his own stated rules.

Third, i'd question the validity of the claim that its "his sub". It consists of a large audience. Does the majority of that audience agree with his moderation? The sub was grown under Sryzi, under a certain behavior. Than that behavior suddenly changed, and then the sub was handed over to crensch, by her. And now he acts even more different. Is it really his to play with?

Hey_Sunshine ago

  1. v/protectvoat isn't a default sub and isn't subject to the default subverse guidelines
  2. See the above reply,
  3. I think the [O] by his username is evidence of his ownership of the subverse.

I'm having a think here, a big think

Could it be that maybe the concern trolls and thinly veiled threats might've ran srayzie off?

I dunno Scooby... It's almost like there's a motive behind all this concern trolling.

Gee...

Rotteuxx ago

What about the old way of thinking that if an [o] wasn't the sub creator than he wasn't really its owner, just its curator and therefore had to publicly poll the subs community about any changes ?

That he couldn't unilaterally decide on things that impacted the sub ?

ExpertShitposter ago

You are weird.

Hey_Sunshine ago

yup