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One of the signals was "A-S", which at first I thought might refer to Adam Schiff.
It turns out Amazon was the customer leasing the plane from Atlas. And the division of Amazon is Amazon Air. So hat is the better solution, because "A-S" is 1-19, 1-19 = 1-10 = 1-1 = A A.
The A-S is to be read as A-A, Amazon Air.
Also the complete flight number was SY3591. S-Y gematria is 19-25 = 44 or 8. "3591"= 18 or 9.
I read OBAMA for 44, and 8; I read 17 =Q for 8+9.
"Three" or "3" or ""1-3" continue to make appearances. The plane was a B767-300.
THREE. THREE DEAD. HUMAN REMAINS. TRINITY. ANAHUAC = 49 = 13 =C_A. Atlas Air. Amazon Air. 1-1. A-A.
30 miles from Houston. 30 minutes from landing. Enroute to IAH (=9) scheduled to arrive at 1:17 (=9).
But crashed at 12.45 (=1-2 = 3). 3 dead. CIA-E. Flight SY3591 = 44 or 8 = H. Hussein.
Signed...Q.
I believe POTUS crashed the plane.
Overall I take as strengthening the original decode and interpretation.
Just like the Poles cracked the Enigma using "past proves future" to break the cipher. The Poles used math, while Turing/Bletchley used linguists+math. I'm definitely far more into the linguistics and semantics side of things than the math portion. I only see the solution after a problem is solved and the appropriate operands are plugged in. You must be hungry for some kielbasa and pierogis about now.
I do not see Q/POTUS splashing an airliner with innocents on it. That got scratched off my list immediately. Q/WH would, however splash a plane with DS air crew, if it contained something which, in the interest of national security, could not be let loose. The options are endless. The rapid descent of the plane looks like a complete failure and decompression or an explosion. The 1st descent took the plane -7,000' starting at near 40k altitude. The fatal descent shortly after, took it from 36,000' to sea level in an uncontrolled descent. That description (to me) sounds like either a catastrophic systems failure (doubtful on a new, reliable plane like a 767-300) or an explosion/interception via A2A missile. The plane was splashed in a location where recovery is more possible than out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico.
Besides all the circumstantial data in the announcement (totally under gov't control) you have the
prime fact that ATLAS AF was hidden in Trump's tweet three days before the news.
Very suspicious also, no "mayday" from the crew.
NTSB and FAA in control now.
IMO Amazon is being cornered.
You'd think rogue CIA was fairly well controlled by now...so the operator is Amazon,
and you have to be careful going after Bezos. Christ the guy is worth 150 billion and wired in with the CIA.
Must be slow and sure.
"3" and "30" and "1-3" keep coming coming up.
Guess how many Boeing 757 300s Amazon has.
Or rather, "had" before SY3591 went down.
It is just my intuition. But the repetion of "3" and "three on board" and "no survivors" and "human remains" is a tip-off.
It is my hunch is that they are going to find horrific stuff
in the wreck that proves Amazon or inside operators are trafficking bodies/parts etc..
Just a long shot speculation, but a lay-up compared to ATLAS AIR FLEET on February 20.
The wreck is not in deep water, but there is no fire.
3 is a prime number. It is bound to occur. My question is what is it about Amazon? The best guess I have is the "second layer" of Amazon infrastructure is used for human trafficking and AWS is a data mining operation to glean all things on everyone to target their vices, weaknesses, food supply, etc.
"A-S" came up in the tweet early. At first I thought it fingered Adam Schiff. But then the news said that the contractor was Amazon Air..
In gematria "S =19 = 1+9 = 10 =1. 1 = A. So A-A is an equally valid reading for A-S and fits the facts as discovered.
The recurrence of "3" does not refer to Amazon. I think it refers to the "triangle", the cabal.
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OK more questions than answers, let me sum up some observations
and my speculations and conclusions.
The crash of Atlas Air Fleet flight 3591 on February 23 confirms a hidden message by Donald Trump made on February 20 by DJT. In that tweet there qwas code that specifically read ATLAS AF. There was also coded references to "CF", "AS", "HC" (3-8) and in the thime stamp, MIAMI.
From the news reports on February 23, we can now guess that "AS" likely refers to Amazon; CF is likely to be Clinton
Foundation; and HC is likely to be Hillary CLinton.
The flight origination, Miami, and the announced fatalities, 3, confirm conclusively the tweet message, because MIAMI-3 was coded IN THE TIME STAMP of the tweet on February 20.
It is now also in public that the CIA is a contractor with
Atlas.
____________further irregularities and observations:
News reports indicate the following:
1. The plane did a "nosedive" into a large, lake-like swamp/marsh area.
2. FAA simply lost contact suddenly, there was no report of mayday signals or distress communications from the pilot.
3. Only three people were reported on board. Their names have not been released.
4. There are various circumstantial connections and symbolic references to CIA, AMAZON, Hillary Clinton, Clinton Foundation, and the Bush family.
Overall it is fair to claim that this event proves conclusively that there was indeed a hidden, coded message in Trump's tweet of February 20, although the full meaning of the tweet message is yet to be understood.
While I made the call on the message on February 20, we are now at the point of speculating and discovering the meaning, and my interpretation is not necessarily better or worse than anyone elses'.But here are my thoughts:
POTUS crashed the plane. This is indicated because he called it out on Feb 20. Also the lack of injuries and the known details of the crash show that great care was taken to make a spectacular event, but not cause great loss of innocent life. In this respect it is similar to the Ketron Island Q400 stunt in Sea-Tack with Richard B. Russell.
Amazon, CIA, HRC and CF are going to come to grief over the incident. I predict that stuff found in the wreckage
will be bad news for the bad guys. My guess is that the "human remains" reported discovered, will be in excess of the "three" people reported on board. This will unavoidably
trigger investigations.
Because it is a crash the FAA has full authority over the results and we will be kept in the dark. There will be anxiety and fear at the cabal, because they will not know the extent of the findings by the investigators.
**
Things we would like to know:**
What was on the plane ?
Who was on the plane ?
Who were the recipients going to be for the cargo ?
Why did Amazon use ATLAS for transporting freight, instead of a normal commercial carrier or contractor ? Why do they need a specialist in CIA and covert operations, to transport normal consumer merchandise ? Doesn't it strike anyone else as strange that a CIA contractor is needed to ship skirts and shoes and flip flops from Miami to Houston ?
Rather than create a new sub, I can make a standalone post for you, if you want to PM it to me. Also, I think you'd get a lot more eyeballs on v/GA vs a new QAnon decode sub. Also, showing the basic "math" (show your work!) on the Gematria would be a great help for many of us.
I am quite willing to show the work, but I think it needs to be on a suitable platform. I do not want to waste time arguing about whether the messages are there of not; I want to talk to like-minded individuals who may have better interpretations and decodes than I do, so we can all learn from each other.
The trouble is that there are at least three levels of discussion.
First there is the literal tweet. First the tweets that have messages must be identified. Sometimes, but not always by any means, the literal tweet has clues and a relationship to the coded message, though it is more common for the subject to be completely different from the visible content.
Second there is the cryptography and operation to transform the tweet elements in the coded message. This is also a subject for discussion and analysis, and is really critical to "getting the message." And there are often multiple meanings.
Third, there is the meaning of the cryptographic elements. I saw ATLAS AF, but did not know why or how ATLAS AIR FLEET was having attention called to it.
We are still looking and waiting for the answers on how CF, AS, and 8-3 (Hillary?) fit in; and in one day we got great leads that indicate AMAZON may be intended instead of Adam Schiff, who was my first guess for "A_S".
Fourth, there is the discussion and analyis of what the message MEANS, what is the reality hinted at. Even when we are 100% certain that ATLAS AIR FLEET is the subject,
we do not know why and in what way they are involved in current events. So the "reality" identified in the decode is a whole 'nother topic.
Fifth, there is "disinformation" in the tweets, as well as confirmations. I took a lot of grief on Obama and RBG tweet decodes, because the tweet codes suggested strongly they were dead, but subsequent evidence cast grave doubts about this, and gave me egg on face. But I know my decodes were solid.
So like I say I am willing to share but on a general thread there will be a lot of people who will not understand the proofs even when I present them.
We kind of need a "decoders" thread and forum, to discuss how to recognize and translate the code clues into recognizeable form.
How many humans ? Doesn't say. Only three people were on board. Of course the number of former humans represented by the remains, may be in number larger than three. But it doesn't say, does it ?
Sandy Kenyon reports live from Hollywood.
Saturday, February 23, 2019 06:14PM
ANAHUAC, Texas (KTRK) --
Human remains have been found by investigators after a Boeing 767 nose-dived into the Trinity Bay in Chambers County Saturday.
Also I meant to add before getting distracted by the SSN 687 Richard B. Russell, that my guess is that really bad stuff will be found in the wreckage of the Texas Atlas Air crash.
I suspect it will be enough to convict the CIA, Amazon,and CF and other related parties in the very worst kind of criminal horror.
It strikes me as odd that such an incident occurs to a flight
and only 3 unnamed individuals are on board. I realize this is natural for a cargo plane, it barely deserves a second thought or notice.
But just suppose that the human remains of MORE THAN THREE individuals are discovered in the wreckage. What if the body parts of MORE THAN THREE human beings are discovered in the debris of Flight 3591 ?
We will find out more as time goes by, but I am worried that the FAA will keep things pretty tight for a while...we still don't have details from the Ketron Island Q400 crash with the Richard B. Russell.
In passing I note here that it was, and is, my opinion that the unauthorized missile launch at Whidbey Island, WA on June 10 in Pugent Sound was from a rogue CIA nuclear submarine that was converted from the SSN 687, the Richard B. Russell, at the Bremerton Navy Yard in Pugent Sound.
That's my main reason for not being sure Trump arranged the crash. I don't think he would have done something intentionally killing three innocent people.
So I am more inclined to think the operators were bad guys...CIA-E. CIA operatives-E'd.
You are pointing out the key scenarios including the drone (remote controlled flight). I believe there are only 3 options. First, a true crash. Second, a deep state crash to destroy cargo (most likely remote controlled). Third, a Military Intelligence op, to prevent the plane from continuing it's path (also remote controlled). I believe in the second option with the crash remote controlled. Maybe we find out soon. I hope so.
Second and third are possible, first is totally out because of advance message by POTUS.
We differ on our guess. I think the third possibility is far more likely than the second.
Deep State has lost control of the investigation of the crash remains, which are not out in the ocean but in a swamp thirty miles from the destination. This cannot be to their liking.
Possible the crew were bad guys. Also possible the plane was a drone. the reports are making too many repeats of "3" and "13". Trinity Bay...30 miles...30 minutes...3 crew members...Anahuac...etc etc
Q has indicated that the majority of plane crashes are criminal
acts enabled by various techniques and technologies in the sabotage of electronics, avionics, or insertion of rogue navigation programs. The pilots loose control of the plane, they often become remote controlled drones, in effect.
In the Atlas Air Fleet, we have more questions than answers.
First, we have no idea what the purpose or mission was of the flight.
Second, we do not know who "arranged" for the creash...it is even possible that POTUS was responsible, since there was a clear advance call out of ATLAS AIR several days before.
In other words POTUS may have been aware of an evil mission by the Cabal, and decided to really spank them by crashing the plane himself. How would I know ?
But one thing is for sure. POTUS called out ATLAS AF in a coded message on February 20, and on February 23 CBS reported an ATLAS AIR crash on a flight from Florida to Texas.
In passing, I did not make a call on the time stamp; there were two "reads" but I did not feel confident presenting either. I have trouble with the time stamps.
But one read involved Florida (MIAMI) and the other,
Iranian cash drops. So the MIAMI read looks to be confirmed since the plane was en route from Miami to Houston.
I'm skimming for the early reports before they get buried. That's usually where the details are.
You definitely made the decode. Pretty amazing work by you! There are a 100 reasons and circumstances of the plane going down. The provenance alone is pretty damning.
Is it a message that you can hide your money but if you can fall out the sky at someone's order he may not be around to even spend it. A warning to show him money doesn't stop certain things he may be trying to avoid.
The divorce some have said is a way for him to hide all of his money to prevent it from being taken through E.O.
With Amazon coming into the picture maybe I missed something and the "A-S" may refer to Amazon Web Services.
Can't say. But it's looking like "3-8" does mean Hillary Clinton (8-3 = H-C)
AWS holds the CIA cloud contract. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire infrastructure of Amazon had a "shadow layer" which was used for human trafficking logistics.
My instincts on the "A=S" may be wrong. Thought it was Adam Schiff but more likely Maybe its Amazon Web Services...might have missed a "W" signal. Amazon makes more sense now given the news.
Blacksmith...I've got about 50 decodes like that. Some unbelievable shit.
Some appear to be disinformation...I got a boatload of abuse over tweet decodes that indicated Obama and RBG were dead.
Oh well...sometimes you have to take one for the team, you know what I mean ?
I'd be interested in understanding exactly how this works, sallywoofs, as would @Blacksmith21. I get that trolls will troll you for it, but you called your home run like Babe Ruth, here so it bears looking into.
Here are the basics. There is no "exactly how it works". All the communications have deniability.
Context is important. The system Trump uses is unique and is designed to avoid normal cryptographic analysis.
Letters A-Z have numbers corresponding to them, 1-26
Letters to be looked at in gematria have caps
Uncapitalized letters can also have meaning, but not in gematric calculations and operations
In gematria, the order of the numbers is flexible as is the transformation back and forth from numbers to letters.
(example: "14" can be read as 1-4, 4-1, 1+4 = 5, or A-D, D-A, E, 14, or 41)
Punctuation has meaning.
"!" means "double value" of gematria. [So "NO!" can be read as (14-15 NO), or (NO NO), or NNOO or 29 NO or 11 ON].
"xxx" means cap what is inside.
Missing marks mean a value is missing.
? means, take that value out of the string.
Spelling errors also mean something. Something is taken out, something is added. What ?
Repeats mean something.
--When he mentions something odd, you notice.
--When he mentions it twice, sit up and pay attention.
Trump's odd word order means something. He is maneuvering certain words into certain positions.
Omissions of logical words, or substitution of an inappropriate word for a normal one, also has meaning.
Omissions of hyphens and other marks has meaning.
The character after the @ sign is capitalized. Sometimes more than one letter or even an entrre word after the @ is intended.
Puns and homonyms are used. "before" may mean B-4 or 2-D.
--When it is repeated three times or more,he is screaming it at you.
Time stamps often have confirming information, but I have a lot of trouble reading them.
Sometimes confirmations are spread over two or three tweets.
A little at a time.
I was like you, vaguely thinking there was something to it. But then I started digging to find out for myself, in after months of vague suspicions.
Ka-BOOM. You start to nibble, you find a few. Then you know.
I can send you some easy ones if you like.
There aren't any textbooks, Trump has his own system.
A lot of them, I cannot figure out.
This sounds like it would definitely be something worth creating a subverse over. I can see getting a group of people to work on it together might be the most effective way to go about it. Have you posted it to 8chan /qresearch/?
You've only got a couple of weeks left. It should be your sub. What with modding v/pizzagate, I don't have time to be an O of another sub. Plus, that would attract shills straight to your work because there are several that stalk my history, which would defeat the purpose of having a separate subverse. Might as well just post in v/GreatAwakening (or v/QRV if you want the anonymity).
Never been on 8chan. Just look at links there selected by Qmap, they seem to be "editors" of material there.
I understand that it's a free-for all but I think of Qmap as an editor and aggregator and selector of 8chan.
I let qmap sort out the wheat from the chaff for me.
As far as a decode forum. I have considered starting a website with decodes as the basis.
I am tired of being hounded and censored on public forums, I have been suppressed on several and
am really pissed.
Trouble is, it's expensive, and Trump could stop sending messages tomorrow.
It would be great to do something here on voat but I cannot start a subverse until I have been here 30 days.
I have over 60 decodes from the last two months, I try to do one or two a day.
I'm like the Marine recruiter...just looking for a few good men. As stated I can give a lot but it should be on a separate subverse, which I cannot start myself because I have only been hgere 8 days. If you or Blacksmith start a subverse on decoding Trump tweets I will give you some GREAT material you will not find anywhere else.
If you start a subverse on decoding Trump tweets, I will explain a lot of it,and we can control who posts and not bother people who don't believe in it.
I cannot start a subverse until I am on voat for 30 days and I have only been here for about a week. But I have a ton of my own original work which I can feed in a little at a time so people can see for themselves.
California now wants to scale back their already failed “fast train” project by substantially shortening the distance so that it no longer goes from L.A. to San Francisco. A different deal and record cost overruns. Send the Federal Government back the Billions of Dollars WASTED!
9:13 AM - Feb 20, 2019
my decode C F A S A T L A S A F 3 8 [A D D ]
Possible meanings
C F = Clinton Foundation
A S = Adam Schiff
ATLAS A F = Atlas Air Fleet
3 8 = 8 3 = Hillary Clinton
[A D D] = Add (command)
I know Trump tweets often have codes involving all the caps and/or missing letters in misspelled words. I don't get the Gematria stuff though. Nor am I clear on the prevalence of it's relevance to Q leaks.
2 Days ago @sallywoofs posted a decode on Reddit which included A T L A S A F and translated as Atlas Air Fleet. An Atlas Air plane just went down hours ago.
The first thing that I thought of was DS FF. Amazon pulled out of NYC and the whole fiasco has cost the Dem party. Hillary used to Represent NY and is most likely pissed.
Ten years ago: Plane crashes. I think that's sad news.
Today: Plane crashes. I think who was on it? Who owns it? Who is it connected to? Does it have remote technology? What was on it? And I hope the plane wizards are on this.
No kidding huh! I spent thirty years in the industry and my Dad was a pilot, I'm so glad he wasn't alive to see 911, commercial planes being used to kill people en-masse! And I'm so glad I was partially oblivious to the real world around me while working for Corporate America, a big part of the problem too!
I also think like you and still wondering to this day what really happened to the Malaysian Airline 777 that supposedly just disappeared. I remember how the Russians said they had tracked it over the ocean passing by India then onto Afghanistan. Not a peep about that in the MSM or any one else in government circles. In the meantime, search and rescue was in the ocean looking in the opposite direction.
The story I read that has the ring of truth is that a patent for remote navigation in planes was developed by an engineering group, and unfortunately all the patent holders but one were tragically killed in a plane crash. The only patent holder that survived was a Rothschild, who was not on the plane.
So, Evergreen was buried, Atlas picked up MIL contract?
Wack conspiracy stuff here: http://joepayne.org/outerbank/evergreen.htm
Chem-trails
Tankers (large cargo cap.)
Drugs/Guns??
Who the hell knows? For sure someone does.
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Sallywuffs ago
The FAA report should be coming out soon, I imagine. The crash was February 23. Coming on two months now.
From the day I saw the crash, I have had the sense something is going to come out of the wreckege.
sallywoofs ago
I do a few decodes a day, like doing a crossword puzzle in a newspaper. Some are easy, some are tough, some you do not solve.
The ATLAS AF is unusual because I got immediate confirmation, so it is of high interest to me.
Blacksmith21 ago
OK....so I solved the crossword last Sunday. THis sunday I used it to clean a window LOL...
sallywoofs ago
Cleaning up after the ATLAS AIR FLEET crash
One of the signals was "A-S", which at first I thought might refer to Adam Schiff. It turns out Amazon was the customer leasing the plane from Atlas. And the division of Amazon is Amazon Air. So hat is the better solution, because "A-S" is 1-19, 1-19 = 1-10 = 1-1 = A A. The A-S is to be read as A-A, Amazon Air.
Also the complete flight number was SY3591. S-Y gematria is 19-25 = 44 or 8. "3591"= 18 or 9. I read OBAMA for 44, and 8; I read 17 =Q for 8+9.
THREE. THREE DEAD. HUMAN REMAINS. TRINITY. ANAHUAC = 49 = 13 =C_A. Atlas Air. Amazon Air. 1-1. A-A. 30 miles from Houston. 30 minutes from landing. Enroute to IAH (=9) scheduled to arrive at 1:17 (=9). But crashed at 12.45 (=1-2 = 3). 3 dead. CIA-E. Flight SY3591 = 44 or 8 = H. Hussein.
Signed...Q.
I believe POTUS crashed the plane.
Overall I take as strengthening the original decode and interpretation.
Blacksmith21 ago
Just like the Poles cracked the Enigma using "past proves future" to break the cipher. The Poles used math, while Turing/Bletchley used linguists+math. I'm definitely far more into the linguistics and semantics side of things than the math portion. I only see the solution after a problem is solved and the appropriate operands are plugged in. You must be hungry for some kielbasa and pierogis about now.
I do not see Q/POTUS splashing an airliner with innocents on it. That got scratched off my list immediately. Q/WH would, however splash a plane with DS air crew, if it contained something which, in the interest of national security, could not be let loose. The options are endless. The rapid descent of the plane looks like a complete failure and decompression or an explosion. The 1st descent took the plane -7,000' starting at near 40k altitude. The fatal descent shortly after, took it from 36,000' to sea level in an uncontrolled descent. That description (to me) sounds like either a catastrophic systems failure (doubtful on a new, reliable plane like a 767-300) or an explosion/interception via A2A missile. The plane was splashed in a location where recovery is more possible than out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico.
sallywoofs ago
Pretty sure white hats took down black ops.
Too much stuff in control of white hats.
Besides all the circumstantial data in the announcement (totally under gov't control) you have the prime fact that ATLAS AF was hidden in Trump's tweet three days before the news. Very suspicious also, no "mayday" from the crew. NTSB and FAA in control now.
IMO Amazon is being cornered. You'd think rogue CIA was fairly well controlled by now...so the operator is Amazon, and you have to be careful going after Bezos. Christ the guy is worth 150 billion and wired in with the CIA. Must be slow and sure.
"3" and "30" and "1-3" keep coming coming up.
Guess how many Boeing 757 300s Amazon has. Or rather, "had" before SY3591 went down.
It is just my intuition. But the repetion of "3" and "three on board" and "no survivors" and "human remains" is a tip-off. It is my hunch is that they are going to find horrific stuff in the wreck that proves Amazon or inside operators are trafficking bodies/parts etc..
Just a long shot speculation, but a lay-up compared to ATLAS AIR FLEET on February 20.
The wreck is not in deep water, but there is no fire.
Blacksmith21 ago
3 is a prime number. It is bound to occur. My question is what is it about Amazon? The best guess I have is the "second layer" of Amazon infrastructure is used for human trafficking and AWS is a data mining operation to glean all things on everyone to target their vices, weaknesses, food supply, etc.
sallywoofs ago
Amazon is really big Deep State. Running CIA cloud. WaPo. Data. The works
Blacksmith21 ago
Yeah, I know all the connections.
sallywoofs ago
"A-S" came up in the tweet early. At first I thought it fingered Adam Schiff. But then the news said that the contractor was Amazon Air.. In gematria "S =19 = 1+9 = 10 =1. 1 = A. So A-A is an equally valid reading for A-S and fits the facts as discovered.
The recurrence of "3" does not refer to Amazon. I think it refers to the "triangle", the cabal. '
sallywoofs ago
OK more questions than answers, let me sum up some observations and my speculations and conclusions.
The crash of Atlas Air Fleet flight 3591 on February 23 confirms a hidden message by Donald Trump made on February 20 by DJT. In that tweet there qwas code that specifically read ATLAS AF. There was also coded references to "CF", "AS", "HC" (3-8) and in the thime stamp, MIAMI.
From the news reports on February 23, we can now guess that "AS" likely refers to Amazon; CF is likely to be Clinton Foundation; and HC is likely to be Hillary CLinton.
The flight origination, Miami, and the announced fatalities, 3, confirm conclusively the tweet message, because MIAMI-3 was coded IN THE TIME STAMP of the tweet on February 20.
It is now also in public that the CIA is a contractor with Atlas. ____________further irregularities and observations: News reports indicate the following: 1. The plane did a "nosedive" into a large, lake-like swamp/marsh area. 2. FAA simply lost contact suddenly, there was no report of mayday signals or distress communications from the pilot. 3. Only three people were reported on board. Their names have not been released. 4. There are various circumstantial connections and symbolic references to CIA, AMAZON, Hillary Clinton, Clinton Foundation, and the Bush family.
Overall it is fair to claim that this event proves conclusively that there was indeed a hidden, coded message in Trump's tweet of February 20, although the full meaning of the tweet message is yet to be understood.
While I made the call on the message on February 20, we are now at the point of speculating and discovering the meaning, and my interpretation is not necessarily better or worse than anyone elses'.But here are my thoughts:
POTUS crashed the plane. This is indicated because he called it out on Feb 20. Also the lack of injuries and the known details of the crash show that great care was taken to make a spectacular event, but not cause great loss of innocent life. In this respect it is similar to the Ketron Island Q400 stunt in Sea-Tack with Richard B. Russell.
Amazon, CIA, HRC and CF are going to come to grief over the incident. I predict that stuff found in the wreckage will be bad news for the bad guys. My guess is that the "human remains" reported discovered, will be in excess of the "three" people reported on board. This will unavoidably trigger investigations.
Because it is a crash the FAA has full authority over the results and we will be kept in the dark. There will be anxiety and fear at the cabal, because they will not know the extent of the findings by the investigators.
** Things we would like to know:**
What was on the plane ?
Who was on the plane ?
Who were the recipients going to be for the cargo ?
Why did Amazon use ATLAS for transporting freight, instead of a normal commercial carrier or contractor ? Why do they need a specialist in CIA and covert operations, to transport normal consumer merchandise ? Doesn't it strike anyone else as strange that a CIA contractor is needed to ship skirts and shoes and flip flops from Miami to Houston ?
What the hell was flight 3591 really doing ??
Blacksmith21 ago
Question 1: Who is pilot Sean Archuleta? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6739049/Pictured-Pilot-killed-Atlas-Air-cargo-jet-crash-operating-Amazon-Prime-Air.html
Question 2: Who were the other pilots?
Rather than create a new sub, I can make a standalone post for you, if you want to PM it to me. Also, I think you'd get a lot more eyeballs on v/GA vs a new QAnon decode sub. Also, showing the basic "math" (show your work!) on the Gematria would be a great help for many of us.
@vindicator @molochhunter
sallywoofs ago
I'm pretty primitive, how do I send you a PM on voat ?
I can send my analysis done today on the "Salute To America" July 4th tweet.
sallywoofs ago
Hi Blacksmith, vindicator et al:
I am quite willing to show the work, but I think it needs to be on a suitable platform. I do not want to waste time arguing about whether the messages are there of not; I want to talk to like-minded individuals who may have better interpretations and decodes than I do, so we can all learn from each other.
The trouble is that there are at least three levels of discussion.
First there is the literal tweet. First the tweets that have messages must be identified. Sometimes, but not always by any means, the literal tweet has clues and a relationship to the coded message, though it is more common for the subject to be completely different from the visible content.
Second there is the cryptography and operation to transform the tweet elements in the coded message. This is also a subject for discussion and analysis, and is really critical to "getting the message." And there are often multiple meanings.
Third, there is the meaning of the cryptographic elements. I saw ATLAS AF, but did not know why or how ATLAS AIR FLEET was having attention called to it. We are still looking and waiting for the answers on how CF, AS, and 8-3 (Hillary?) fit in; and in one day we got great leads that indicate AMAZON may be intended instead of Adam Schiff, who was my first guess for "A_S".
Fourth, there is the discussion and analyis of what the message MEANS, what is the reality hinted at. Even when we are 100% certain that ATLAS AIR FLEET is the subject, we do not know why and in what way they are involved in current events. So the "reality" identified in the decode is a whole 'nother topic.
Fifth, there is "disinformation" in the tweets, as well as confirmations. I took a lot of grief on Obama and RBG tweet decodes, because the tweet codes suggested strongly they were dead, but subsequent evidence cast grave doubts about this, and gave me egg on face. But I know my decodes were solid.
So like I say I am willing to share but on a general thread there will be a lot of people who will not understand the proofs even when I present them. We kind of need a "decoders" thread and forum, to discuss how to recognize and translate the code clues into recognizeable form.
sallywoofs ago
How many humans ? Doesn't say. Only three people were on board. Of course the number of former humans represented by the remains, may be in number larger than three. But it doesn't say, does it ?
Sandy Kenyon reports live from Hollywood. Saturday, February 23, 2019 06:14PM ANAHUAC, Texas (KTRK) -- Human remains have been found by investigators after a Boeing 767 nose-dived into the Trinity Bay in Chambers County Saturday.
sallywoofs ago
Also I meant to add before getting distracted by the SSN 687 Richard B. Russell, that my guess is that really bad stuff will be found in the wreckage of the Texas Atlas Air crash.
I suspect it will be enough to convict the CIA, Amazon,and CF and other related parties in the very worst kind of criminal horror.
It strikes me as odd that such an incident occurs to a flight and only 3 unnamed individuals are on board. I realize this is natural for a cargo plane, it barely deserves a second thought or notice.
But just suppose that the human remains of MORE THAN THREE individuals are discovered in the wreckage. What if the body parts of MORE THAN THREE human beings are discovered in the debris of Flight 3591 ?
What conclusions would you draw then ?
sallywoofs ago
We will find out more as time goes by, but I am worried that the FAA will keep things pretty tight for a while...we still don't have details from the Ketron Island Q400 crash with the Richard B. Russell.
In passing I note here that it was, and is, my opinion that the unauthorized missile launch at Whidbey Island, WA on June 10 in Pugent Sound was from a rogue CIA nuclear submarine that was converted from the SSN 687, the Richard B. Russell, at the Bremerton Navy Yard in Pugent Sound.
1scm ago
Wonder what cargo was worth the death of 3 crew.
sallywoofs ago
That's my main reason for not being sure Trump arranged the crash. I don't think he would have done something intentionally killing three innocent people. So I am more inclined to think the operators were bad guys...CIA-E. CIA operatives-E'd.
1scm ago
You are pointing out the key scenarios including the drone (remote controlled flight). I believe there are only 3 options. First, a true crash. Second, a deep state crash to destroy cargo (most likely remote controlled). Third, a Military Intelligence op, to prevent the plane from continuing it's path (also remote controlled). I believe in the second option with the crash remote controlled. Maybe we find out soon. I hope so.
sallywoofs ago
Second and third are possible, first is totally out because of advance message by POTUS. We differ on our guess. I think the third possibility is far more likely than the second. Deep State has lost control of the investigation of the crash remains, which are not out in the ocean but in a swamp thirty miles from the destination. This cannot be to their liking.
sallywoofs ago
Possible the crew were bad guys. Also possible the plane was a drone. the reports are making too many repeats of "3" and "13". Trinity Bay...30 miles...30 minutes...3 crew members...Anahuac...etc etc
Nachose ago
I live nearby. Flat, flat landscape. No weather to speak of today. News says it "Nose-dived" into the bay.
sallywoofs ago
Why would a Boeing 767 suddenly nose dive into a lake ?
sallywoofs ago
Q has indicated that the majority of plane crashes are criminal acts enabled by various techniques and technologies in the sabotage of electronics, avionics, or insertion of rogue navigation programs. The pilots loose control of the plane, they often become remote controlled drones, in effect.
In the Atlas Air Fleet, we have more questions than answers. First, we have no idea what the purpose or mission was of the flight.
Second, we do not know who "arranged" for the creash...it is even possible that POTUS was responsible, since there was a clear advance call out of ATLAS AIR several days before. In other words POTUS may have been aware of an evil mission by the Cabal, and decided to really spank them by crashing the plane himself. How would I know ?
But one thing is for sure. POTUS called out ATLAS AF in a coded message on February 20, and on February 23 CBS reported an ATLAS AIR crash on a flight from Florida to Texas.
In passing, I did not make a call on the time stamp; there were two "reads" but I did not feel confident presenting either. I have trouble with the time stamps.
But one read involved Florida (MIAMI) and the other, Iranian cash drops. So the MIAMI read looks to be confirmed since the plane was en route from Miami to Houston.
Blacksmith21 ago
I'm skimming for the early reports before they get buried. That's usually where the details are.
You definitely made the decode. Pretty amazing work by you! There are a 100 reasons and circumstances of the plane going down. The provenance alone is pretty damning.
o3i4htoih34 ago
Is it a message that you can hide your money but if you can fall out the sky at someone's order he may not be around to even spend it. A warning to show him money doesn't stop certain things he may be trying to avoid.
The divorce some have said is a way for him to hide all of his money to prevent it from being taken through E.O.
sallywoofs ago
Yes I think it is a message to Bezos, among other things
sallywoofs ago
With Amazon coming into the picture maybe I missed something and the "A-S" may refer to Amazon Web Services. Can't say. But it's looking like "3-8" does mean Hillary Clinton (8-3 = H-C)
Blacksmith21 ago
AWS holds the CIA cloud contract. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire infrastructure of Amazon had a "shadow layer" which was used for human trafficking logistics.
sallywoofs ago
My instincts on the "A=S" may be wrong. Thought it was Adam Schiff but more likely Maybe its Amazon Web Services...might have missed a "W" signal. Amazon makes more sense now given the news.
Blacksmith21 ago
https://abc13.com/air-jet-involved-in-crash-was-leased-by-amazon/5153229/
Blacksmith21 ago
@Srayzie - You should look at this too. Interesting stuff, especially the comments.
srayzie ago
Thanks! I’ll check it out
sallywoofs ago
Trump decode feb 20 said
CF AS ATLAS AF HC
So there is more to come
Blacksmith21 ago
DO you have a link. I'm not the best at digging up old Tweets.
sallywoofs ago
Are you at all familiar with gematria ?
Blacksmith21 ago
Only on a superficial level. I like to plug random things in the Gematrinator. All the other kids laugh at me though when I talk about it.
sallywoofs ago
Let them laugh. One person in one hundred pays attention...maybe less.
Oh...check the date of the crash. February 23. 2-23. 2-2-3
sallywoofs ago
Blacksmith...I've got about 50 decodes like that. Some unbelievable shit. Some appear to be disinformation...I got a boatload of abuse over tweet decodes that indicated Obama and RBG were dead. Oh well...sometimes you have to take one for the team, you know what I mean ?
Vindicator ago
I'd be interested in understanding exactly how this works, sallywoofs, as would @Blacksmith21. I get that trolls will troll you for it, but you called your home run like Babe Ruth, here so it bears looking into.
sallywoofs ago
Here are the basics. There is no "exactly how it works". All the communications have deniability. Context is important. The system Trump uses is unique and is designed to avoid normal cryptographic analysis.
Letters A-Z have numbers corresponding to them, 1-26 Letters to be looked at in gematria have caps Uncapitalized letters can also have meaning, but not in gematric calculations and operations In gematria, the order of the numbers is flexible as is the transformation back and forth from numbers to letters. (example: "14" can be read as 1-4, 4-1, 1+4 = 5, or A-D, D-A, E, 14, or 41)
Punctuation has meaning. "!" means "double value" of gematria. [So "NO!" can be read as (14-15 NO), or (NO NO), or NNOO or 29 NO or 11 ON]. "xxx" means cap what is inside. Missing marks mean a value is missing. ? means, take that value out of the string. Spelling errors also mean something. Something is taken out, something is added. What ? Repeats mean something. --When he mentions something odd, you notice. --When he mentions it twice, sit up and pay attention. Trump's odd word order means something. He is maneuvering certain words into certain positions. Omissions of logical words, or substitution of an inappropriate word for a normal one, also has meaning. Omissions of hyphens and other marks has meaning. The character after the @ sign is capitalized. Sometimes more than one letter or even an entrre word after the @ is intended. Puns and homonyms are used. "before" may mean B-4 or 2-D.
--When it is repeated three times or more,he is screaming it at you.
Time stamps often have confirming information, but I have a lot of trouble reading them. Sometimes confirmations are spread over two or three tweets.
Vindicator ago
I've noticed some of this (the word-number correllations, the add/subtract "think mirror" stuff, though it's not something I've followed very closely.
I'm looking forward to you making a subverse on this and posting your interpretations of the tweets.
How did you figure all this out, if I may ask?
sallywoofs ago
A little at a time. I was like you, vaguely thinking there was something to it. But then I started digging to find out for myself, in after months of vague suspicions. Ka-BOOM. You start to nibble, you find a few. Then you know.
I can send you some easy ones if you like. There aren't any textbooks, Trump has his own system. A lot of them, I cannot figure out.
Vindicator ago
This sounds like it would definitely be something worth creating a subverse over. I can see getting a group of people to work on it together might be the most effective way to go about it. Have you posted it to 8chan /qresearch/?
sallywoofs ago
Start one, I cannot until I have been here 30 days.
I have plenty of material to analyze. Over 60 decodes. Some of them are unbelieveable.
Vindicator ago
You've only got a couple of weeks left. It should be your sub. What with modding v/pizzagate, I don't have time to be an O of another sub. Plus, that would attract shills straight to your work because there are several that stalk my history, which would defeat the purpose of having a separate subverse. Might as well just post in v/GreatAwakening (or v/QRV if you want the anonymity).
sallywoofs ago
Never been on 8chan. Just look at links there selected by Qmap, they seem to be "editors" of material there. I understand that it's a free-for all but I think of Qmap as an editor and aggregator and selector of 8chan. I let qmap sort out the wheat from the chaff for me.
As far as a decode forum. I have considered starting a website with decodes as the basis. I am tired of being hounded and censored on public forums, I have been suppressed on several and am really pissed.
Trouble is, it's expensive, and Trump could stop sending messages tomorrow. It would be great to do something here on voat but I cannot start a subverse until I have been here 30 days.
I have over 60 decodes from the last two months, I try to do one or two a day.
sallywoofs ago
Start the subverse and I will populate it with good decodes.
I cannot start one, I have only been here a few days.
Vindicator ago
You'll soon be able to. When you do, please ping me. I find this very interesting!
sallywoofs ago
I'm like the Marine recruiter...just looking for a few good men. As stated I can give a lot but it should be on a separate subverse, which I cannot start myself because I have only been hgere 8 days. If you or Blacksmith start a subverse on decoding Trump tweets I will give you some GREAT material you will not find anywhere else.
DawnPendraig ago
When they make one let me know. I want to learn also. Thanks!
sallywoofs ago
"They" could be YOU.
Anyone who has been here 30 days can start a subverse...I cannot because I've been here less than two weeks.
sallywoofs ago
If you start a subverse on decoding Trump tweets, I will explain a lot of it,and we can control who posts and not bother people who don't believe in it.
I cannot start a subverse until I am on voat for 30 days and I have only been here for about a week. But I have a ton of my own original work which I can feed in a little at a time so people can see for themselves.
sallywoofs ago
I copied the original tweet in a post here. If you want to look at old Trump tweets, I find qmap.pub format easy to browse. But here is it again:
r/Trumptweetsdecoded u/katzendog 2 days ago Atlas AF (Atlas Air Fleet) in Trump tweet decode
California now wants to scale back their already failed “fast train” project by substantially shortening the distance so that it no longer goes from L.A. to San Francisco. A different deal and record cost overruns. Send the Federal Government back the Billions of Dollars WASTED! 9:13 AM - Feb 20, 2019
my decode C F A S A T L A S A F 3 8 [A D D ]
Possible meanings C F = Clinton Foundation A S = Adam Schiff ATLAS A F = Atlas Air Fleet 3 8 = 8 3 = Hillary Clinton [A D D] = Add (command)
Blacksmith21 ago
Holy shit. @vindicator @molochhunter
Thank you for explaining it. I'm not trying to be obtuse, I didn't catch that you were using Gematria to decode. 2 days ago. No coincidences: https://np.reddit.com/r/Trumptweetsdecoded/comments/at6avp/atlas_af_atlas_air_fleet_in_trump_tweet_decode/?st=jsi6jqhi&sh=ff4fe41a
sallywoofs ago
I get 100 "You are full of shits" to every one "Holy Shit!"
Vindicator ago
I know Trump tweets often have codes involving all the caps and/or missing letters in misspelled words. I don't get the Gematria stuff though. Nor am I clear on the prevalence of it's relevance to Q leaks.
Interesting, though!
Blacksmith21 ago
2 Days ago @sallywoofs posted a decode on Reddit which included A T L A S A F and translated as Atlas Air Fleet. An Atlas Air plane just went down hours ago.
Vindicator ago
Ah...so the the decode happened before the plane went down, eh? That IS interesting!
sallywoofs ago
Confirms coded message in tweet of February 20. Also "Evergreen" is code for HRC.
The Trump tweet on February 20 about thw California train had a coded message in it:
CF AS ATLAS AF HC
Blacksmith21 ago
Got a citation for that statement?
sallywoofs ago
The decode was published on February 20 on reddit.
Proves Trump has code in his tweets. ATLAS AF was in the tweet on February 20, the tweet on the surface was about the California rail project.
Still to come, the relation of CF, HC and AS.
singlebrain1 ago
The first thing that I thought of was DS FF. Amazon pulled out of NYC and the whole fiasco has cost the Dem party. Hillary used to Represent NY and is most likely pissed.
allonthesameteam ago
Ten years ago: Plane crashes. I think that's sad news. Today: Plane crashes. I think who was on it? Who owns it? Who is it connected to? Does it have remote technology? What was on it? And I hope the plane wizards are on this.
Billeee ago
No kidding huh! I spent thirty years in the industry and my Dad was a pilot, I'm so glad he wasn't alive to see 911, commercial planes being used to kill people en-masse! And I'm so glad I was partially oblivious to the real world around me while working for Corporate America, a big part of the problem too!
JohnQ-Arkenstone ago
I also think like you and still wondering to this day what really happened to the Malaysian Airline 777 that supposedly just disappeared. I remember how the Russians said they had tracked it over the ocean passing by India then onto Afghanistan. Not a peep about that in the MSM or any one else in government circles. In the meantime, search and rescue was in the ocean looking in the opposite direction.
satisfyinghump ago
The biggest mind opening crash was that ane crash 8 or so years ago in Russia with the Polish politicians on board. All dead.
sallywoofs ago
There's been a lot of them. Looks like it was a favorite technique of several criminal gangs. Clintons used planes a lot to kill people.
allonthesameteam ago
Check out this one. First link is from Snopes calling it false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/patent-pending/ And this. https://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inherits-a-semiconductor-patent-for-freescale-semiconductors/
Definitely a theory, but more believable as time passes.
sallywoofs ago
The story I read that has the ring of truth is that a patent for remote navigation in planes was developed by an engineering group, and unfortunately all the patent holders but one were tragically killed in a plane crash. The only patent holder that survived was a Rothschild, who was not on the plane.
Ponycam ago
sounds familiar. wasn't jfk jr's flight in final stages when it went down?
rumbline ago
So, Evergreen was buried, Atlas picked up MIL contract? Wack conspiracy stuff here: http://joepayne.org/outerbank/evergreen.htm Chem-trails Tankers (large cargo cap.) Drugs/Guns?? Who the hell knows? For sure someone does.
Blacksmith21 ago
The only firefighting 747 and it's owned by Evergreen.
Steinmacher ago
being a planefag... article says B767 went down, show pic of B747...
needlesdog ago
Read the caption below picture
Steinmacher ago
the caption made me laugh too... this isn't the plane involved in the crash. Thank you Mr Obvious.
Blacksmith21 ago
I've seen stupidity asking if Bezos was on it. Or, if Bezos was part of the FL massage parlor raid.
Blacksmith21 ago
I caught that too. Article says twin engine. They pulled a "stock" or search photo. Maybe something from the Atlas' press kit.
Steinmacher ago
probably, lazy reporters/editors. happens all the time. just a pet peeve of mine.
JohnQ-Arkenstone ago
I agree with you too. Lazy, click, copy, paste fake journalists.
Blacksmith21 ago
I agree, as well. It discredits the reporting out of the gate. Alternate source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/cargo-plane-carrying-at-least-3-people-crashes-in-texas-bay-officials-say
subslr ago
Wasn't "Evergreen" Hilliary's USSS code name?
sallywoofs ago
yes
Blacksmith21 ago
I think it was.
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/mena-arkansas-727.451838/
TurquoiseLover ago
Yup
TurquoiseLover ago
George Webb - Evergreen Aviation's Last Air America Drugs For Guns 747 Comes Into National Harbor
derram ago
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